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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24142 Posts
June 07 2016 19:52 GMT
#79401
On June 08 2016 04:37 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 03:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
For those who may not be able to see, it says :

secret-win-V2-060416

So that was the second version of the "secret win" announcement graphic from the AP, 2 days before they made the announcement.

Does that count as evidence Kwiz?

Evidence of what? That she expected to win, and that the AP expected her victory? SHOCKING!


That the media and Hillary's camp were coordinating her victory announcement days before they even had the information they substantiate their announcement with. That they intentionally gave her camp a heads up that they were going to drop this right before primary day and that Bernie wouldn't know until everyone else did.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 07 2016 19:53 GMT
#79402
On June 08 2016 04:50 SK.Testie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:48 zlefin wrote:
Testie, you realize you're still not really proving anything of note, right? and showing me the picture of that other link still doesn't really show much of anything of note. you're still focusing too much on the conclusion you've already arrived at, rather than considering the many possibilities and letting the evidence lead you where it does.


Damnit Zlefin, the new Benghazi commission is going to take time. I'll see if there's something there and report back to you in 6 months.

they're wasting money on a new benghazi commission? that sounds like a pointless waste of money (other than for political theater of course; but even as theater its not that good; off off broadway makes better theater)
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22474 Posts
June 07 2016 19:56 GMT
#79403
On June 08 2016 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:37 kwizach wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
For those who may not be able to see, it says :

secret-win-V2-060416

So that was the second version of the "secret win" announcement graphic from the AP, 2 days before they made the announcement.

Does that count as evidence Kwiz?

Evidence of what? That she expected to win, and that the AP expected her victory? SHOCKING!


That the media and Hillary's camp were coordinating her victory announcement days before they even had the information they substantiate their announcement with. That they intentionally gave her camp a heads up that they were going to drop this right before primary day and that Bernie wouldn't know until everyone else did.

And as has been explained to you several times, the announcement that Hillary won is worse for her then it is for Bernie when it comes to today's results.
so... yeah, why do you think they did this conspiracy then?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 07 2016 19:57 GMT
#79404
Was there anything interesting in the Obituary files? did they get a look at those? (not following discussion in its entirety, assuming that whatever GH is sourcing from might've gotten to see the obit files too)
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
June 07 2016 20:03 GMT
#79405
GH is too buried in his own narrative to see things objectively. There is even an article on Politico right now about how the Clinton campaign is disappointed with AP spoiling it for her.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
June 07 2016 20:04 GMT
#79406
On June 08 2016 04:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


LMAO

"The real debates", meaning the least relevant people in this election. God 3rd party shitheads are so detestably self-important. Watch the green party debate. It's a fucking embarrassment. These aren't people who are forcefully ejected from oligarchy. They are just loons.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 07 2016 20:12 GMT
#79407
On June 08 2016 05:04 Mohdoo wrote:
They are just loons.


Lies.
[image loading]

Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Surth
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Germany456 Posts
June 07 2016 20:13 GMT
#79408
On June 08 2016 05:04 Mohdoo wrote:
These aren't people who are forcefully ejected from oligarchy. They are just loons.

They can be both
i believe your actions dishonour Starcraft 2 LotV cybersport!
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 07 2016 20:26 GMT
#79409
Who do we think VP choices will be?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 07 2016 20:28 GMT
#79410
On June 08 2016 05:04 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/740242805809778688


LMAO

"The real debates", meaning the least relevant people in this election. God 3rd party shitheads are so detestably self-important. Watch the green party debate. It's a fucking embarrassment. These aren't people who are forcefully ejected from oligarchy. They are just loons.


Like Bernie trying so hard to debate Trump when he's not even the nominee? lol
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 20:29:52
June 07 2016 20:29 GMT
#79411
On June 08 2016 04:02 SK.Testie wrote:
Bad La Raza! Bad! Again!

MSM: They have no connection!
oh shit. They do but surely it's meaningless!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Trump's argument is not concerned with La Raza (even if his surrogates or spokeswoman brought up La Raza after the fact - "only Trump speaks for Trump", as he says). His argument is very simple, the judge is Mexican and therefore biased against Trump. Which I guess is an admission that Mexican voters will be, too.

On the plus side, if it weren't for Testie this thread would probably have about 1,000 less pages. It's all about that mischievous fun though .
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 20:36:55
June 07 2016 20:35 GMT
#79412
On June 08 2016 05:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 05:04 Mohdoo wrote:
On June 08 2016 04:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StealthBlue/status/740242805809778688


LMAO

"The real debates", meaning the least relevant people in this election. God 3rd party shitheads are so detestably self-important. Watch the green party debate. It's a fucking embarrassment. These aren't people who are forcefully ejected from oligarchy. They are just loons.


Like Bernie trying so hard to debate Trump when he's not even the nominee? lol


Yes, exactly like that. It's ok, him and Shaun King will help overthrow white corporate media oligarchy, one tweet at a time.
On June 08 2016 05:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:02 SK.Testie wrote:
Bad La Raza! Bad! Again!

MSM: They have no connection!
oh shit. They do but surely it's meaningless!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Trump's argument is not concerned with La Raza (even if his surrogates or spokeswoman brought up La Raza after the fact - "only Trump speaks for Trump", as he says). His argument is very simple, the judge is Mexican and therefore biased against Trump. Which I guess is an admission that Mexican voters will be, too.

On the plus side, if it weren't for Testie this thread would probably have about 1,000 less pages. It's all about that mischievous fun though .


With Merkel being on her way out, and with way less Mexicans, maybe Trump could help make Germany great again?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 20:36:47
June 07 2016 20:36 GMT
#79413
double oops
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
June 07 2016 20:36 GMT
#79414
On June 08 2016 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:37 kwizach wrote:
On June 08 2016 03:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
For those who may not be able to see, it says :

secret-win-V2-060416

So that was the second version of the "secret win" announcement graphic from the AP, 2 days before they made the announcement.

Does that count as evidence Kwiz?

Evidence of what? That she expected to win, and that the AP expected her victory? SHOCKING!


That the media and Hillary's camp were coordinating her victory announcement days before they even had the information they substantiate their announcement with. That they intentionally gave her camp a heads up that they were going to drop this right before primary day and that Bernie wouldn't know until everyone else did.

Everyone involved knew she was going to win on Tuesday at the latest. For all you know, someone at her campaign could simply have contacted the AP and asked "hey, do you guys already have a graph ready for Tuesday?", "yeah", "do you mind sending it to us so we can react once you make the announcement?" "sure, here you go", "thanks". But no, it must have been a huge conspiracy between Hillary Clinton and "ze media", even though her campaign would have preferred for the AP to not call the race before Tuesday evening. Snore.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
josephmcjoe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States57 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-07 20:49:10
June 07 2016 20:47 GMT
#79415
oops, double post
"This guy is the Bob Ross of adept shading: a little shade here, a little shade there." -Lambo
josephmcjoe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States57 Posts
June 07 2016 20:47 GMT
#79416
On June 08 2016 05:29 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 04:02 SK.Testie wrote:
Bad La Raza! Bad! Again!

MSM: They have no connection!
oh shit. They do but surely it's meaningless!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Trump's argument is not concerned with La Raza (even if his surrogates or spokeswoman brought up La Raza after the fact - "only Trump speaks for Trump", as he says). His argument is very simple, the judge is Mexican and therefore biased against Trump. Which I guess is an admission that Mexican voters will be, too.

On the plus side, if it weren't for Testie this thread would probably have about 1,000 less pages. It's all about that mischievous fun though .


I too think it's pretty simple, but not even close to your take. The judge belongs to group called the Hispanic National Bar Association that called for a national boycott of Trump's various enterprises in 2015. Trump didn't feel he could get a fair shake from this judge, and he said so.
"This guy is the Bob Ross of adept shading: a little shade here, a little shade there." -Lambo
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 07 2016 20:48 GMT
#79417
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Defeats_Truman

The most notable example of art, headlines and stories being prepared in advance. Celebrity obituaries too. The 6/4/2016 means someone worked on Saturday.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22474 Posts
June 07 2016 20:59 GMT
#79418
On June 08 2016 05:47 josephmcjoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 05:29 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 08 2016 04:02 SK.Testie wrote:
Bad La Raza! Bad! Again!

MSM: They have no connection!
oh shit. They do but surely it's meaningless!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Trump's argument is not concerned with La Raza (even if his surrogates or spokeswoman brought up La Raza after the fact - "only Trump speaks for Trump", as he says). His argument is very simple, the judge is Mexican and therefore biased against Trump. Which I guess is an admission that Mexican voters will be, too.

On the plus side, if it weren't for Testie this thread would probably have about 1,000 less pages. It's all about that mischievous fun though .


I too think it's pretty simple, but not even close to your take. The judge belongs to group called the Hispanic National Bar Association that called for a national boycott of Trump's various enterprises in 2015. Trump didn't feel he could get a fair shake from this judge, and he said so.

If this is so clear, why have Trumps laywers not asked for a different judge? Would be a slam dunk.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 07 2016 21:06 GMT
#79419
On June 08 2016 05:47 josephmcjoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 05:29 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 08 2016 04:02 SK.Testie wrote:
Bad La Raza! Bad! Again!

MSM: They have no connection!
oh shit. They do but surely it's meaningless!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Trump's argument is not concerned with La Raza (even if his surrogates or spokeswoman brought up La Raza after the fact - "only Trump speaks for Trump", as he says). His argument is very simple, the judge is Mexican and therefore biased against Trump. Which I guess is an admission that Mexican voters will be, too.

On the plus side, if it weren't for Testie this thread would probably have about 1,000 less pages. It's all about that mischievous fun though .


I too think it's pretty simple, but not even close to your take. The judge belongs to group called the Hispanic National Bar Association that called for a national boycott of Trump's various enterprises in 2015. Trump didn't feel he could get a fair shake from this judge, and he said so.


Trump's own stated reasoning does not involve any groups the judge belongs to. His stated reasoning is actually that the judge is Mexican, and therefore biased due to Trump's wall plan. That's it, it's straight from Trump's mouth.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8146 Posts
June 07 2016 21:12 GMT
#79420
I find kind of amusing the disarray of the republican leaders, who see years of effort to try to win minorities vote and promote against all evidences the idea that the GOP is not a fundamentally racist party of resentful white men.. Not only are they going to get steamrolled, but they are losing years and years of hard work.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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