EPTGranted, I don't really look in the General forum, which seems to be where all the 'drama' happens, but it seems like the posts and threads in Brood War and Strategy are... bearable, to say the least.
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mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Granted, I don't really look in the General forum, which seems to be where all the 'drama' happens, but it seems like the posts and threads in Brood War and Strategy are... bearable, to say the least. | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
i dont know how much of this goes on through private messages, but i think that when considering a ban on a longtime member, the mods should at least communicate with the person a bit to get a feel for what's going on. sometimes people just have a bad day and take it out on tlnet, or they are being unintentionally offensive/useless, or whatever may be the case. if you can clarify to the person that what they're doing/did will not be tolerated and they are apologetic, then that is more useful than outright banning them. finally i regret that i havent presented myself better so that perhaps my opinion would hold more weight to the people in charge. i'd love to be an admin (or respected as much as one) but obviously i havent demonstrated myself appropriately, so im sorry im not contributing as much as i could have keep up the good work | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
But i always felt like you were doing a great job modding. He seems to think that I get some kind of charge out of it. He is wrong. In the end, this site is Team Liquid. I have to disagree here. This site is way past clan site level. It is the best community site on the net, at least when it comes to gaming. It is a national treasure! p.s.: i personally am very glad steve is banned. I felt that the only reason this asshole with Rekrul-sized Ego was still here is because hes friend with mods. It is good that noone is above the law!=D | ||
Insane
United States4991 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
I have said a shit load of things here, some not short of ethnic prejudice (though I think my problems with separtist French Canadians are justified), ideological predujice (yes Stimy I hate Emo kids, get over it), straight up unnecessary insults and the random racial balance (I hate PvZ) rant. Many of these things are hateful, redundant and downright unpreductive. However, since I articulate my arguements in a sound and intelligent way mods like Drone, Twisted, Rekrul, and even Cyric have put up with my shit. Not because they have to, or even because I make a good point. Mostly because they recognize that I care about the forums and any input I make is in some way working toward that. I think that's the problem with Stimy. Outside of the fact that he's been banned a gagillion times, many of the threads and posts he makes seem to undermine the quality of the community and our chosen forums. He has made many a thread (like the one Mani linked) that seem to have no point outside of bringing down the whole community as a bunch of no name bitches bending to the ways of the "powerful mods" who through their influence have immunity and complete control. As a user I feel I have all the control. If I didn't like it here, as Stimy evidently feels, I wouldn't come. And if the site sucked ass none of us would come and it would implode. I feel that I get special treatment as a regular member. I haven't been here since the beginning, but in terms of discussion and activity within the past 2 years, I'm up there. Perhaps this skews my perception of the site, but I say shit that in retrospect SHOULD get me banned at times. But since my personality is known and generally accepted I get away with dumb ass posts that I can later diminish or take back, because the good chaps here respect my devotion to the community, the game, and the people that make it great. Finally, as a person that takes every opporunity to insult the bitch SC "names" that try to ride their history as if it has anything to do with what they've done in the past 100 years, I appreciate Mani and his undying interest in SC and particularly Pro SC. We discuss each week's pro games in depth and we learn different things from each other every time. If it weren't for Mani and the people who contribute, care, and love the game I wouldn't visit this site at all. Stimy, you are obsessed with the politics and BS that come along with any forum...anywhere...anytime... You forgot why you're here man. Get over it and try to appreciate the things that drew you here in the first place. Mani embody's the SC fanatic that I am, and that I wish all you poker loving posers still were. Keep bringing the news Mani, and I'll be here to debate it at nausium with you.  TL.net rules, and I'll never leave until you assholes force me out. Look at me being a big man. Fuck you all, I'm tough and shit......am I banned yet? Oh well, guess I'm not as cool as Stimy. And yes, that is what I think of your rants. You're cool. You're a rebel. You're fighting for the people. We get it. Fuck off already. | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
Stimey should stay gone this time, since he was banned awhile ago. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
Personally it doesn't faze me. I have my own standard of behaviour, and occasionally I tresspass upon shameful ground, but generally my slip-ups are genuine slip-ups. There are obvious cases where a few people have nary any standard of behaviour, and any valuable contribution is the exception rather than the rule. Unfortunately, the behaviours of these people are likely to be more influential than the behaviours of the converted. Every kid loves the more liberal of his parents, and every celebrity distinguished by his lack of prudence shows everyone that there is little to be gained from self-moderation, but on the contrary, sometimes worthlessness is recognized and turned into celebrity. I don't understand why people love fakesteve, he is the first to admit his own worthlessness, but that's the kind of behaviour that will be perpectuated, left unchecked. | ||
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
Anyway, I'm not trying to say UNBAN STEVE or something. It's entirely your choice who you let on the site or not. And I will agree that he went out of hand there -.- Edit: The start of this post is not directed at mods btw, I mostly agree with what Twisted said, moderation-wise. | ||
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lastprobeALIVE
United States973 Posts
Honestly, steve should not be brought back, there was no reason to say fuck you. And if it was a joke, what a shitty joke. Oh and Trevor I thought this was funny, do you think people like you for your analysis? for your gaming? your personality? no, they like you for your time and money. it gets the job done in areas they don't want to bother with. but why do you need to put your time and money out here? life been unfair to you? I can say I am one person to answer yes to all his questions  | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 16 2006 23:41 NonY wrote: hmm, i'll take this opportunity to thank the mods for my two week ban. it taught me a lesson. if nazgul was pushing for a ban and eri saved my ass, then i want to say to naz that you made the right decision :O i think there are some times when people don't mean to be offensive, or they kind of gradually get more and more offensive/useless as they get used to posting at tlnet.. but there is always a point when a line is crossed and i think the proper punishment for that is a warning or temp ban. however if it's obvious that they're aware that they've crossed the line and have no intention of being reasonable, then a ban is absolutely appropriate i dont know how much of this goes on through private messages, but i think that when considering a ban on a longtime member, the mods should at least communicate with the person a bit to get a feel for what's going on. sometimes people just have a bad day and take it out on tlnet, or they are being unintentionally offensive/useless, or whatever may be the case. if you can clarify to the person that what they're doing/did will not be tolerated and they are apologetic, then that is more useful than outright banning them. finally i regret that i havent presented myself better so that perhaps my opinion would hold more weight to the people in charge. i'd love to be an admin (or respected as much as one) but obviously i havent demonstrated myself appropriately, so im sorry im not contributing as much as i could have keep up the good work I guess I missed it but what did you do that warranted a temp ban? | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
Anyone care to quote me a post from Fakesteve within the last month that's entertaining? | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On February 16 2006 23:59 HnR)Insane wrote: That's because people like FakeSteve come off as entertaining, whereas people who constantly talk about standards of behaviour, the converted, and how liking more liberal people is bad end up coming off as pompous asses. Edit: not directed at mods btw, I mostly agree with what Twisted said, moderation-wise. True. Although being a pompous ass is only a fault when one has nothing to be pompous about. In all other cases pompousness is honesty. Seriously though, I'd be interested to hear about fakesteve's entertainment value. It's about as entertaining as the dialogue of an average b.net spam channel. Nothing personal against fakesteve. | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On February 17 2006 00:13 tfeign wrote: Fakesteve is not funny nor entertaining. His inflated ego sucks and he doesn't know when to stfu. He spams more than Ekii. Anyone care to quote me a post from Fakesteve within the last month that's entertaining? On February 07 2006 02:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: ![[image loading]](http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3403/umok0wa.jpg) | ||
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
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omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
Edit: Stimey that is. Steve doesn't bother me. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On February 17 2006 00:18 tfeign wrote: Besides the paint topic? His text posts are all 90% spams. The thing is, when fakesteve is being an ass, he is usually joking or doesn't care. Imo you come off as much more of an asshole them him or most ppl in *some* of your posts;( | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On February 17 2006 00:18 tfeign wrote: Besides the paint topic? His text posts are all 90% spams. *Squints at tfeign* You win this round.... | ||
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shasin
Romania899 Posts
 . In my time spent here i only seen like 30% of that mod list posting something interesting and new. Wait...make that 20%. Without the korean progaming coverage, this site would turn blue in 1 week top. The layout isn't attractive, the people are sometimes jerks, if we get lucky we'll get live reports, you don't have shortcuts or links to important stuff like W-Player FAQ and so on. Don't tell me that this site is moderated. It is, a little, but the lack of interest is abvious. Now, who is Stimy and what's his problem? I come here every day, actualy this is my first destination after i start my comp but i don't have a problem with the way manifesto expreses himself. Actually i don't know of any threads that have been closed by him. Maybe because i don't give a fuck about stupid threads so i don't read'em. I had a thread closed once or at least i think so. When i became sober again i remembered that i started somethin in the strategy forum but there wasn't anything so either i was dreaming or it got closed....but i understand. :D This site is still up only because of the wonderfull korean gaming scene. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
On February 17 2006 00:25 Energies wrote: *Squints at tfeign* You win this round.... but Steve recognizes his strengths. In the thread he even says he cant type anything;) | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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