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On July 21 2015 14:17 ticklishmusic wrote: If Trump keeps up his shenanigans in office (if he gets there) I guarantee they'll impeach him before the first 100 days are over.
No way he actually wins the general, but he could ruin everyone who can't fund through super Tuesday.
I've been saying since long before Trump the conservatives (especially here) have been underestimating the size and vigor of the part of the republican party which subscribes fully to Trumpesque type politics.
Trump is the manifest personification of conservative online comment section folk. The ones that for years the conservatives here have been dismissing as fringe and just a very vocal minority... Trump is showing they are the single largest and most solidified group under the tent.
On July 21 2015 14:17 ticklishmusic wrote: If Trump keeps up his shenanigans in office (if he gets there) I guarantee they'll impeach him before the first 100 days are over.
No way he actually wins the general, but he could ruin everyone who can't fund through super Tuesday.
I've been saying since long before Trump the conservatives (especially here) have been underestimating the size and vigor of the part of the republican party which subscribes fully to Trumpesque type politics.
Trump is the manifest personification of conservative online comment section folk. The ones that for years the conservatives here have been dismissing as fringe and just a very vocal minority... Trump is showing they are the single largest and most solidified group under the tent.
This identifies the core problem within the Republican Party: Internal fracture into vying factions. For all of it's fuckups, the Tea Party did have a tangible impact on politics. Those elections drove the Republican Party into several groups: Traditional small government conservatives, neo-cons, religious far right, wannabe libertarians. This division has been hurting the party for the past few years. In Congress, it isn't as much of an issue. Despite their differences, the various Republicans can still rally around the party line and vote against Dems. But when they attempt to pass legislation of their own, there's a lot of gridlock coming from the factions.
Because of this, the primary is very interesting. Each candidate is trying to identify their faction and target it, while drawing votes from other factions. You don't need a majority of the party anymore, you just need to get the biggest faction. Trump has been hitting key points from a lot of those factions, but he really has yet to narrow in on one. He can definitely capture the nomination, but he's going to have to specialize his platform to meet the constraints of a faction. Which scares me.
I think this made sense. It's 2am and i'm super fucking tired. Apologies if it didn't.
On July 21 2015 14:17 ticklishmusic wrote: If Trump keeps up his shenanigans in office (if he gets there) I guarantee they'll impeach him before the first 100 days are over.
No way he actually wins the general, but he could ruin everyone who can't fund through super Tuesday.
I've been saying since long before Trump the conservatives (especially here) have been underestimating the size and vigor of the part of the republican party which subscribes fully to Trumpesque type politics.
Trump is the manifest personification of conservative online comment section folk. The ones that for years the conservatives here have been dismissing as fringe and just a very vocal minority... Trump is showing they are the single largest and most solidified group under the tent.
This identifies the core problem within the Republican Party: Internal fracture into vying factions. For all of it's fuckups, the Tea Party did have a tangible impact on politics. Those elections drove the Republican Party into several groups: Traditional small government conservatives, neo-cons, religious far right, wannabe libertarians. This division has been hurting the party for the past few years. In Congress, it isn't as much of an issue. Despite their differences, the various Republicans can still rally around the party line and vote against Dems. But when they attempt to pass legislation of their own, there's a lot of gridlock coming from the factions.
Because of this, the primary is very interesting. Each candidate is trying to identify their faction and target it, while drawing votes from other factions. You don't need a majority of the party anymore, you just need to get the biggest faction. Trump has been hitting key points from a lot of those factions, but he really has yet to narrow in on one. He can definitely capture the nomination, but he's going to have to specialize his platform to meet the constraints of a faction. Which scares me.
I think this made sense. It's 2am and i'm super fucking tired. Apologies if it didn't.
No I think you're pretty right on which is what gives Scott Walker a shot if he can pick up Carson's and Huckabee's support over Trump.
Walker is walking the line with his 20-week abortion ban. The ban helps and no exception for rape or incest helps with that faction too, but his unwillingness to go for the full Monty with no exception for the health of the mother may be enough for many of them to just stay home or consolidate around either Huckabee or Carson.
I'm so sad we haven't had debates already but I simply can't wait for that first one to get here.
On July 21 2015 14:17 ticklishmusic wrote: If Trump keeps up his shenanigans in office (if he gets there) I guarantee they'll impeach him before the first 100 days are over.
No way he actually wins the general, but he could ruin everyone who can't fund through super Tuesday.
I've been saying since long before Trump the conservatives (especially here) have been underestimating the size and vigor of the part of the republican party which subscribes fully to Trumpesque type politics.
Trump is the manifest personification of conservative online comment section folk. The ones that for years the conservatives here have been dismissing as fringe and just a very vocal minority... Trump is showing they are the single largest and most solidified group under the tent.
This identifies the core problem within the Republican Party: Internal fracture into vying factions. For all of it's fuckups, the Tea Party did have a tangible impact on politics. Those elections drove the Republican Party into several groups: Traditional small government conservatives, neo-cons, religious far right, wannabe libertarians. This division has been hurting the party for the past few years. In Congress, it isn't as much of an issue. Despite their differences, the various Republicans can still rally around the party line and vote against Dems. But when they attempt to pass legislation of their own, there's a lot of gridlock coming from the factions.
Because of this, the primary is very interesting. Each candidate is trying to identify their faction and target it, while drawing votes from other factions. You don't need a majority of the party anymore, you just need to get the biggest faction. Trump has been hitting key points from a lot of those factions, but he really has yet to narrow in on one. He can definitely capture the nomination, but he's going to have to specialize his platform to meet the constraints of a faction. Which scares me.
I think this made sense. It's 2am and i'm super fucking tired. Apologies if it didn't.
No I think you're pretty right on which is what gives Scott Walker a shot if he can pick up Carson's and Huckabee's support over Trump.
Walker is walking the line with his 20-week abortion ban. The ban helps and no exception for rape or incest helps with that faction too, but his unwillingness to go for the full Monty with no exception for the health of the mother may be enough for many of them to just stay home or consolidate around either Huckabee or Carson.
I'm so sad we haven't had debates already but I simply can't wait for that first one to get here.
Carson is dead in the water, IMO. No experience, no momentum, nothing particularly interesting about his platform. I honestly think Huckabee has just tossed his name in the mix so that his eventual endorsement has more weight. His spending is pretty low compared to other candidates. He knows how to run a campaign, if he were serious, he would be more aggressive with fundraising/spending.
Walker really hits the traditional conservative demo, but he also has some crossover into the religious right. His stances on LGBT rights and women's rights will net him some votes with that crowd. I think his biggest danger is his stance on unions. He risks losing a good chunk of Rust Belt votes with his voting record. I mean, he would never win those states in the general, but hey, in the primary, every vote counts.
I think Trump has some appeal because he isn't a politician. People are getting pretty sick of the people we have in office (no matter what way they lean) so its somewhat of a fuck you to all these established politicians. Also I think since the GOP has seen a culture shift away from some of the major things they stood for and Trump's Dickish loud mouth represents to them someone who will fight tooth and nail for shit a large swath of republican voters want. Especially since Republicans are constantly painting themselves and what they want as being under siege for quite the while now. Listening to Fox you would think every single thing conservatives hold dear is aggressively under attack by leftist boogeymen.
On July 21 2015 14:17 ticklishmusic wrote: If Trump keeps up his shenanigans in office (if he gets there) I guarantee they'll impeach him before the first 100 days are over.
No way he actually wins the general, but he could ruin everyone who can't fund through super Tuesday.
I've been saying since long before Trump the conservatives (especially here) have been underestimating the size and vigor of the part of the republican party which subscribes fully to Trumpesque type politics.
Trump is the manifest personification of conservative online comment section folk. The ones that for years the conservatives here have been dismissing as fringe and just a very vocal minority... Trump is showing they are the single largest and most solidified group under the tent.
This identifies the core problem within the Republican Party: Internal fracture into vying factions. For all of it's fuckups, the Tea Party did have a tangible impact on politics. Those elections drove the Republican Party into several groups: Traditional small government conservatives, neo-cons, religious far right, wannabe libertarians. This division has been hurting the party for the past few years. In Congress, it isn't as much of an issue. Despite their differences, the various Republicans can still rally around the party line and vote against Dems. But when they attempt to pass legislation of their own, there's a lot of gridlock coming from the factions.
Because of this, the primary is very interesting. Each candidate is trying to identify their faction and target it, while drawing votes from other factions. You don't need a majority of the party anymore, you just need to get the biggest faction. Trump has been hitting key points from a lot of those factions, but he really has yet to narrow in on one. He can definitely capture the nomination, but he's going to have to specialize his platform to meet the constraints of a faction. Which scares me.
I think this made sense. It's 2am and i'm super fucking tired. Apologies if it didn't.
No I think you're pretty right on which is what gives Scott Walker a shot if he can pick up Carson's and Huckabee's support over Trump.
Walker is walking the line with his 20-week abortion ban. The ban helps and no exception for rape or incest helps with that faction too, but his unwillingness to go for the full Monty with no exception for the health of the mother may be enough for many of them to just stay home or consolidate around either Huckabee or Carson.
I'm so sad we haven't had debates already but I simply can't wait for that first one to get here.
Carson is dead in the water, IMO. No experience, no momentum, nothing particularly interesting about his platform. I honestly think Huckabee has just tossed his name in the mix so that his eventual endorsement has more weight. His spending is pretty low compared to other candidates. He knows how to run a campaign, if he were serious, he would be more aggressive with fundraising/spending.
Walker really hits the traditional conservative demo, but he also has some crossover into the religious right. His stances on LGBT rights and women's rights will net him some votes with that crowd. I think his biggest danger is his stance on unions. He risks losing a good chunk of Rust Belt votes with his voting record. I mean, he would never win those states in the general, but hey, in the primary, every vote counts.
I think you are underestimating Carson's support.He raised a lot of his money from small donations a $50 average according to his campaign. He's strictly selling his book and enhancing his speaking fees with this run but if Huckabee drops out early it's possible he holds on to the evangelicals long enough to smother Walker under Jeb's bush money and inevitable ads.
Trump is going to demolish all the other candidates in the rust belt. His main credentials center on deal making which is exactly what the right is looking for in that area, a deal that brings jobs to America. More importantly he's a master at doublespeak so he'll be able to out hard bargain Walker rhetorically but still convince the rust belt he's going to get them a job.
On July 21 2015 13:19 Djzapz wrote: People don't understand that the ability to tap into a vein of wealth (or, in the case of Trump, having been born in an empire which has been dwindling under him) does not necessarily translate well to politics. How is a man who's always had everything he ever wanted and never did proper politic going to fare in Washington. There, he'll fail at using diplomacy and run against a wall when congress won't put up with his shit. He'll try to bully people and fail. And if his speeches are any indication of his cognitive capabilities, foreign politics are going to be very ****ing hard for him.
However hard it may be for trump, it would still look like a streamlined vision of the future compared to Greece.
If doing better than Greece is your benchmark... well, you really have set the bar low. Also, watch Trump piss off the Chinese. I wonder how long the US will do better than Greece if China starts fucking with it...
Y'know, I think Trump is done for. The only reason he hasn't been properly nuked yet is because none of the other candidates are willing to be the one to get rid of him. They're all eyeing each other, and none of them want to put any money towards this joke of a candidate. They're just waiting and hoping he'll self implode and save everyone else the trouble.
Trump definitely has shit under the rug. It's just a question of when it comes out.
There is already so much shit on Trump and that's not doing much. Throwing more on the pile wont do much unless it is actually a big scandal (which is unlike)
On July 21 2015 22:36 Gorsameth wrote: There is already so much shit on Trump and that's not doing much. Throwing more on the pile wont do much unless it is actually a big scandal (which is unlike)
Trump is surviving because he hasn't been tested at all. His entire public opinion is based off of limited public appearances that he can control and manipulate.
Once the election cycle really gets underway and debates start, then he'll be forced to reveal how utterly clueless he is on both domestic and foreign policy, and people will ignore the "refreshing" quality of how much of a dick he is and realize that he is just a terrible human being and would ruin this country.
"Four times, I said, he (John McCain) is a hero, but you know ... people choose selective pieces."
Is listed as mostly false with the reason being "Pot calling the kettle black". I thought the point was to made factual assessments of politician statements. Either he said it 4 times or he didn't. Pot/Kettle should not come into it.
LOL that Chevy one. Yeah, there are barely any Chevys in Japan, but not because GM make shitty cars. Nah son, it's because Japan has such a high import tax on foreign cars. The tax gets higher with displacement also, which rules out a lot of their big block offerings.
There are also not that many (real) Chevis in europe. You know why? The average american car is just not very practical on streets that aren't built with them in mind . Judging from what i have seen your lanes seem to be about 50% broader than the average ones in Switzerland and same goes for parking fields
A call to the number went to voicemail, which played a recording of a woman's voice saying the number belonged to Graham. Graham spokeswoman Brittany Bramell confirmed it was the senator's number, and his campaign blasted Trump's tactic.
A call to the number went to voicemail, which played a recording of a woman's voice saying the number belonged to Graham. Graham spokeswoman Brittany Bramell confirmed it was the senator's number, and his campaign blasted Trump's tactic.
That's hilarious
That's actually classier than I thought his response would be.
On July 22 2015 01:06 whatisthisasheep wrote: In alot of ways, Trump is already president by dictating what issues media and politicians are required to speak upon.
I'm starting to think Trump is still a liberal who is trying to destroy his enemy from the inside on behalf of his good ol' democratic friends. Pretty much every word that comes out of his mouth is some pseudo-intellectual, hyperbolic, unfounded garbage. Won't hold up under real scrutiny.
Plus, it's simply a matter of time until he says something else really stupid that pisses off the GoP again...
A call to the number went to voicemail, which played a recording of a woman's voice saying the number belonged to Graham. Graham spokeswoman Brittany Bramell confirmed it was the senator's number, and his campaign blasted Trump's tactic.
That's hilarious
Literally doxed another candidate on live TV. Might as well just told everyone which school Graham's grand kids went to and read their grades out loud. The man is a nightmare given form. We went through 8 years of people who had zero respect for government under Bush, I don't think the country going that route again.
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