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It's possible he could be doing worse without the ads?
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And people wonder why TV networks love the political season. Look at that, its like 1/3 of a super bowl without the NFL taking it cut. What is not to love? How could this possibly be bad for coverage? How could this not be bad in every way?
Just remember, money is free speech, expect its not really free and its ruining politics/elections.
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Millions of public school students will soon have their personal information and school records handed over to a nonprofit community organization. The Concerned Parents Association fought for the data in federal district court and won over the objections of the California Department of Education. The nonprofit said it needs the information to see if California schools are violating the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act and other related laws. The database it will have access to includes all information on children, kindergarten through high school, who are attending or have attended a California school at any time since Jan. 1, 2008. The database contain students' names, social security numbers, home addresses, course information, behavior and discipline information, progress reports, mental health and medical information, along with suspensions, expulsions and more. That doesn't sit well with privacy groups. Beth Givens with Privacy Rights Clearinghouse said it's "shocking that the court would release this sort of information." Eva Velasquez with the Identity Theft Resource Center agreed. "A lot of that information could be used to commit identity theft if it gets into the wrong hands," she said. The attorney for the Concerned Parents Association, Rony Sagy, told NBC 7 the information will only be accessible to a handful of people and will have a "Special Master" who will certify that security measures are followed. "The issue isn't why they want it," said Velasquez. "The issue is that it creates vulnerabilities and access points." Students and parents can opt-out of the list by following detailed instructions from the district court. However there appears to be very little being done on the state or local level to inform parents of the disclosure. To find out more about the court case and how to opt-out, visit the ID Theft Center's website at this URL: http://www.idtheftcenter.org/alertcaparents.html. The form, which you can find here, must be submitted by April 1. Source: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california/Calif-Student-Information-Released-to-Non-Profit-368556881.html
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On February 16 2016 12:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +Advocacy group Environment America has "crunched the numbers" in an effort to reveal who the largest polluters of American waterways are. The culprits that crack the top-15 list may very well surprise you.
If you ask people on the street who America's biggest water polluter is, for many, oil Goliaths like Exxon or Chevron might be first to come to mind - but not by a long shot would either of those be the correct answer.
AK Steel Holding Corp took the slimy grimy first-place prize, with transnational mega meat marketer Tyson Foods coming in a very close second. Two oil companies, Phillips 66 and ExxonMobil, did make the top-15 - but only in 13th and 15th places respectively.
Interestingly, nearly half the entities on the list were food and meat producers, but it's the third-place finisher that's been raising some eyebrows as well.
According to the analysis, the US government, and specifically the Department of Defense (DOD), is the third largest water polluter in America, having dumped some 63,335,653 pounds of poison into waterways from 2010-2014.
The data was compiled using numbers from the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Toxic Release Inventory (TRI) program. According to EPA's website, "TRI tracks the management of certain toxic chemicals that may pose a threat to human health and the environment. US facilities in different industry sectors must report annually how much of each chemical is released to the environment."
Amongst the many potentially deadly substances released by DOD are chemicals, rocket fuel and toxic sewage - but it's the carcinogenic and mutagenic radioactive isotopes let loose by its nuclear munition plants that make DOD's emissions exceptionally dangerous. The Department's myriad facilities, dedicated steadfastly to perpetuating ongoing participation in the nuclear bomb game, have been leaking and leeching lethal radiation from the dawn of the nuclear age, to the present day.
In other words, the very Defense Department that is supposed to be protecting American citizens from mortal threats, is, in and of itself, one of the deadliest threats Americans face - not from bombs or guns, but from millions of pounds of pollution, perpetrated on the country's unsuspecting population every year, by way of the Pentagon itself. Source
Anyone familiar with pollution knows that military bases are pretty gigantic polluters and always have been.
On another note: why the lack of polls for every state other than South Carolina? That one is still a week off and Nevada is just a few days away, but no polls other than that push poll have been published, far as I can gather.
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On February 16 2016 16:58 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 12:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Advocacy group Environment America has "crunched the numbers" in an effort to reveal who the largest polluters of American waterways are. The culprits that crack the top-15 list may very well surprise you.
If you ask people on the street who America's biggest water polluter is, for many, oil Goliaths like Exxon or Chevron might be first to come to mind - but not by a long shot would either of those be the correct answer.
AK Steel Holding Corp took the slimy grimy first-place prize, with transnational mega meat marketer Tyson Foods coming in a very close second. Two oil companies, Phillips 66 and ExxonMobil, did make the top-15 - but only in 13th and 15th places respectively.
Interestingly, nearly half the entities on the list were food and meat producers, but it's the third-place finisher that's been raising some eyebrows as well.
According to the analysis, the US government, and specifically the Department of Defense (DOD), is the third largest water polluter in America, having dumped some 63,335,653 pounds of poison into waterways from 2010-2014.
The data was compiled using numbers from the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Toxic Release Inventory (TRI) program. According to EPA's website, "TRI tracks the management of certain toxic chemicals that may pose a threat to human health and the environment. US facilities in different industry sectors must report annually how much of each chemical is released to the environment."
Amongst the many potentially deadly substances released by DOD are chemicals, rocket fuel and toxic sewage - but it's the carcinogenic and mutagenic radioactive isotopes let loose by its nuclear munition plants that make DOD's emissions exceptionally dangerous. The Department's myriad facilities, dedicated steadfastly to perpetuating ongoing participation in the nuclear bomb game, have been leaking and leeching lethal radiation from the dawn of the nuclear age, to the present day.
In other words, the very Defense Department that is supposed to be protecting American citizens from mortal threats, is, in and of itself, one of the deadliest threats Americans face - not from bombs or guns, but from millions of pounds of pollution, perpetrated on the country's unsuspecting population every year, by way of the Pentagon itself. Source Anyone familiar with pollution knows that military bases are pretty gigantic polluters and always have been. On another note: why the lack of polls for every state other than South Carolina? That one is still a week off and Nevada is just a few days away, but no polls other than that push poll have been published, far as I can gather.
Basically they have no idea who is going to caucus and no one wants to be wildly off (impugn credibility) is the answer floating around. Everything I've heard and seen from the ground suggests both are heavily swinging Bernie's way.
Hillary can't seem to do anything to drive her numbers up since Biden dropped out. Seems all she can do is try to stop bleeding support but Bernie doesn't have to convert anyone in open primary/caucus states. He's got ~80%+ support in the 18-29 age range and there is more than enough of them to overwhelm Hillary's support if enough come out.
Once Hillary is shown not to have a significant lead among non-white voters I expect the "Well she'll do well in Democrat only states" to be the next "Well she's got a firewall in NV and SC".
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When do they actually reveal their vice president picks?
Because, while i like Sanders, having a 74 year old as President whiteout knowing who would step in for him seems kinda hazardous to me...
Yeah, he might be fit and healthy, but just look how much Obama aged over the last 8 years, that Job seems to drain you fast.
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On February 16 2016 17:42 Velr wrote:
When do they actually reveal their vice president picks?
Because, while i like Sanders, having a 74 year old as President whiteout knowing who would step in for him seems kinda hazardous to me...
Yeah, he might be fit and healthy, but just look how much Obama aged over the last 8 years, that Job seems to drain you fast.
Typically around the convention, after the nominee is clear as often adversaries are considered for the position. I'm more worried about what America has done to basically anyone else who says what he says and gains too much popularity than I am about his age though.
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On February 16 2016 17:25 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 16:58 LegalLord wrote:On February 16 2016 12:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Advocacy group Environment America has "crunched the numbers" in an effort to reveal who the largest polluters of American waterways are. The culprits that crack the top-15 list may very well surprise you.
If you ask people on the street who America's biggest water polluter is, for many, oil Goliaths like Exxon or Chevron might be first to come to mind - but not by a long shot would either of those be the correct answer.
AK Steel Holding Corp took the slimy grimy first-place prize, with transnational mega meat marketer Tyson Foods coming in a very close second. Two oil companies, Phillips 66 and ExxonMobil, did make the top-15 - but only in 13th and 15th places respectively.
Interestingly, nearly half the entities on the list were food and meat producers, but it's the third-place finisher that's been raising some eyebrows as well.
According to the analysis, the US government, and specifically the Department of Defense (DOD), is the third largest water polluter in America, having dumped some 63,335,653 pounds of poison into waterways from 2010-2014.
The data was compiled using numbers from the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Toxic Release Inventory (TRI) program. According to EPA's website, "TRI tracks the management of certain toxic chemicals that may pose a threat to human health and the environment. US facilities in different industry sectors must report annually how much of each chemical is released to the environment."
Amongst the many potentially deadly substances released by DOD are chemicals, rocket fuel and toxic sewage - but it's the carcinogenic and mutagenic radioactive isotopes let loose by its nuclear munition plants that make DOD's emissions exceptionally dangerous. The Department's myriad facilities, dedicated steadfastly to perpetuating ongoing participation in the nuclear bomb game, have been leaking and leeching lethal radiation from the dawn of the nuclear age, to the present day.
In other words, the very Defense Department that is supposed to be protecting American citizens from mortal threats, is, in and of itself, one of the deadliest threats Americans face - not from bombs or guns, but from millions of pounds of pollution, perpetrated on the country's unsuspecting population every year, by way of the Pentagon itself. Source Anyone familiar with pollution knows that military bases are pretty gigantic polluters and always have been. On another note: why the lack of polls for every state other than South Carolina? That one is still a week off and Nevada is just a few days away, but no polls other than that push poll have been published, far as I can gather. Basically they have no idea who is going to caucus and no one wants to be wildly off (impugn credibility) is the answer floating around. Everything I've heard and seen from the ground suggests both are heavily swinging Bernie's way. Hillary can't seem to do anything to drive her numbers up since Biden dropped out. Seems all she can do is try to stop bleeding support but Bernie doesn't have to convert anyone in open primary/caucus states. He's got ~80%+ support in the 18-29 age range and there is more than enough of them to overwhelm Hillary's support if enough come out. Once Hillary is shown not to have a significant lead among non-white voters I expect the "Well she'll do well in Democrat only states" to be the next "Well she's got a firewall in NV and SC".
I'd feel a lot better about Bernie's chances in the general if he does manage to make inroads. I don't expect him to make African-American voters as excited about him as they were about Obama, but if he can compete with Hillary for their votes, and for other demographics which the media just assumes are hers, then I think he's golden.
The lack of polling is pretty frustrating though. So far trends have been fairly predictive in this election, and it's extremely difficult to make out trends when polling data is sparse.
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Polls have been all over the place this time around. It's a troubling time for pollsters to be sure.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
we are still at the sentiment and feelings stage. for some people it may not move beyond that but those are not necessarily swing votes. lots of space to complete rekt guys that currently seem good
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Maybe we should dispel with this fiction that Obama doesn't know what he's doing.
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On February 17 2016 00:32 oneofthem wrote:
we are still at the sentiment and feelings stage. for some people it may not move beyond that but those are not necessarily swing votes. lots of space to complete rekt guys that currently seem good
I don't expect the GOP competition to ever leave that stage. There are too few meaningful policy differences between the candidates not named Trump, so they're basically locked into style over substance for the rest of the primary.
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On February 16 2016 13:27 GreenHorizons wrote:It's possible he could be doing worse without the ads?
The question is, do Americans not want him because he's boring, or because they are wise to and still remember his voter fraud to make his brother president?
I would hope it's the later, but I'm afraid it's the former.
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On February 17 2016 00:34 LegalLord wrote:
Maybe we should dispel with this fiction that Obama doesn't know what he's doing.
Thank you for having the courage to say this.
To be honest, I think he knows EXACTLY what he's doing.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
not far into the future obama would be remembered for his competence.
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He's a pretty average president in a pretty unfortunate period in US politics. Which is more that I can say for most of the candidates in this race.
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My theory he will be remembered for dealing with one of the most dysfunctional congresses in history, the ACA and cleaning up after the doomed Iraq war. A buddy and I are digging through our old history collections to see if there was a more dysfunctional congress. So far, I think we have the loose theory that maybe when dueling congress members was a legit problem. But since dueling isn’t currently a thing, I am not sure its applicable.
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The Congress that rigged Tilden vs. Hayes seems pretty fucked up to me. Probably the most recent one I can think of that was close to the one that has developed since Clinton.
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On February 17 2016 00:47 DickMcFanny wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 13:27 GreenHorizons wrote:It's possible he could be doing worse without the ads? The question is, do Americans not want him because he's boring, or because they are wise to and still remember his voter fraud to make his brother president? I would hope it's the later, but I'm afraid it's the former.
The latter is wishful thinking. Very few people who'd vote in a Republican primary think voter fraud had anything to do with GWB being elected.
Jeb is failing for various reasons. Part of it is baggage from his brother, part of it is Trump, and part of it is a lack of a hook. Every other candidate in the race has a hook, even Kasich. Jeb has been floundering around ever since Trump took the wind out of his sails, and he still doesn't have a hook. "Anti-Trump" isn't going to work because every other candidate has already been beating that drum since before Iowa. Jeb is running his campaign like it's 2000 or 2004, and that's not cutting it.
Clinton would be running into similar problems except she didn't have 2-3 competent establishment competitors pave a yellow brick road for Sanders.
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