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On November 16 2012 04:32 TheRealArtemis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:29 mrRoflpwn wrote:On November 16 2012 04:27 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:24 Goozen wrote:On November 16 2012 04:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Basically it's Israel election soon and bombing Palestinians is good for Netanyahou. Almost the whole political spectrum has rallied around him for this, 120 rockets in 2 days dosnt go without response. Its surprising that they did do this with elections coming up. Yeah 120 shitty rockets that destroys the side walk. Of course all the political spectrum has rallied around him since being against the bombing is political suicide in this war monger country. Exactly- i hate how people see the word rockests fired and assume they are american military grade missiles- the rockets the militants fire can barely damage the roof of a house... I dont get people like you. their rockets are meant to kill and harm people. doesnt matter if they actually hit anything. its the act itself.
Absolutely wrong.
If Hamas fires 120 rockets at Israel, knowing that only 2-3 will hit, and then Israel fires 10 in response, all of which will hit, which side has done more damage. As i said earlier, intentions mean nothing, war is about results.
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Oh indeed, pro-palestinian media is so strong in both usa and europe.
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Educate yourself
Year / Kills / Numbers of rockets
2001 / 1 / 4
2002 / 1 / 35
2003 / 1 / 155
2004 / 5 / 281
2005 / 6 / 401
2006 / 9 / 1,722
2007 / 10 / 1,276
2008 / 15 / 2,048
2009 / 2 / 569
2010 / 5 / 150
2011 / 3 / 419
2012 / 3 / 32
From 2001 to 2012, 51 casualties due to rockets. Mass murder man, it's less than the numbers of dead in brooklyn in a month.
And the rockets are :
34% – Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Al Quds)
22% – Hamas (Qassam)
8% – Fatah (Kafah)
6% – Popular Resistance Committees (al Nasser)
30% – unknown
You hear that ? 30 % UNKNOWN, and still Israel is targetting the mastermind behind the rockets. LOLMAO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
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On November 16 2012 04:34 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:32 TheRealArtemis wrote:On November 16 2012 04:29 mrRoflpwn wrote:On November 16 2012 04:27 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:24 Goozen wrote:On November 16 2012 04:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Basically it's Israel election soon and bombing Palestinians is good for Netanyahou. Almost the whole political spectrum has rallied around him for this, 120 rockets in 2 days dosnt go without response. Its surprising that they did do this with elections coming up. Yeah 120 shitty rockets that destroys the side walk. Of course all the political spectrum has rallied around him since being against the bombing is political suicide in this war monger country. Exactly- i hate how people see the word rockests fired and assume they are american military grade missiles- the rockets the militants fire can barely damage the roof of a house... I dont get people like you. their rockets are meant to kill and harm people. doesnt matter if they actually hit anything. its the act itself. Absolutely wrong. If Hamas fires 120 rockets at Israel, knowing that only 2-3 will hit, and then Israel fires 10 in response, all of which will hit, which side has done more damage. As i said earlier, intentions mean nothing, war is about results.
So perhaps we should stop using the iron dome defense system then so that we can "legitimately" fire more? Hamas dont know how many will hit when they fire, its that each rocket will cause anywhere between 100-300,000 people to run for cover.
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On November 15 2012 10:48 ppshchik wrote:
Job well done Israel for killing this terrorist scum.
Ah, and here I was thinking I didn't get my dose of "yep, americans really are down right retarded" today.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 16 2012 04:29 mrRoflpwn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:27 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:24 Goozen wrote:On November 16 2012 04:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Basically it's Israel election soon and bombing Palestinians is good for Netanyahou. Almost the whole political spectrum has rallied around him for this, 120 rockets in 2 days dosnt go without response. Its surprising that they did do this with elections coming up. Yeah 120 shitty rockets that destroys the side walk. Of course all the political spectrum has rallied around him since being against the bombing is political suicide in this war monger country. Exactly- i hate how people see the word rockests fired and assume they are american military grade missiles- the rockets the militants fire can barely damage the roof of a house...
So we're comparing targeted strikes with the indiscriminate missles launched by an organization that actively targets civilians?
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Israel2209 Posts
On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one
On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets.
Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information.
Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please.
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Shit is escalating very fast.... 12/12/12 anyone? hehe
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On November 16 2012 04:34 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:32 TheRealArtemis wrote:On November 16 2012 04:29 mrRoflpwn wrote:On November 16 2012 04:27 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:24 Goozen wrote:On November 16 2012 04:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Basically it's Israel election soon and bombing Palestinians is good for Netanyahou. Almost the whole political spectrum has rallied around him for this, 120 rockets in 2 days dosnt go without response. Its surprising that they did do this with elections coming up. Yeah 120 shitty rockets that destroys the side walk. Of course all the political spectrum has rallied around him since being against the bombing is political suicide in this war monger country. Exactly- i hate how people see the word rockests fired and assume they are american military grade missiles- the rockets the militants fire can barely damage the roof of a house... I dont get people like you. their rockets are meant to kill and harm people. doesnt matter if they actually hit anything. its the act itself. Absolutely wrong. If Hamas fires 120 rockets at Israel, knowing that only 2-3 will hit, and then Israel fires 10 in response, all of which will hit, which side has done more damage. As i said earlier, intentions mean nothing, war is about results.
International law would like to beg to presume to disagree with your assertion that intention means nothing.
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On November 16 2012 04:39 acidfreak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2012 10:48 ppshchik wrote:
Job well done Israel for killing this terrorist scum. Ah, and here I was thinking I didn't get my dose of "yep, americans really are down right retarded" today.
Ahmed Jaabari is no Mother Teresa.
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On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please.
51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Do you know how many Palestinians have been killed because of Israelians bombs ?
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On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:Educate yourself Year / Kills / Numbers of rockets 2001 / 1 / 4 2002 / 1 / 35 2003 / 1 / 155 2004 / 5 / 281 2005 / 6 / 401 2006 / 9 / 1,722 2007 / 10 / 1,276 2008 / 15 / 2,048 2009 / 2 / 569 2010 / 5 / 150 2011 / 3 / 419 2012 / 3 / 32 From 2001 to 2012, 51 casualties due to rockets. Mass murder man, it's less than the numbers of dead in brooklyn in a month. And the rockets are : 34% – Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Al Quds) 22% – Hamas (Qassam) 8% – Fatah (Kafah) 6% – Popular Resistance Committees (al Nasser) 30% – unknown You hear that ? 30 % UNKNOWN, and still Israel is targetting the mastermind behind the rockets. LOLMAO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
You start with "educate yourself"
You end with wikipedia quote.
The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
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On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:Educate yourself Year / Kills / Numbers of rockets 2001 / 1 / 4 2002 / 1 / 35 2003 / 1 / 155 2004 / 5 / 281 2005 / 6 / 401 2006 / 9 / 1,722 2007 / 10 / 1,276 2008 / 15 / 2,048 2009 / 2 / 569 2010 / 5 / 150 2011 / 3 / 419 2012 / 3 / 32
From 2001 to 2012, 51 casualties due to rockets. Mass murder man, it's less than the numbers of dead in brooklyn in a month.
And the rockets are :
34% – Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Al Quds)
22% – Hamas (Qassam)
8% – Fatah (Kafah)
6% – Popular Resistance Committees (al Nasser)
30% – unknown
You hear that ? 30 % UNKNOWN, and still Israel is targetting the mastermind behind the rockets. LOLMAO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel[/QUOTE]
Hamas rule gaza; ergo they are responsible and they allow it. The whole numbers game is dumb and its pointed out why so many times.
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On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ?
It's obvious that you do not. Lack of ability does not wipe out the intent to cause mass casualties.
Of course, you are one of the people who happily employs a double standard against Israel, so you simply do not care.
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Israel2209 Posts
On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ?
Of course I understand. 51 killed.
FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider.
Not a single death is accepted. Ever.
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On November 16 2012 04:43 acidfreak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:Educate yourself Year / Kills / Numbers of rockets 2001 / 1 / 4 2002 / 1 / 35 2003 / 1 / 155 2004 / 5 / 281 2005 / 6 / 401 2006 / 9 / 1,722 2007 / 10 / 1,276 2008 / 15 / 2,048 2009 / 2 / 569 2010 / 5 / 150 2011 / 3 / 419 2012 / 3 / 32 From 2001 to 2012, 51 casualties due to rockets. Mass murder man, it's less than the numbers of dead in brooklyn in a month. And the rockets are : 34% – Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Al Quds) 22% – Hamas (Qassam) 8% – Fatah (Kafah) 6% – Popular Resistance Committees (al Nasser) 30% – unknown You hear that ? 30 % UNKNOWN, and still Israel is targetting the mastermind behind the rockets. LOLMAO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel You start with "educate yourself" You end with wikipedia quote. The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
God are you for real? Do you even know that those numbers are released by Israel's defense ministery and they are pretty much the same as wiki...
On November 16 2012 04:44 Noam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Of course I understand. 51 killed.FIFTY ONE PEOPLE KILLED! Do you not understand that we do not accept a single death? We trade thousands of MURDERERS in exchange for one solider. Not a single death is accepted. Ever.
Thanks for showing us how dangerous Israel is.
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United Kingdom12032 Posts
My step family just moved over from Israel and it's not since listening to them and my Dad who'd worked in Israel for the past 5 years when you realise how pro-palestine the western media actually is.
I don't condone violence in any sense of the word, but firing retaliatory rockets at military targets after they get missiles thrown at civillian areas I have little to no problem with.
Israel and the problems in Palestine wouldn't even be this bad had the Allies after WW2 set up Israel better. The governments back then have killed so many more people, innocent people, than they saved. :/
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On November 16 2012 04:38 Goozen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:34 Jockmcplop wrote:On November 16 2012 04:32 TheRealArtemis wrote:On November 16 2012 04:29 mrRoflpwn wrote:On November 16 2012 04:27 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:24 Goozen wrote:On November 16 2012 04:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Basically it's Israel election soon and bombing Palestinians is good for Netanyahou. Almost the whole political spectrum has rallied around him for this, 120 rockets in 2 days dosnt go without response. Its surprising that they did do this with elections coming up. Yeah 120 shitty rockets that destroys the side walk. Of course all the political spectrum has rallied around him since being against the bombing is political suicide in this war monger country. Exactly- i hate how people see the word rockests fired and assume they are american military grade missiles- the rockets the militants fire can barely damage the roof of a house... I dont get people like you. their rockets are meant to kill and harm people. doesnt matter if they actually hit anything. its the act itself. Absolutely wrong. If Hamas fires 120 rockets at Israel, knowing that only 2-3 will hit, and then Israel fires 10 in response, all of which will hit, which side has done more damage. As i said earlier, intentions mean nothing, war is about results. So perhaps we should stop using the iron dome defense system then so that we can "legitimately" fire more? Hamas dont know how many will hit when they fire, its that each rocket will cause anywhere between 100-300,000 people to run for cover.
You are misunderstanding my point badly. The sheer number of missiles has nothing to do with anything, nor does the intentions. When all is said and done the only things that matter are the number of casualties, and as you said the effect that the threat of missiles has on a population.
I'm not claiming anything about legitimacy, and i'm not asking you to stop using the iron dome (i don't know where that came from) i'm simply saying that the numbers are both irrelevant and misleading when it comes to the number of rockets fired, its the effect of the rockets that is important. Like you said, sending people running for cover and scaring people is an effect of the missiles, and therefore it is relevant.
Surely you can't disagree with that.
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On November 16 2012 04:44 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? It's obvious that you do not. Lack of ability does not wipe out the intent to cause mass casualties. Of course, you are one of the people who happily employs a double standard against Israel, so you simply do not care.
It's not a question of intent. The question is : who is the dominant force in this "war", who trade 1 kill for a thousand. It's Israel.
They can make peace whenever they want, if actually they accepted to step back in anything.
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On November 16 2012 04:42 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2012 04:41 Noam wrote:On November 16 2012 04:28 mrRoflpwn wrote:
a couple rockets that kill pretty much no one On November 16 2012 04:36 WhiteDog wrote:
51 casualties due to rockets. Thank you for making my point for me WhiteDog, saved me the trouble to look up the information. Just leave out your commentary next time you post facts please. 51 killed in 11 years, do you even understand ? It's most likely less than murders in Israel during the same period man, do you understand what you are talking about ? Do you know how many Palestinians have been killed because of Israelians bombs ?
It's more than just rockets, you know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks#2000s
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