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On November 16 2012 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:51 empty.bottle wrote:On November 16 2012 04:50 Noam wrote:
Don't you mean GOD THANK YOU FOR BUILDING FENCES AROUND ISRAEL? I would never thank god for that. stop 8ting. just wipe yourself off the earth. Get off this forum man. Comments like this help no-one. Everyone else, regardless of who they are, are trying to have a civil debate. Places like this are where public opinion is formed nowadays, so people are going to argue their case passionately. If you don't like it, get off the internet and talk to some people IRL like that, and see where it gets you.
I would agree with this assertion.
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On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever.
unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements.
so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager.
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On November 16 2012 05:01 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever. unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager.
Yeah, Israel using phosphorus bomb on civilians, and bombing the UN agency in gaza. Shit is real man, it's all self defense because they are "anti semite".
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On November 16 2012 05:01 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever. unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager.
Actually it was White Phosphorus dropped on the UN sanctioned hospital, in case you were curious  Just to add that, which is ruled against the laws of war governed internationally, in case anyone was curious 
Also let's not forget the flotilla executions where an American was executed as cited by the UN point blank along with other Turkish Muslims.
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On November 16 2012 04:58 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:56 sevencck wrote:On November 16 2012 04:45 Qikz wrote:
My step family just moved over from Israel and it's not since listening to them and my Dad who'd worked in Israel for the past 5 years when you realise how pro-palestine the western media actually is.
I don't condone violence in any sense of the word, but firing retaliatory rockets at military targets after they get missiles thrown at civillian areas I have little to no problem with.
Israel and the problems in Palestine wouldn't even be this bad had the Allies after WW2 set up Israel better. The governments back then have killed so many more people, innocent people, than they saved. :/ This is absolutely wrong. I frankly have very little patience remaining for either side in this conflict, but the Western media is absolutely not biased in favor of any part of the Muslim world. Maybe not in Canada
Right, cause in Canada we know nothing of the News being reported in other countries. Canada is one of the most liberal places on Earth in terms of multiculturalism and non-biased journalism. If Canada and the U.K. aren't biased in favor of the Muslim world, you can be sure the U.S. isn't. There is a clear bias against the Muslim world in the U.S. journalism. France is also becoming increasingly right wing in terms of its religious tolerance particularly with respect to Islam. Sorry, but there is a clear bias against Islam in the Western media, and certainly not one in favor of it.
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It feels so dumb to me that Isreal is bombing Palestine, what are they doing there anyway, what good are they doing?
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On November 16 2012 05:01 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever. unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager.
Don't even bother. I tried that earlier, but actually not one guy from israel here will actually hear.
If a number is in their favor, they will gladly accept it - if it is not, they will disregard it as "stupid numbers game". Pretty much through the whole thread.
For the protocol: i think Israel is dangerous. Not just for palestine.
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On November 16 2012 05:04 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 05:01 heliusx wrote:On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever. unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager. Actually it was White Phosphorus dropped on the UN sanctioned hospital, in case you were curious Just to add that, which is ruled against the laws of war governed internationally, in case anyone was curious
You're so pro palestinians I'm sick of it man.
Yes I am joking.
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hope there will be peave one day.
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On November 16 2012 05:05 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 05:04 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On November 16 2012 05:01 heliusx wrote:On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever. unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager. Actually it was White Phosphorus dropped on the UN sanctioned hospital, in case you were curious Just to add that, which is ruled against the laws of war governed internationally, in case anyone was curious You're so pro palestinians I'm sick of it man.
Sorry I didn't know making a correction as to which type of bombs dropped and that they're banned by the Geneva Convention is "pro-Palestinian". Well, if that's the case, I'm pro-palestinian all day if we're to ban the use of deadly chemicals on hospitals. Name me all you want!
EDIT: Nevermind, you were joking : P Maybe English (since your French) isn't your first language but it didn't have that sarcastic edge to it hahahaha
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On November 16 2012 04:51 empty.bottle wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:50 Noam wrote:
Don't you mean GOD THANK YOU FOR BUILDING FENCES AROUND ISRAEL? I would never thank god for that. stop 8ting. just wipe yourself off the earth.
How come when people bring this topic up people like this come out of their holes?
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On November 16 2012 05:04 derpface wrote:
It feels so dumb to me that Isreal is bombing Palestine, what are they doing there anyway, what good are they doing?
They are showing their military capabilities to everyone in the region. They are making sure they protect their people ahead of election against the bad guys, you know it's THEM! And they are once again disregarding the rest of the world by proving that they can do whatever the hell they want.
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you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children
When did this happen? Do you mean when Hamas leaders hid in the basements of the Gaza hospital during Operation Cast Lead and Israel never once bombed it?
and blowing up police stations
A police station is a legitimate military target, wanna cry some more about it?
how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements.
Israel destroys the homes of terrorists or homes used as weapons depots or tunnel entrances, or homes that soldiers were fired upon from. And what people are getting run over except arch-idiot Rachel Corrie?
unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable.
The overwhelming majority of Palestinians killed under the age of 18 were and are male teenagers engaging in combat with IDF forces. Boo-hoo.
both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting.
Yeah, Israel has completely dehumanized the Palestinians when the main source of medical care for wounded Palestinians is IDF medical teams and Israeli hospitals. Yup. Sure.
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On November 16 2012 05:06 yosisoy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:51 empty.bottle wrote:On November 16 2012 04:50 Noam wrote:
Don't you mean GOD THANK YOU FOR BUILDING FENCES AROUND ISRAEL? I would never thank god for that. stop 8ting. just wipe yourself off the earth. How come when people bring this topic up people like this come out of their holes?
Well it's actually good, we get to have mods eventually find the comments and ban them. Works on both sides but this comment is definitely ridiculous at the very least.
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On November 16 2012 05:06 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 05:05 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 05:04 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On November 16 2012 05:01 heliusx wrote:On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever. unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. both sides have completely dehumanized the other and it's disgusting. yeah hamas&co do some fucked up shit but so do you. you know like dropping bombs on hospitals full of children and blowing up police stations or how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. so stop acting like Israel is a good guy because they are not. you also completely leave out the fact that the recent tit for tats started with the idf killing a teenager. Actually it was White Phosphorus dropped on the UN sanctioned hospital, in case you were curious Just to add that, which is ruled against the laws of war governed internationally, in case anyone was curious You're so pro palestinians I'm sick of it man. Sorry I didn't know making a correction as to which type of bombs dropped and that they're banned by the Geneva Convention is "pro-Palestinian". Well, if that's the case, I'm pro-palestinian all day if we're to ban the use of deadly chemicals on hospitals. Name me all you want! EDIT: Nevermind, you were joking : P Maybe English (since your French) isn't your first language but it didn't have that sarcastic edge to it hahahaha
sarcasm fail ?
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the most sickening thing is that this killing and the soon to follow offensive on the gaza strip is a ploy from the prime minister to get more votes at the next election, how many dead palestine civilians is one israeli vote worth?
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On November 16 2012 05:07 DeepElemBlues wrote:When did this happen? Do you mean when Hamas leaders hid in the basements of the Gaza hospital during Operation Cast Lead and Israel never once bombed it? A police station is a legitimate military target, wanna cry some more about it? Show nested quote +how about running over people with tanks so you can bulldoze their home to make settlements. Israel destroys the homes of terrorists or homes used as weapons depots or tunnel entrances, or homes that soldiers were fired upon from. And what people are getting run over except arch-idiot Rachel Corrie? Show nested quote +unless they are one of the 1,400 Palestinian children blown up into pieces, then it's totally acceptable. The overwhelming majority of Palestinians killed under the age of 18 were and are male teenagers engaging in combat with IDF forces. Boo-hoo. Yeah, Israel has completely dehumanized the Palestinians when the main source of medical care for wounded Palestinians is IDF medical teams and Israeli hospitals. Yup. Sure.
Sorry are we both talking about the same Israel and the same Palestine? "Isreal destroys homes of terrorists"? Do you know about any of the relocations?
And a majority of deaths are actually women and children cited by the UN and Red Cross... A massive majority are killed in their homes during bombing strikes.
It's like reality just doesn't compute on some situations.
Also I liked your "main source" while the IDF has been known to block medical help (note the Red Cross) on numerous occassions from getting into the wreckage of a airstrike by the IDF. Also note since the hospitals are being blown up it's troublesome for them to fix their wounded now isn't it?
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On November 16 2012 05:04 sevencck wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:58 Catch]22 wrote:On November 16 2012 04:56 sevencck wrote:On November 16 2012 04:45 Qikz wrote:
My step family just moved over from Israel and it's not since listening to them and my Dad who'd worked in Israel for the past 5 years when you realise how pro-palestine the western media actually is.
I don't condone violence in any sense of the word, but firing retaliatory rockets at military targets after they get missiles thrown at civillian areas I have little to no problem with.
Israel and the problems in Palestine wouldn't even be this bad had the Allies after WW2 set up Israel better. The governments back then have killed so many more people, innocent people, than they saved. :/ This is absolutely wrong. I frankly have very little patience remaining for either side in this conflict, but the Western media is absolutely not biased in favor of any part of the Muslim world. Maybe not in Canada Right, cause in Canada we know nothing of the News being reported in other countries. Canada is one of the most liberal places on Earth in terms of multiculturalism and non-biased journalism. If Canada and the U.K. aren't biased in favor of the Muslim world, you can be sure the U.S. isn't. There is a clear bias against the Muslim world in the U.S. journalism. France is also becoming increasingly right wing in terms of its religious tolerance particularly with respect to Islam. Sorry, but there is a clear bias against Islam in the Western media, and certainly not one in favor of it.
I tought france is almost muslim these days
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Actually it was White Phosphorus dropped on the UN sanctioned hospital, in case you were curious Just to add that, which is ruled against the laws of war governed internationally, in case anyone was curious
White phosphorus isn't against the laws of war, sorry. In case anyone was curious.
And Hamas used hospitals as mortar-firing sites and command-and-control centers. Under international law, a protected target becomes unprotected when one side uses it for a military purpose, and responsibility for damage to it falls on those who used it as a military position. The Israeli shelling of the UNRWA headquarters and adjoining hospital was a response to fire from those positions.
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On November 16 2012 05:13 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 05:04 sevencck wrote:On November 16 2012 04:58 Catch]22 wrote:On November 16 2012 04:56 sevencck wrote:On November 16 2012 04:45 Qikz wrote:
My step family just moved over from Israel and it's not since listening to them and my Dad who'd worked in Israel for the past 5 years when you realise how pro-palestine the western media actually is.
I don't condone violence in any sense of the word, but firing retaliatory rockets at military targets after they get missiles thrown at civillian areas I have little to no problem with.
Israel and the problems in Palestine wouldn't even be this bad had the Allies after WW2 set up Israel better. The governments back then have killed so many more people, innocent people, than they saved. :/ This is absolutely wrong. I frankly have very little patience remaining for either side in this conflict, but the Western media is absolutely not biased in favor of any part of the Muslim world. Maybe not in Canada Right, cause in Canada we know nothing of the News being reported in other countries. Canada is one of the most liberal places on Earth in terms of multiculturalism and non-biased journalism. If Canada and the U.K. aren't biased in favor of the Muslim world, you can be sure the U.S. isn't. There is a clear bias against the Muslim world in the U.S. journalism. France is also becoming increasingly right wing in terms of its religious tolerance particularly with respect to Islam. Sorry, but there is a clear bias against Islam in the Western media, and certainly not one in favor of it. I tought france is almost muslim these days
That's how backlashes work. The movement against Muslims in France came as a result of a growing muslim population.
Unfortunately most people are conditioned to only understand their own way of life, so when something comes along that is as different as Islam is from regular western society, fear spreads, and movements grow etc.
France is in the middle of this now.
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