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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 19 2015 03:59 GMT
#42281
On July 19 2015 12:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.


Is Canada not on twitter?

We know your nicknames. We just don't give a nickname to all of our shit.

It must be a cultural thing or something.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 04:08:32
July 19 2015 04:08 GMT
#42282
I wouldnt exactly call some random hashtag a nickname.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 19 2015 04:13 GMT
#42283
On July 19 2015 13:08 DannyJ wrote:
I wouldnt exactly call some random hashtag a nickname.

https://www.google.com/search?q=feel the bern
Average means I'm better than half of you.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23173 Posts
July 19 2015 04:19 GMT
#42284
On July 19 2015 13:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 13:08 DannyJ wrote:
I wouldnt exactly call some random hashtag a nickname.

https://www.google.com/search?q=feel the bern


Maybe slogan? but it's really just a hashtag primarily
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 19 2015 04:27 GMT
#42285
On July 19 2015 13:19 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 13:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On July 19 2015 13:08 DannyJ wrote:
I wouldnt exactly call some random hashtag a nickname.

https://www.google.com/search?q=feel the bern


Maybe slogan? but it's really just a hashtag primarily

Well, whatever you call it, it's still about turning everything into a massive commercial/media spectacle. Especially things that should not be. Like scandals and criminals.

Or pre-elections.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1057 Posts
July 19 2015 07:28 GMT
#42286
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 08:24:45
July 19 2015 08:00 GMT
#42287
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.



Oh yay! I forgot this part of the political season is going to bring to us all sorts of people who don't follow politics very closely.


FUN FACT: The Pledge of Allegiance was written by A Baptist Socialist (Scary conspiracies abound!), who also left God out of the original version ("Under God" wasn't added until 1954).

Seriously though Sanders just made Trump look like a jackass after the Fire Dept in Phoenix said Bernie easily had 2 maybe 3 times as many people in Phoenix.

He's about to be in Houston, Texas where he's going to have another huge rally. The crowds are diverse and every day we have hundreds of convert posts.

Bernie stumbled a bit at Netroots Nation, but looks like he is going to be alright once he tunes his speech a bit more. Plus I gotta get my ass to work in communities of color to help him out there.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
July 19 2015 08:03 GMT
#42288
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.

Bernie would be the first Jewish, and non-Christian, president

Agreed on her being a woman though. She'll win big time with 20 something SJW women who control online media to a disproportionate degree
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1057 Posts
July 19 2015 08:33 GMT
#42289
On July 19 2015 17:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.



Oh yay! I forgot this part of the political season is going to bring to us all sorts of people who don't follow politics very closely.


FUN FACT: The Pledge of Allegiance was written by A Baptist Socialist (Scary conspiracies abound!), who also left God out of the original version ("Under God" wasn't added until 1954).

Yes, and those people vote. That's why Sanders will not win. People don't care about history (that some socialists have done things for this country in the past) or reality (that the United States already uses many forms of socialism and has for hundreds of years). They care about hype and image. Being a self-proclaimed socialist is anti-hype and is a terrible identity in American politics. Unless you plan on being able to educate more than 50% of voters (at least in certain key states), the Sanders train will get derailed.

After the 2004 election, I asked a well-educated woman who had graduated from a prestigious university many years before why she voted for GW Bush the second time around. The answer, "He created all these problems, he should be the one to have to fix them."

Good luck with educating people.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 08:38:49
July 19 2015 08:35 GMT
#42290
On July 19 2015 17:03 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.

Bernie would be the first Jewish, and non-Christian, president

Agreed on her being a woman though. She'll win big time with 20 something SJW women who control online media to a disproportionate degree


One of my favorite lines he added recently was something to the effect "I love the Pope.... People are talking about my radical views on economics.... You think I'm radical you should listen to that guy"

On July 19 2015 17:33 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 17:00 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.



Oh yay! I forgot this part of the political season is going to bring to us all sorts of people who don't follow politics very closely.


FUN FACT: The Pledge of Allegiance was written by A Baptist Socialist (Scary conspiracies abound!), who also left God out of the original version ("Under God" wasn't added until 1954).

Yes, and those people vote. That's why Sanders will not win. People don't care about history (that some socialists have done things for this country in the past) or reality (that the United States already uses many forms of socialism and has for hundreds of years). They care about hype and image. Being a self-proclaimed socialist is anti-hype and is a terrible identity in American politics. Unless you plan on being able to educate more than 50% of voters (at least in certain key states), the Sanders train will get derailed.

After the 2004 election, I asked a well-educated woman who had graduated from a prestigious university many years before why she voted for GW Bush the second time around. The answer, "He created all these problems, he should be the one to have to fix them."

Good luck with educating people.


Yeah it ain't easy but were making headway, now most people feel silly after they realize he's a "Democratic Socialist" and that there is a difference. Not all, but we're getting there.

Moreover, the more people listen to him the more they like him.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 19 2015 10:09 GMT
#42291
On July 19 2015 17:03 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.

Bernie would be the first Jewish, and non-Christian, president

Agreed on her being a woman though. She'll win big time with 20 something SJW women who control online media to a disproportionate degree

el oh el
TL+ Member
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 19 2015 15:41 GMT
#42292
On July 19 2015 05:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 03:19 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 18 2015 02:48 Velr wrote:
Romney got trashed because he was too rich friendly.

So... How would Trump not get trashed? He is everything Romney was by a factor of 10.


Romney tried to hide his wealth and the far-left progressives ate him alive with the whole 1% thing.

Trump comes along and says "I'M RICH BITCH! AND I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUK ABOUT SAYING IT!" Everything the far-left did to Romney isn't going to work here because Trump is appealing, rightly so, to the people who are sick and tired of politicians being bought off. Trump might be "crazy" but if it's the sort of "crazy" that makes him telling special interest to eat a dick because he's going to do shit his way, hen I'm not sure how that's a bad thing.

Now I hear John McCain is complaining that he is 'firing up the crazies'. If John McCain's is against Trump then I'm convinced Trump is doing something right.


McCain might have been unfit to run for president, but Trump is unfit and an absolute asshole:
"Mr. Trump said of Mr. McCain, a prisoner of war in Vietnam: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”"
~ http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/us/politics/trump-belittles-mccains-war-record.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
In other news, didn't Trump dodge Vietnam? I'm unaware of any time he fought or trained in the military. He should at least show some respect.



The word sacrifice isn't in Trump's vocabulary.
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
July 19 2015 15:56 GMT
#42293
On July 20 2015 00:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 05:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 18 2015 03:19 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 18 2015 02:48 Velr wrote:
Romney got trashed because he was too rich friendly.

So... How would Trump not get trashed? He is everything Romney was by a factor of 10.


Romney tried to hide his wealth and the far-left progressives ate him alive with the whole 1% thing.

Trump comes along and says "I'M RICH BITCH! AND I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUK ABOUT SAYING IT!" Everything the far-left did to Romney isn't going to work here because Trump is appealing, rightly so, to the people who are sick and tired of politicians being bought off. Trump might be "crazy" but if it's the sort of "crazy" that makes him telling special interest to eat a dick because he's going to do shit his way, hen I'm not sure how that's a bad thing.

Now I hear John McCain is complaining that he is 'firing up the crazies'. If John McCain's is against Trump then I'm convinced Trump is doing something right.


McCain might have been unfit to run for president, but Trump is unfit and an absolute asshole:
"Mr. Trump said of Mr. McCain, a prisoner of war in Vietnam: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”"
~ http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/us/politics/trump-belittles-mccains-war-record.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
In other news, didn't Trump dodge Vietnam? I'm unaware of any time he fought or trained in the military. He should at least show some respect.



The word sacrifice isn't in Trump's vocabulary.


He only knows the word donation - the sacrifice of his money.
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 16:47:08
July 19 2015 16:08 GMT
#42294
Trump responded to the backlash over his McCain comments and thrashed Rick Perry is the process.

The sad part is that Trump is right about McCain not taking care of veterans.

Here is an perfect example of McCain's ineptitude

Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44221 Posts
July 19 2015 16:17 GMT
#42295
On July 20 2015 00:56 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 19 2015 05:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 18 2015 03:19 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 18 2015 02:48 Velr wrote:
Romney got trashed because he was too rich friendly.

So... How would Trump not get trashed? He is everything Romney was by a factor of 10.


Romney tried to hide his wealth and the far-left progressives ate him alive with the whole 1% thing.

Trump comes along and says "I'M RICH BITCH! AND I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUK ABOUT SAYING IT!" Everything the far-left did to Romney isn't going to work here because Trump is appealing, rightly so, to the people who are sick and tired of politicians being bought off. Trump might be "crazy" but if it's the sort of "crazy" that makes him telling special interest to eat a dick because he's going to do shit his way, hen I'm not sure how that's a bad thing.

Now I hear John McCain is complaining that he is 'firing up the crazies'. If John McCain's is against Trump then I'm convinced Trump is doing something right.


McCain might have been unfit to run for president, but Trump is unfit and an absolute asshole:
"Mr. Trump said of Mr. McCain, a prisoner of war in Vietnam: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”"
~ http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/us/politics/trump-belittles-mccains-war-record.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
In other news, didn't Trump dodge Vietnam? I'm unaware of any time he fought or trained in the military. He should at least show some respect.



The word sacrifice isn't in Trump's vocabulary.


He only knows the word donation - the sacrifice of his money.


I think it'd be interesting to see what happens if he continues to ruffle Republican feathers. I want him to say "Reagan sucks" next.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 23:16:17
July 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#42296
On July 20 2015 01:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2015 00:56 killa_robot wrote:
On July 20 2015 00:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 19 2015 05:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 18 2015 03:19 whatisthisasheep wrote:
On July 18 2015 02:48 Velr wrote:
Romney got trashed because he was too rich friendly.

So... How would Trump not get trashed? He is everything Romney was by a factor of 10.


Romney tried to hide his wealth and the far-left progressives ate him alive with the whole 1% thing.

Trump comes along and says "I'M RICH BITCH! AND I DON'T GIVE A FUUUUUK ABOUT SAYING IT!" Everything the far-left did to Romney isn't going to work here because Trump is appealing, rightly so, to the people who are sick and tired of politicians being bought off. Trump might be "crazy" but if it's the sort of "crazy" that makes him telling special interest to eat a dick because he's going to do shit his way, hen I'm not sure how that's a bad thing.

Now I hear John McCain is complaining that he is 'firing up the crazies'. If John McCain's is against Trump then I'm convinced Trump is doing something right.


McCain might have been unfit to run for president, but Trump is unfit and an absolute asshole:
"Mr. Trump said of Mr. McCain, a prisoner of war in Vietnam: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”"
~ http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/19/us/politics/trump-belittles-mccains-war-record.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
In other news, didn't Trump dodge Vietnam? I'm unaware of any time he fought or trained in the military. He should at least show some respect.



The word sacrifice isn't in Trump's vocabulary.


He only knows the word donation - the sacrifice of his money.


I think it'd be interesting to see what happens if he continues to ruffle Republican feathers. I want him to say "Reagan sucks" next.


The man is the real Teflon Don. I'm going to be surprised if he doesn't have a bigger lead after the debate.

Meanwhile in Dallas...



With another Rally coming in Houston in less than an hour.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
July 19 2015 23:38 GMT
#42297
On July 19 2015 17:03 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.

Bernie would be the first Jewish, and non-Christian, president

Agreed on her being a woman though. She'll win big time with 20 something SJW women who control online media to a disproportionate degree

Is there something SJWs did not ruin or bring under their control yet?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23173 Posts
July 19 2015 23:40 GMT
#42298
On July 20 2015 08:38 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2015 17:03 Chocolate wrote:
On July 19 2015 16:28 RenSC2 wrote:
On July 19 2015 12:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
...#FeelTheBern...

Really?

I'm beyond happy that your media's rabid desire to give a nickname to absolutely everything has not crossed the border. Our scandals don't have gates, our murderers have names, and our politicians are treated like politicians.

Are you trying to start #FeelTheBern-gate? Yeah, our media is pretty obnoxious. I hate all the hashtags in legitimate media, I hate that every scandal is a gate or ghazi, and that every minor natural occurrence is some form of Armageddon.

As far as Sanders, I don't really give him much of a chance of getting out of the primaries and even less of a chance in a general election. He's a self-proclaimed socialist. He'll get ripped to shreds if people start paying attention to him. It doesn't matter that almost all candidates in both parties believe in some form of socialism, you can't claim to be a socialist and win in America right now. There's too many people who "fought against socialism" and there's no way they're going to sit by as a "socialist" becomes president. People will gladly vote against their own interests based on biases and stupidity.

Sanders is still below 20% with Clinton well over 50%. If he starts to actually challenge her, Clinton just needs to remind the voters that she has a vagina and she'll get a huge amount of votes as people try to elect the first woman president. That's a hype train that people can get behind. Electing the first socialist? Not so much.

As far as Trump goes, as I've heard, he's nobody's second choice. If Rubio goes out of the race, his supporters will flock to Bush or vice versa. I would guess the same would be true with Walker. Maybe Trump can pick up some Christie or Cruz voters; however, even that's doubtful. If Trump eviscerates your favorite candidate and then your candidate leaves the race, would you jump aboard the Trumptanic? I would doubt it. He's going to make a lot of noise and get a lot of attention, but as the field narrows, he'll hit that iceberg.

Bernie would be the first Jewish, and non-Christian, president

Agreed on her being a woman though. She'll win big time with 20 something SJW women who control online media to a disproportionate degree

Is there something SJWs did not ruin or bring under their control yet?


roflmao, yup it was the SJW's who screwed up the model society we had...
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
July 19 2015 23:46 GMT
#42299
On July 20 2015 01:08 whatisthisasheep wrote:
The sad part is that Trump is right about McCain not taking care of veterans.

He's right on both counts, but you're still not supposed to say it about someone who got tortured. Plus you're not supposed to say it when it pisses off the same people who actually like your anti-latino stuff.
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Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-19 23:56:52
July 19 2015 23:56 GMT
#42300
Noob question, but what is SJWs?
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