EPTThe internet brought us all together, including the terrible people.
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The internet brought us all together, including the terrible people. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:02 Plansix wrote: Bush will go down as one of the worst presidents in the history of the US. The number of things that went wrong and were bungled under his administration are boundless. And the general disrespect for the political process and law was boundless. 9/11, hurricane Katrina, War Iraq and ending with the real estate crash, the country was worse off and more dangerous when he took office after the Clinton years. And we are still paying for Bush’s mistakes. But all his buddies got rich, so there is that. I could get on this bandwagon but a lot of those things aren't his fault. Housing crisis is probably equal measures post dot Com bust plus banks not being allowed to not give sub prime morgages. 9/11 was a long time coming and Katrina was a bigger fuck up then bush could have engineered even if he tried. The wetlands not weakening tge hurricane as much as predicted, the levy not working as predicted, roads being knocked out, a government agency being shockingly inept, are all things that he couldn't have had a hand in. Idk what political process you are referring to but everyone seemed on board with Iraq the tsa and the Patriot act. Having a legitimate opposition to your policy keeps you honest and forces you to defend and fight for your policies. That's something bush never really had to do and Obama has been terrible at. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On December 17 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote: They are good old fashion, government hating people that all came together on the internet to create bullshit legal documents and plague local law enforcement. The only problem with them is the proliferation of them online and sort of rallying around each other. The internet brought us all together, including the terrible people. Just a general vibe to this but the end speech of the great dictator has a lot to say on it. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8775 Posts
On December 17 2015 05:54 ticklishmusic wrote: Why the hell would you cite the Magna Carta... you got it backwards. why the hell would you NOT cite the magna carta! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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KwarK
United States44442 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10989 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/17/us/freddie-gray-baltimore-police-trial.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news | ||
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
If they claim not to be US citizens, can they not be deported? I suppose that would be more work than it would be worth. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12082 Posts
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On December 17 2015 06:35 Sermokala wrote: I could get on this bandwagon but a lot of those things aren't his fault. Housing crisis is probably equal measures post dot Com bust plus banks not being allowed to not give sub prime morgages. 9/11 was a long time coming and Katrina was a bigger fuck up then bush could have engineered even if he tried. The wetlands not weakening tge hurricane as much as predicted, the levy not working as predicted, roads being knocked out, a government agency being shockingly inept, are all things that he couldn't have had a hand in. Idk what political process you are referring to but everyone seemed on board with Iraq the tsa and the Patriot act. Having a legitimate opposition to your policy keeps you honest and forces you to defend and fight for your policies. That's something bush never really had to do and Obama has been terrible at. The housing crisis is a result of the dot com crash and banks being forced to give out subprime loans to everyone??? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 17 2015 05:54 ticklishmusic wrote: Why the hell would you cite the Magna Carta... did they cite it in the original french like dem knights or latin like priests ? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
They know exactly how far to push the law before it will come down on them. Just think of them like those nightmare, abusive, stalker ex-boyfriends that always manages to stay just out of the laws reach. Edit: Also guns. They all have guns. We deal with them in NH, the land of guns and no law. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On December 17 2015 07:20 Simberto wrote: I am really confused by that sovereign citizens thing. It sounds like something that just should not work, at all. From the wikipedia page, they don't pay taxes, ignore laws, and their defense to being prosecuted is spamming bogus shit. Am i reading that correctly? Because in that case i don't see how that can be very popular, considering that it simply should lead to you going to prison really quickly, which should discourage other people from trying the same thing? My first guess would be guns and a willingness to use them to. You know like those militia's with the grazing. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Introvert
United States5091 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On December 17 2015 08:07 Introvert wrote: You believe these people are viewed in a positive light? What are you talking about? No they are not positive (for most people) but they are also mostly ignored because hating on a part of your own people is harder while hating on foreigners is easy. | ||
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Introvert
United States5091 Posts
Edit: and I will point out, that if there are violent incidents (or almost violent), they do make the news. Like the Bundy Ranch standoff. Thing is, that doesn't happen every day. | ||
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