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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 21 2015 18:14 GMT
#42381
Around 3 million more children in the U.S. are living in poverty than at the beginning of the Great Recession — a worrying statistic that mutes much of the fanfare of the nation's economic turnaround, according to a report released Tuesday on child welfare.

Twenty-two percent of U.S. children were living in poverty in 2013 compared with 18 percent in 2008, according to the Kids Count Data Book, an annual report that ranks states by the well-being of their children. It equates to an increase of 2.9 million children, according to census data from those years.

Poverty rates have nearly doubled among African-Americans and American Indians since 2008, and hardship is most severe in the South and Southwest, the report found.

The report, based on data from the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey, defines children in poverty as those under the age of 18, living in families with annual incomes below $23,624. In all, some 16,087,000 children are deemed to be living in poverty in America.

Minnesota ranked as the best state for overall child well-being, based on indicators including economic standing, education and health. Mississippi ranked the worst.

The report, released Tuesday from the child advocacy group the Annie E. Casey Foundation, showed signs of slight improvement in some areas, including high school graduation rates being at an all-time high and a falling percentage of children without health insurance.


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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2955 Posts
July 21 2015 18:29 GMT
#42382
On July 22 2015 02:51 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm starting to think Trump is still a liberal who is trying to destroy his enemy from the inside on behalf of his good ol' democratic friends. Pretty much every word that comes out of his mouth is some pseudo-intellectual, hyperbolic, unfounded garbage. Won't hold up under real scrutiny.

Plus, it's simply a matter of time until he says something else really stupid that pisses off the GoP again...


Hey, at least he's REALLY rich! And he builds walls better than anyone else!
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 18:35:48
July 21 2015 18:34 GMT
#42383
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2015 18:47 GMT
#42384
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 19:01:59
July 21 2015 18:54 GMT
#42385
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22408 Posts
July 21 2015 19:01 GMT
#42386
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

I listened to the phone number clip linked above, to find why he did it, and in that he already said "I donated to Hillary/Democrats".
So that one is already out in the open
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 19:19:37
July 21 2015 19:19 GMT
#42387
On July 22 2015 04:01 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

I listened to the phone number clip linked above, to find why he did it, and in that he already said "I donated to Hillary/Democrats".
So that one is already out in the open

Trump has an interesting strategy of letting all his skeletons out of the closet at the very beginning on his own accord instead of letting another candidate play got ya games with him. We will see if it pays off.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2015 19:20 GMT
#42388
On July 22 2015 04:19 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

I listened to the phone number clip linked above, to find why he did it, and in that he already said "I donated to Hillary/Democrats".
So that one is already out in the open

Trump has an interesting strategy of letting all his skeletons out at the very beginning on his own accord instead of letting another candidate play got ya games with him. We will see if it pays off.

It won't because the man is a nightmare would without insulting some minority group, veterans and leaking the personal information for rivals. Everyone watches the car crash.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 19:38:12
July 21 2015 19:35 GMT
#42389
On July 22 2015 04:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:19 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 04:01 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

I listened to the phone number clip linked above, to find why he did it, and in that he already said "I donated to Hillary/Democrats".
So that one is already out in the open

Trump has an interesting strategy of letting all his skeletons out at the very beginning on his own accord instead of letting another candidate play got ya games with him. We will see if it pays off.

It won't because the man is a nightmare would without insulting some minority group, veterans and leaking the personal information for rivals. Everyone watches the car crash.

Except nobody is actually outraged about what Trump is doing. The media has and politicians have feign outrage because what Don is doing does not fit the narrative they have written for themselves of being "fair impartial and unbiased".
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18858 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 19:37:31
July 21 2015 19:36 GMT
#42390
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2015 19:41 GMT
#42391
Someone is confusing an overall apathy for 2 year run up for an presidential election as acceptance of Trump. People need not like the length of the 2012 election and they are not going to get super invested until the clowns are thinned out.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
July 21 2015 19:43 GMT
#42392
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I know as much about politics as Trump does. I watch the Polls and see who is winning. Its easy.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2015 19:45 GMT
#42393
On July 22 2015 04:43 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I know as much about politics as Trump does. I watch the Polls and see who is winning. Its easy.

If the stats are not from Nate Silver, they are worthless. All other polls and data are inferior.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
July 21 2015 19:57 GMT
#42394
On July 22 2015 04:43 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I know as much about politics as Trump does. I watch the Polls and see who is winning. Its easy.

Why don't you ask xdaunt and every other old blood conservative in here about conservative poll numbers?

Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 21 2015 20:02 GMT
#42395
On July 22 2015 04:57 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:43 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I know as much about politics as Trump does. I watch the Polls and see who is winning. Its easy.

Why don't you ask xdaunt and every other old blood conservative in here about conservative poll numbers?


Poll numbers mean dick at this stage of the game. Herman Cain was polling at something ridiculous like 25% at one point during the fall leading up to the primaries in 2012. There's not a lot of reason to pay attention until the debates begin in earnest.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2015 20:04 GMT
#42396
On July 22 2015 05:02 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:57 Jormundr wrote:
On July 22 2015 04:43 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I know as much about politics as Trump does. I watch the Polls and see who is winning. Its easy.

Why don't you ask xdaunt and every other old blood conservative in here about conservative poll numbers?


Poll numbers mean dick at this stage of the game. Herman Cain was polling at something ridiculous like 25% at one point during the fall leading up to the primaries in 2012. There's not a lot of reason to pay attention until the debates begin in earnest.

Giuliani was leading by like 33% in July of 2007. We all saw how that worked out.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 21 2015 20:09 GMT
#42397
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I think that is known as 'Trumping'
Freeeeeeedom
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23994 Posts
July 21 2015 20:18 GMT
#42398
On July 22 2015 05:02 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 04:57 Jormundr wrote:
On July 22 2015 04:43 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 04:36 farvacola wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:54 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:47 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2015 03:34 whatisthisasheep wrote:
I cant wait to see the debates between Trump and Clinton. Trump will start reading aloud who all her donors are and hillary will be like "fml"

Until it turns out Trump indirectly donated to her and was not aware. I also think we are in the part of the cycle when everyone but Nate Silver assumes the American people are really dumb. Then the real elections start and everyone gets a rude awaking than most people were not watching the clown show.

Then Trump will say "look even I donated to her so she would let me do what I want because shes such a whore" or something along those lines and everybody will laugh at her and he will win because thats how we role in america

Your understanding of US electoral politics is as tenuous as your grasp of the English language. But keep on stumping for Trump please

I know as much about politics as Trump does. I watch the Polls and see who is winning. Its easy.

Why don't you ask xdaunt and every other old blood conservative in here about conservative poll numbers?


Poll numbers mean dick at this stage of the game. Herman Cain was polling at something ridiculous like 25% at one point during the fall leading up to the primaries in 2012. There's not a lot of reason to pay attention until the debates begin in earnest.


Just for the record Cain spent about a month at the top of the polls, If Trump holds it together through the debate he will have been in the lead longer than the previous examples.

Walker is going to get crushed, what matters is what Jeb can do (he's this cycles Romney) Jeb needs to come out of the debate without getting beat up and will instantly leap to the top if he is able to score points/a win off of Trump. Rubio is a wild card too, I don't think he has a chance against Trump but maybe he can bait him into something stupid. Trump probably doesn't know squat about Cuba, so that might be an angle for Rubio.

As much as Republicans were bragging about their depth they really only have Trump, Bush, Walker, and maybe Rubio to work with.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18858 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-21 20:24:49
July 21 2015 20:24 GMT
#42399
You're narrowing the field too early. Time favors the more substantial candidates so dudes like Kasich and Walker, whom I both despise, will have more time to give their platforms some character that is simply not there with individuals like Trump, Fiorina, or Huckabee. The field in 6 months will look quite different.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 21 2015 20:34 GMT
#42400
I like Kasich. Seems like a pretty solid dude, very moderate and pragmatic. Gets shit done.

He wears religion on his sleeve, but doesn't shove it down people's throats.
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