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On December 03 2015 05:12 xDaunt wrote: What was attacked? A country club/golf course?
"Inland Regional Center’s qualified and supportive employees strive daily to serve more than 31,000 individuals with developmental disabilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties."
On December 03 2015 04:02 ZeroChrome wrote: I saw it on 4chan and the thread reached bump limit so I can't find it again. If I do I'll post it. It was like 4 hours long so I don't think it was faked.
I found this quite funny though
I wonder if that figure includes the salary of the guy he has shitposting on twitter all day?
He doesn't have to spend money on advertising since news outlets and commentators do it for him.
On December 03 2015 02:45 Plansix wrote: [quote] What evidences is there that violence will remove it within a generation?
Any number of historical conquests?
Though, as you point out, this requires a level of ruthlessness and willful cruelty that is now considered beyond the pale. Sure, we could wipe out ISIS and everyone who sympathizes with them. We could destroy entire villages that gave us shit. But hell, even ISIS tends to not put entire villages to death. At the point your brutality has eclipsed your enemy, you have given up any moral justification for war.
The whole convincing folks of Western values thing seems like a better bet. Let's add that it's remarkable how much appeal the West really has. Even our worse traits (hedonism etc) are pretty attractive to people.
Putting it another way, look at the history of US interactions with pretty much any Latin American country. Back when we were focused on killing our enemies, we kept making more. When we gave up on that (mostly through boredom and distraction, and partly due to confidence) we actually started to make friends.
If anything, radical Islam is more of a problem now than it was two decades ago.
And how exactly is that surprising?
Additionally I think you would struggle to describe the last two decades as being non confrontational with Islam and trying to win them over with cultural superiority and the high road. Things have gotten worse but that is not a point against the ideological strategy, that wasn't the strategy used in the last two decades. The military strategy is the one condemned by failure.
Couldn't have said it better.
That being said, what's going on in San Bernadino?
The most heavily armed/armored active shooters since the North Hollywood bank shootout? But this time with heaps of dead.
.. and where did you gather that?
Search the internet. They are reported to be heavily armed and wearing military gear. I don't know about armor, but it could be true.
On December 03 2015 02:45 xDaunt wrote: [quote] Any number of historical conquests?
Though, as you point out, this requires a level of ruthlessness and willful cruelty that is now considered beyond the pale. Sure, we could wipe out ISIS and everyone who sympathizes with them. We could destroy entire villages that gave us shit. But hell, even ISIS tends to not put entire villages to death. At the point your brutality has eclipsed your enemy, you have given up any moral justification for war.
The whole convincing folks of Western values thing seems like a better bet. Let's add that it's remarkable how much appeal the West really has. Even our worse traits (hedonism etc) are pretty attractive to people.
Putting it another way, look at the history of US interactions with pretty much any Latin American country. Back when we were focused on killing our enemies, we kept making more. When we gave up on that (mostly through boredom and distraction, and partly due to confidence) we actually started to make friends.
If anything, radical Islam is more of a problem now than it was two decades ago.
And how exactly is that surprising?
Additionally I think you would struggle to describe the last two decades as being non confrontational with Islam and trying to win them over with cultural superiority and the high road. Things have gotten worse but that is not a point against the ideological strategy, that wasn't the strategy used in the last two decades. The military strategy is the one condemned by failure.
Couldn't have said it better.
That being said, what's going on in San Bernadino?
The most heavily armed/armored active shooters since the North Hollywood bank shootout? But this time with heaps of dead.
.. and where did you gather that?
Search the internet. They are reported to be heavily armed and wearing military gear. I don't know about armor, but it could be true.
On December 03 2015 05:12 xDaunt wrote: What was attacked? A country club/golf course?
Fire department. It is unclear how why specifically.
On December 03 2015 02:45 Plansix wrote: [quote] What evidences is there that violence will remove it within a generation?
Any number of historical conquests?
Though, as you point out, this requires a level of ruthlessness and willful cruelty that is now considered beyond the pale. Sure, we could wipe out ISIS and everyone who sympathizes with them. We could destroy entire villages that gave us shit. But hell, even ISIS tends to not put entire villages to death. At the point your brutality has eclipsed your enemy, you have given up any moral justification for war.
The whole convincing folks of Western values thing seems like a better bet. Let's add that it's remarkable how much appeal the West really has. Even our worse traits (hedonism etc) are pretty attractive to people.
Putting it another way, look at the history of US interactions with pretty much any Latin American country. Back when we were focused on killing our enemies, we kept making more. When we gave up on that (mostly through boredom and distraction, and partly due to confidence) we actually started to make friends.
If anything, radical Islam is more of a problem now than it was two decades ago.
And how exactly is that surprising?
Additionally I think you would struggle to describe the last two decades as being non confrontational with Islam and trying to win them over with cultural superiority and the high road. Things have gotten worse but that is not a point against the ideological strategy, that wasn't the strategy used in the last two decades. The military strategy is the one condemned by failure.
Couldn't have said it better.
That being said, what's going on in San Bernadino?
The most heavily armed/armored active shooters since the North Hollywood bank shootout? But this time with heaps of dead.
.. and where did you gather that?
Search the internet. They are reported to be heavily armed and wearing military gear. I don't know about armor, but it could be true.
On December 03 2015 05:12 xDaunt wrote: What was attacked? A country club/golf course?
Fire department. It is unclear how why specifically.
From CNN:
• KABC reported that the shooting took place at Inland Regional Center, a facility for people with developmental disabilities.
Inland Regional Center's Facebook page says it employs nearly 670 staff at its facilities in San Bernardino and Riverside counties, providing services to more than 30,200 people.
On December 03 2015 02:45 xDaunt wrote: [quote] Any number of historical conquests?
Though, as you point out, this requires a level of ruthlessness and willful cruelty that is now considered beyond the pale. Sure, we could wipe out ISIS and everyone who sympathizes with them. We could destroy entire villages that gave us shit. But hell, even ISIS tends to not put entire villages to death. At the point your brutality has eclipsed your enemy, you have given up any moral justification for war.
The whole convincing folks of Western values thing seems like a better bet. Let's add that it's remarkable how much appeal the West really has. Even our worse traits (hedonism etc) are pretty attractive to people.
Putting it another way, look at the history of US interactions with pretty much any Latin American country. Back when we were focused on killing our enemies, we kept making more. When we gave up on that (mostly through boredom and distraction, and partly due to confidence) we actually started to make friends.
If anything, radical Islam is more of a problem now than it was two decades ago.
And how exactly is that surprising?
Additionally I think you would struggle to describe the last two decades as being non confrontational with Islam and trying to win them over with cultural superiority and the high road. Things have gotten worse but that is not a point against the ideological strategy, that wasn't the strategy used in the last two decades. The military strategy is the one condemned by failure.
Couldn't have said it better.
That being said, what's going on in San Bernadino?
The most heavily armed/armored active shooters since the North Hollywood bank shootout? But this time with heaps of dead.
.. and where did you gather that?
Search the internet. They are reported to be heavily armed and wearing military gear. I don't know about armor, but it could be true.
On December 03 2015 05:12 xDaunt wrote: What was attacked? A country club/golf course?
Fire department. It is unclear how why specifically.
A police spokeswoman told the Times that the suspects were heavily armed and possibly wearing body armor.
on that
And that's apparently all we now. That's a bit less than "The most heavily armed/armored active shooters since the North Hollywood bank shootout? But this time with heaps of dead."
No dead confirmed as far as sky5 reports, no info on shooters.
On December 03 2015 05:18 DickMcFanny wrote: The CIA guy at CNN just hinted at Muslim terrorism.
he's a cia guy whos probobly worried about threats from outside of the country. of course his brain is probably going to go to that. It's still really dumb to speculate at this time though
On December 03 2015 05:23 Mohdoo wrote: If it ends up that these people are even kind of tan, it is going to help Trump in the polls. Strange world we live in.
The really sad part is, that if it's white folks, it would too, because obviously heavily armed social workers could've killed those shooters first.
On December 03 2015 05:23 Mohdoo wrote: If it ends up that these people are even kind of tan, it is going to help Trump in the polls. Strange world we live in.
The really sad part is, that if it's white folks, it would too, because obviously heavily armed social workers could've killed those shooters first.
They will be gentle loners that no one suspected could do this. They just had a love of fire arms and some problems making friends.
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