US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2604

On December 05 2015 06:12 Plansix wrote:
Apparently it may not have been an active crime scene per NPRs discussion with the land lord. Which is conflicting with information that the Times provided.

On December 05 2015 07:00 cLutZ wrote:
If its not an active crime scene, with the amount of things that obviously should be bagged and tagged as evidence shown on one of the videos I've seen, both the local FBI and SBPD have committed serious negligence. Its like they don't even want to investigate this situation (which their first few press conferences seemed to indicate, as I said earlier).

Just one day after a suburban school board approved an historic agreement to settle a transgender student's claims of discrimination, the district is now threatening to retract the settlement with the federal government amid accusations that the agency acted in "bad faith."

The Township High School District 211 board voted after 12:30 a.m. Thursday to allow the student, who was born male, to use the girls' locker room — an issue that prompted passionate debate on both sides.
But now district officials have angrily accused the federal Office for Civil Rights of "blatant disregard for the facts" of the settlement. The student had filed a complaint with the office, which is part of the U.S. Department of Education.

"We are outraged by the mischaracterizations" about the agreement, Palatine-based District 211 said in a news release Friday afternoon. "it is wrong, it is an act of bad faith and our school district will not let it stand. ... Citizens have a right to expect more from a federal agency than smoke and mirrors."

The district said it sought a retraction of comments by an Office for Civil Right official about the settlement. Failing that, the district said, it will consider calling an emergency meeting to discuss taking action, "including the potential retraction of the agreement."

The district's statement accused federal officials of erroneously stating that the agreement represents a districtwide policy, rather than applying only to the student in question.

On December 05 2015 07:44 Plansix wrote:
So it amounts to the school saying:

"Wait, we need to treat other transgender students the same way, not just this one? WHAT!!!!!?!?!?!?!? What do you mean that is how civil rights works? We can't threaten to litigate each time this comes up to discourage transgender kids from coming forward?"

Also, I don't get the concern. Are they worried the evil transgender child will check out the girl/boys when they are changing? I got bad news for them, gay students exist and they use the same locker room as straight students. This dark horrible reality has been fact since there were locker rooms.

On December 05 2015 07:44 Plansix wrote:
So it amounts to the school saying:

"Wait, we need to treat other transgender students the same way, not just this one? WHAT!!!!!?!?!?!?!? What do you mean that is how civil rights works? We can't threaten to litigate each time this comes up to discourage transgender kids from coming forward?"

Also, I don't get the concern. Are they worried the evil transgender child will check out the girl/boys when they are changing? I got bad news for them, gay students exist and they use the same locker room as straight students. This dark horrible reality has been fact since there were locker rooms.

(CNN)Donald Trump is once again alone at the top of the Republican field, according to the latest CNN/ORC Poll, with 36% of registered Republicans and Republican-leaning independents behind him, while his nearest competitor trails by 20 points.

Three candidates cluster behind Trump in the mid-teens, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 16%, former neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 14% and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 12%. All other candidates have the support of less than 5% of GOP voters in the race for the Republican Party's nomination for president.

Carson (down 8 points since October), former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (down 5 points to 3%) and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (down 4 points to 1%) have lost the most ground since the last CNN/ORC poll, conducted in mid-October.

Cruz (up 12 points) and Trump (up 9 points) are the greatest beneficiaries of those declines. Rubio is also up slightly, gaining 4 points -- an increase within the poll's margin of sampling error -- since the last CNN/ORC poll.

On December 05 2015 08:07 Wegandi wrote:


Do you not feel any conflict with your vigorous extensions of "sexual harassment" stance? What about the feelings of those being oogled. Ha. Anyways, people need to stop being so prudish - if you feel insecure / want privacy, there's always the stalls. I'm all for some COED locker rooms / bathrooms as well. You learn to adapt a who gives a fuck attitude after playing HS sports (wrestling especially...hahaha + don't get me started about boot camp and military barracks in general lmao), about this type of stuff, but of course you would probably balk at coed ideas....

On December 05 2015 08:32 AngryMag wrote:
I guess the the former dúde will have enough of SJW quickly as soon as a female entering the same bath room will blame him for sexual harassment, justified or not won't even matter.

On December 05 2015 06:50 SolaR- wrote:


It's still trashy

On December 05 2015 07:44 Plansix wrote:
So it amounts to the school saying:

"Wait, we need to treat other transgender students the same way, not just this one? WHAT!!!!!?!?!?!?!? What do you mean that is how civil rights works? We can't threaten to litigate each time this comes up to discourage transgender kids from coming forward?"

Also, I don't get the concern. Are they worried the evil transgender child will check out the girl/boys when they are changing? I got bad news for them, gay students exist and they use the same locker room as straight students. This dark horrible reality has been fact since there were locker rooms.

On December 05 2015 08:55 Simberto wrote:
So, turns out it isn't a lot of fun to be trans? Who would have thought when people are generally so tolerant of people being different.

I really don't get this whole thing. If someone self-identifies as a woman, why should anyone tell them that they are a man? It just seems ridiculous. If it is absolutely no effort or problem for me to call them what they would like to be called, but matters to that person, it just seems like pointlessly being a dick to insist on calling someone something else than they wish to be called.

I also highly doubt that "fake trans" people exist, considering how badly society tends to react to trans people, i highly doubt that someone who did not really feel that way would go through all the hassle just to have the benefit of being ridiculed by people around them.

On December 05 2015 08:49 m4ini wrote:


Yup.. Pretty much this.

Either way, that person won't be happy.

edit: that being said, while i do not necessarily agree with parents arguing "i don't want a penis near my daughter when she changes", i do understand it. This is not something you just ignore, for that to work out you need to know the former guy, now female. That certainly sucks for the transgender person, but completely ignoring parents concerns can't be reasonable either. And while i would never say "he just wanna see teen boobies", there will be kids who're gonna do that. So there's that.

On December 05 2015 08:56 cLutZ wrote:


There needs to be an individualized factual determination, preferably by a judge, regarding whether each individual is a transgender student. That is actually the only way that a weird Huckabee-style parade of horribles doesn't actually come to pass.

We don't put up with "I don't want blacks near my daughter". We tell them that while we recognize their concerns we don't share them and won't change the school system to reflect their values.

On December 05 2015 08:59 KwarK wrote:

We don't put up with "I don't want blacks near my daughter". We tell them that while we recognize their concerns we don't share them and won't change the school system to reflect their values.