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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 20:30 GMT
#51761
On December 03 2015 05:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 05:25 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:23 Mohdoo wrote:
If it ends up that these people are even kind of tan, it is going to help Trump in the polls. Strange world we live in.


The really sad part is, that if it's white folks, it would too, because obviously heavily armed social workers could've killed those shooters first.

They will be gentle loners that no one suspected could do this. They just had a love of fire arms and some problems making friends.


Yup.. The usual suspects.

One thing i don't understand though, at least the helicopter shots show police just casually doodling along. Shouldn't there be a bit more.. "stress", if there's actually three active shooters roaming around?
On track to MA1950A.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
December 02 2015 20:34 GMT
#51762
On December 03 2015 05:30 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 05:26 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:25 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:23 Mohdoo wrote:
If it ends up that these people are even kind of tan, it is going to help Trump in the polls. Strange world we live in.


The really sad part is, that if it's white folks, it would too, because obviously heavily armed social workers could've killed those shooters first.

They will be gentle loners that no one suspected could do this. They just had a love of fire arms and some problems making friends.


One thing i don't understand though, at least the helicopter shots show police just casually doodling along. Shouldn't there be a bit more.. "stress", if there's actually three active shooters roaming around?


Over the police scanner, people are wondering why the nearby golf course is still not evacuated and why people are golfing.. Yeah, makes you wonder what everyone is doing.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
December 02 2015 20:34 GMT
#51763
On December 03 2015 05:22 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 05:18 DickMcFanny wrote:
The CIA guy at CNN just hinted at Muslim terrorism.

He's paid to speculate, that's the way the media circus works.

Of course it could be Muslim terrorism but it could equally not be.


The most accurate depiction of news sensationalism I've ever seen.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 20:36 GMT
#51764
On December 03 2015 05:34 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 05:30 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:26 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:25 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:23 Mohdoo wrote:
If it ends up that these people are even kind of tan, it is going to help Trump in the polls. Strange world we live in.


The really sad part is, that if it's white folks, it would too, because obviously heavily armed social workers could've killed those shooters first.

They will be gentle loners that no one suspected could do this. They just had a love of fire arms and some problems making friends.


One thing i don't understand though, at least the helicopter shots show police just casually doodling along. Shouldn't there be a bit more.. "stress", if there's actually three active shooters roaming around?


Over the police scanner, people are wondering why the nearby golf course is still not evacuated and why people are golfing.. Yeah, makes you wonder what everyone is doing.

Lets be fair to the police, its hard to evacuate people, especially if they don't have a place to send them to. If they don't' know where the shooters are, causing panic isn't a great plan.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 20:40 GMT
#51765
On December 03 2015 05:36 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 05:34 Grettin wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:30 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:26 Plansix wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:25 m4ini wrote:
On December 03 2015 05:23 Mohdoo wrote:
If it ends up that these people are even kind of tan, it is going to help Trump in the polls. Strange world we live in.


The really sad part is, that if it's white folks, it would too, because obviously heavily armed social workers could've killed those shooters first.

They will be gentle loners that no one suspected could do this. They just had a love of fire arms and some problems making friends.


One thing i don't understand though, at least the helicopter shots show police just casually doodling along. Shouldn't there be a bit more.. "stress", if there's actually three active shooters roaming around?


Over the police scanner, people are wondering why the nearby golf course is still not evacuated and why people are golfing.. Yeah, makes you wonder what everyone is doing.

Lets be fair to the police, its hard to evacuate people, especially if they don't have a place to send them to. If they don't' know where the shooters are, causing panic isn't a great plan.


While i agree that causing panic obviously is stupid, you know.. If i play golf somewhere, and there's hundreds of police showing up (the course apparently is close by).. I start to check my cellphone.
On track to MA1950A.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
December 02 2015 20:43 GMT
#51766
Bash CNN as much as you want, but a good half hour ago the BBC iPhone app send me a message about 20 casualties and three assailants.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 20:45 GMT
#51767
On December 03 2015 05:43 DickMcFanny wrote:
Bash CNN as much as you want, but a good half hour ago the BBC iPhone app send me a message about 20 casualties and three assailants.

But that is accurate information based on what the police have said...?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 02 2015 20:47 GMT
#51768
All accounts suggest multiple suspects.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 20:53:54
December 02 2015 20:51 GMT
#51769
Gunmen might not be there anymore, apparently, possibly driven away in an SUV right after shooting. Confirmed that there are dead people, no numbers.

edit: police looking for black yukon.
On track to MA1950A.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24157 Posts
December 02 2015 20:55 GMT
#51770
Yeah, doesn't sound like they think the gunman is on scene. Sounds like they are just stopping black SUV's that people are calling in at this point?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 02 2015 20:57 GMT
#51771
I was working around there Tuesday, thankfully today's further south. People are blowing up my phone. The world we live in sometimes.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
December 02 2015 21:04 GMT
#51772
I get it now, the US doesn't do anything to curb these shootings because they are training our mental fortitude against terrorism. So if something happens Americans can just do "oh some terrorists shot up some place....*shrug* that happened twice last month".
Never Knows Best.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 21:09:09
December 02 2015 21:05 GMT
#51773
On December 03 2015 06:04 Slaughter wrote:
I get it now, the US doesn't do anything to curb these shootings because they are training our mental fortitude against terrorism. So if something happens Americans can just do "oh some terrorists shot up some place....*shrug* that happened twice last month".


Long way to go if you would've listened to the father, literally crying on the phone to the reporter, because he was in terror when he heard that his daughter were in the building.

edit:

Apparently, the gunman/men walked into a xmas party/award ceremony of county employees. Maybe a "revenge" for being fired?
On track to MA1950A.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 02 2015 21:08 GMT
#51774
On December 03 2015 06:04 Slaughter wrote:
I get it now, the US doesn't do anything to curb these shootings because they are training our mental fortitude against terrorism. So if something happens Americans can just do "oh some terrorists shot up some place....*shrug* that happened twice last month".

The key is that the government agencies that would investigate these events are under or not funded and there are numerous restrictions on how they are allowed to collect information. Because its way easier to defund enforcement than to change laws. So even if someone in the government wants to look at this from a very data driven approach, there is no data.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 21:11 GMT
#51775
As boring as it is to watch the live-feed, thumbs up to the police for requesting and to journalists for honoring an agreement to not show anything important.
On track to MA1950A.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24157 Posts
December 02 2015 21:20 GMT
#51776
Oh, new contact location...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#51777
Apparently, an abandoned black yukon was reported to police, and they're investigating.
On track to MA1950A.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
December 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#51778
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
December 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#51779
On December 03 2015 06:20 GreenHorizons wrote:
Oh, new contact location...



Talk about slight panic. First a mall, a school and now Target. Everyone reporting everything suspicious.

Hopefully they'll catch the motherfucker(s) before more damage happens.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
December 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#51780
On December 03 2015 06:25 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So, I've been thinking about moving abroad. I wanted to move to Germany or Japan. Not sure. Maybe an island somewhere? I'm sick of "civilized" society.


Finland or Iceland.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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