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Deleted User 137586
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On March 10 2016 11:37 Stratos_speAr wrote: I think Clinton wants to pull the wool over everyone's eyes by making them think she's saying "Yes" while technically saying "No". I think you weren't listening to the 4-5 "yes but not asylum seekers" answers. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On March 10 2016 11:39 Ghanburighan wrote: I think you weren't listening to the 4-5 "yes but not asylum seekers" answers. It basically highlights what I meant where I said her answer has too much nuance so people will just automatically distrust it despite the fact the world usually does not have simple yes or no answers. | ||
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L_Master
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On March 10 2016 11:20 Sbrubbles wrote: It's very conceivable that many people will transition to the first list from the second. Whether that will mean the end of jobs and beggining of the haves/have not dystopia or whether the population will simply get used to using more and better services is little more than wild speculation. Once machines can do everything, everyone will be a have. No need for money when machines can take care of all tasks required. Transition period could certainly get rough though. I have my doubts that there will ever be anywhere near enough service jobs when you factor out everything that machines can do. Of course, true AI realistically means there won't even be service jobs because machines can do that too. I guess what surprises me is the beginnings of this en force are probably just 10-15 years away, maybe less, and near completion very possible within this century, or even faster, given the exponential growth of technology. On March 10 2016 11:08 Belisarius wrote: Top 20 least likely to be automated: + Show Spoiler + 1. Recreational therapists 2. First-line supervisors of mechanics, installers and repairers 3. Emergency management directors 4. Mental health and substance abuse social workers 5. Audiologists 6. Occupational therapists 7. Orthotists and prosthetists 8. Healthcare social workers 9. Oral and maxillofacial surgeons 10. First-line supervisors of fire-fighting and prevention workers 11. Dietiticians and nutritionists 12. Lodging managers 13. Choreographers 14. Sales engineers 15. Physicians and surgeons 16. Instructional coordinators 17. Psychologists 18. First-line supervisors of police and detectives 19. Dentists (general) 20. Elementary school teachers (except special education) I'd disagree with some of these. I'd also note that most of them are either highly skilled or just general higher level jobs that compromise a relatively small swath of all jobs. Physicians and surgeons can be pretty easily automated with future technology. Better ability to scan and obtain information about the composition of the body combined with the absolutely exploding genomics and biotech advances mean that diagnosis will become quite simple and precise. Clearly surgery is nothing complicated from an automation standpoint, and with better input even complex surgeries like oral ones will be trivial work for a machine. Dentist probably the same issue. Better scanning, understanding, and pattern recognition algorithms will make diagnosis a fairly simple machine endeavor. Same goes for dietician/nutiritionists. Won't be that long before we can do scans taking a look at chemical combination of the body, gut microbota, genetics, etc. and offer detailed personalized diet recommendations tailored to each individual. Supervisors of mechanics/repairers/installers won't even be necessary as the machines will just do the work and won't really need much supervision, and eventually will perfectly self supervise. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
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Souma
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Three American zoos have pulled off an audacious clandestine operation to fly a group of elephants out of Swaziland despite a legal challenge to block the transfer, enraging conservationists who claim that removing elephants from the wild for display in zoos is cruel and outdated. The 18 elephants – three males and 15 females ranging in age from six to 25 – were sedated, loaded onto crates and placed on a large cargo plane that arrived in Swaziland at around 7.30am local time on Tuesday. Pictures taken at the scene show several large crates, ostensibly for elephants, being picked up by a crane and placed onto trucks. The elephants will be split among three zoos – the Dallas zoo, Sedgwick County zoo in Kansas and Henry Doorly zoo in Nebraska – where they will be put on exhibit and used for breeding purposes. The unannounced move, which was previously scheduled for May, has stunned an animal welfare group that was due to argue against the transfer in a US federal court on 17 March. The group, Friends of Animals, has now admitted defeat in its bid to prevent what it calls the “stolen 18” from being taken from the wild and placed into zoos. Friends of Animals filed for an emergency injunction to stop the transfer, argued via a frantic teleconference with US federal court judge John Bates. Bates’s ruling notes that the short timeframe meant he was “not able to definitively resolve the issue”. But he sided with the zoos, which pointed out that the elephants had already been drugged and that leaving them in the small African nation would have put them at risk. Source | ||
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Stratos_speAr
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Oh jeez. Ranks up there with "I'm the ultimate outsider". | ||
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Introvert
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farvacola
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On March 10 2016 11:44 Stratos_speAr wrote: Claims that automating the physician's job is easy tend to rest on pretty fundamental misunderstandings of 1) a physician's job and 2) how things are actually diagnosed. I'm more open to the idea that surgery/dentistry can be automated, but I'm still skeptical. These claims often rely on an over-indulging faith in math and technology. Was gonna post about the same thing. Diagnostics are not what people think think they are lol. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Question to Bernie: Why does Hillary suck? ugh | ||
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oBlade
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On March 10 2016 11:54 PhoenixVoid wrote: Not a good idea to admit you're not a natural politician. "I'm nothing like our current president, also a Democrat, or my husband, the most popular president in recent memory." | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On March 10 2016 11:55 farvacola wrote: Was gonna post about the same thing. Diagnostics are not what people think think they are lol. Diagnostics isn't a math equation. People have a grossly simplified understanding of health and the human body in general. | ||
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