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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 21:27:04
December 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#51781
On December 03 2015 06:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.


As a german, go to Japan. Or Canada.

I live in the UK now, Japan or Canada would be where i want to be.
On track to MA1950A.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
December 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#51782
On December 03 2015 06:26 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.


Finland or Iceland.


Don't come just yet..

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 21:27 GMT
#51783
Go to Canada. Its like the US, but better healthcare and a much less dogmatic approach to gun control.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
December 02 2015 21:28 GMT
#51784
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 21:31:51
December 02 2015 21:29 GMT
#51785
On December 03 2015 06:26 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:26 ragz_gt wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.


Finland or Iceland.


Don't come just yet..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTjyt-6hJQw


I lived in Turku for a bit over a year, it's all part of the charm!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
December 02 2015 21:30 GMT
#51786
On December 03 2015 06:26 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.


As a german, go to Japan. Or Canada.

I live in the UK now, Japan or Canada would be where i want to be.


If you're not a fan of working 80 hours a week and getting hit in the face with racism more than occasionally I'd advise against Japan. Knew some people who went there after college because Japan sounds so "kawaii" but they all came back disillusioned a year later.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
December 02 2015 21:31 GMT
#51787
I want to go back to Japan. I loved it there when I was stationed there. As a civilian now, it would be amazing. I grew up in the Midwest of the US, so I'm familiar with cold. But not that North Pole/Arctic cold.

@mahrgell I agree. More guns to stop the shootings before they happen is the best way to go. Preventive measures need to be taken. The best defense is a good offense.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 02 2015 21:34 GMT
#51788
Moving my ass to Taiwan, I'll take the risk of Chinese missiles.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 21:34 GMT
#51789
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

The way to reduce crime in America is to give out fire arms to all the poorest communities so they can protect themselves. Everyone gets one shotgun and a 9mm. We are starting with the US's largest cities with out control crime rates and working out way down. Baltimore first.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
December 02 2015 21:35 GMT
#51790
On December 03 2015 06:29 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:26 Grettin wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:26 ragz_gt wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.


Finland or Iceland.


Don't come just yet..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTjyt-6hJQw


I lived in Turku for a bit over a year, it's all part of the charm!


Yeah i guess. Every year the same winter depression though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 02 2015 21:35 GMT
#51791
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

Or you and company could stop using dead people to push your political opinions while their bodies are still warm.
dude bro.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 21:36 GMT
#51792
On December 03 2015 06:35 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

Or you and company could stop using dead people to push your political opinions while their bodies are still warm.


I think (hope) he was sarcastic.
On track to MA1950A.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 21:38 GMT
#51793
On December 03 2015 06:35 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

Or you and company could stop using dead people to push your political opinions while their bodies are still warm.

This is a politics thread. If you don't want people stating political opinions on gun control, maybe you should take your eyes elsewhere for the next 12 hours or so.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 02 2015 21:38 GMT
#51794
On December 03 2015 06:36 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:35 heliusx wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

Or you and company could stop using dead people to push your political opinions while their bodies are still warm.


I think (hope) he was sarcastic.

Obviously. Its sickening how both sides play this game everytime there's a shooting that makes the headlines.
dude bro.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44288 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 21:40:28
December 02 2015 21:38 GMT
#51795
On December 03 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

The way to reduce crime in America is to give out fire arms to all the poorest communities so they can protect themselves. Everyone gets one shotgun and a 9mm. We are starting with the US's largest cities with out control crime rates and working out way down. Baltimore first.

You'll have to retrain the police to deal with open carry patriots who aren't white. The huge difference between the way the police shooting of an armed black guy and an unarmed black guy has always baffled me. Sure, if the guy was pointing a guy at the officer that'd be one thing but citizens do have a constitutional right to be armed. I feel like the police selectively understand that. Like you never see "black community outraged over death of an armed black guy who totally wasn't doing anything wrong". It must happen, given the number of unarmed black guys killed by police.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
December 02 2015 21:40 GMT
#51796
On December 03 2015 06:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:35 heliusx wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

Or you and company could stop using dead people to push your political opinions while their bodies are still warm.

This is a politics thread. If you don't want people stating political opinions on gun control, maybe you should take your eyes elsewhere for the next 12 hours or so.


Which is why gun control arguments go into the gun control thread, so you guys can shout past each other out of sight.
dude bro.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 21:42 GMT
#51797
On December 03 2015 06:38 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

The way to reduce crime in America is to give out fire arms to all the poorest communities so they can protect themselves. Everyone gets one shotgun and a 9mm. We are starting with the US's largest cities with out control crime rates and working out way down. Baltimore first.

You'll have to retrain the police to deal with open carry patriots who aren't white. The huge difference between the way the police shooting of an armed black guy and an unarmed black guy has always baffled me. Sure, if the guy was pointing a guy at the officer that'd be one thing but citizens do have a constitutional right to be armed. I feel like the police selectively understand that. Like you never see "black community outraged over death of an armed black guy who totally wasn't doing anything wrong". It must happen, given the number of unarmed black guys killed by police.

I clearly needed more sarcasm in my statement. Handing out fire arms to everyone is the dumbest idea on the planet. We can't even give police non-lethal weapons without them misusing them. I'm not giving the general population shotguns in the name of safety.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 21:42 GMT
#51798
It's pretty delusional to assume gun control isn't discussed just after yet another mass shooting. That's kind of the main point.

I clearly needed more sarcasm in my statement. Handing out fire arms to everyone is the dumbest idea on the planet. We can't even give police non-lethal weapons without them misusing them. I'm not giving the general population shotguns in the name of safety.


Well. It works amazing in "The Purge" though.
On track to MA1950A.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 21:44:06
December 02 2015 21:43 GMT
#51799
On December 03 2015 06:38 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

The way to reduce crime in America is to give out fire arms to all the poorest communities so they can protect themselves. Everyone gets one shotgun and a 9mm. We are starting with the US's largest cities with out control crime rates and working out way down. Baltimore first.

You'll have to retrain the police to deal with open carry patriots who aren't white. The huge difference between the way the police shooting of an armed black guy and an unarmed black guy has always baffled me. Sure, if the guy was pointing a guy at the officer that'd be one thing but citizens do have a constitutional right to be armed. I feel like the police selectively understand that. Like you never see "black community outraged over death of an armed black guy who totally wasn't doing anything wrong". It must happen, given the number of unarmed black guys killed by police.


I think it's pretty clear that the second amendment is more of a white people thing. After all when a certain historic party looted and destroyed British property and dumped it into the harbour it was an act of justified rebellion, if one black guy loots a store the whole civil movement is apparently potentially violent and dangerous.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44288 Posts
December 02 2015 21:44 GMT
#51800
On December 03 2015 06:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:38 KwarK wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:28 mahrgell wrote:
Obviously not enough people there had concealed guns. Would have been so easy to stop that. I think the only way to stop this from happening is to change the 2nd amendment from "right to bear a weapon" to "obligation to bear weapon".

The way to reduce crime in America is to give out fire arms to all the poorest communities so they can protect themselves. Everyone gets one shotgun and a 9mm. We are starting with the US's largest cities with out control crime rates and working out way down. Baltimore first.

You'll have to retrain the police to deal with open carry patriots who aren't white. The huge difference between the way the police shooting of an armed black guy and an unarmed black guy has always baffled me. Sure, if the guy was pointing a guy at the officer that'd be one thing but citizens do have a constitutional right to be armed. I feel like the police selectively understand that. Like you never see "black community outraged over death of an armed black guy who totally wasn't doing anything wrong". It must happen, given the number of unarmed black guys killed by police.

I clearly needed more sarcasm in my statement. Handing out fire arms to everyone is the dumbest idea on the planet. We can't even give police non-lethal weapons without them misusing them. I'm not giving the general population shotguns in the name of safety.

This isn't your first post here. I know your stance on guns without a /s tag.

I was just making an observation that a lot of people aren't comfortable with the idea of the citizens in the most crime stricken areas having a second amendment right.
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