EPTEsports is a very male centric industry, there is a lot of attention that gets placed on casual games and competitive games, but that argument aside esports is neglecting have the consumer market.
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Are dota heroes cute enought
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
Esports is a very male centric industry, there is a lot of attention that gets placed on casual games and competitive games, but that argument aside esports is neglecting have the consumer market. discuss. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
Not sure if a supercute character belongs in Dota2, nor something slathered in sex appeal, but something easily identifiable and mascotable that people can really rally behind might be good for the game. I mean Morphling is kind fo cute but he's also kind of just an upsidedown tongue. As for getting girls involved in the game... good luck with that; I think LoL has Dota beat in that regard. I mean I'm sure Dota will attract plenty of fans of both genders but LoL may have the better self-contained business model by marketing cute skins/characters to people that are willing to buy them. | ||
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Tevinhead
United Kingdom470 Posts
Most famous female singers who aren't amazing at singing are SEXY not cute. Unless we're talking about Asia and even then, the market is still bigger for sexy. And if we're talking about how to attract female gamers? Dota 2 has this in the bag too. Customizing each body part, allowing you to actually create your own look and be unique. If I've learned anything from my years of gaming it's that chicks dig any game with high room for character customization. Which even leads to a final point, because customizations can be user-created, if someone creates some 'cute' customizations and enough people like it. It'll be available. Dota 2 is definitely not as bright or colourful but it's also not trying to be. It's the differences between LoL and Dota 2 that make them both interesting. Myself and many others I know would prefer sexy and bad-ass over cute and cartoonish. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
what you think of a characters' aesthetics is first of all subjective - what you think does not necessarily represent what others think nor does it give any truth please tell me what horrendous flaw windrunner has? red hair? girls aren't flocking to dota2 because they don't know it exists because it hasn't been released yet, not because there isn't a cutesy hero they can make dolls out of. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
I hadn't really thought about this before though, that LoL has a higher % of females playing than in DotA. Edit: reading the above post, the fact that more people play LoL may be a significant reason why there seem to be more girls who play LoL than DotA. Also it may be that since it is more popular, girls are more exposed to it, and thus LoL has a higher % female playerbase. So maybe the reason why LoL seems to have a higher % female playerbase is not mainly because the champions are cute. Edit2: After reading d3's post, I think it would be no problem if they, instead of making new heroes look cute, simply make cute or even silly (sillier?) items. That way the "official" look of the characters is still "serious", and if people see a funny item, it'll be entertaining but not bothersome. | ||
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TubbyIsAwesome
United States161 Posts
How do the models look worse in dota 2 compared to LoL? ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/50138116.jpg/) I personally love the colors and I think it actually attracts "casual" LoL players because of how amazing it looks, but that's just my opinion. | ||
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etherealfall
Australia476 Posts
It looks hideous. | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
Edit: I guess on a related note, there was a girl in TI2 that they showed on cam dressed as Crystal Maiden. So girls still do cosplay as Dota2 chars, even if they arent cute. Thus we do not need dat kawaii bullshit. | ||
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On September 02 2012 14:51 Emnjay808 wrote: What the fuck? the forum has turned to shit since yesterday | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
Rikki would kinda fit in the cute category? Puck could've fit in, but I just find the voice really annoying. I actually quite like the art style in dota 2.The art style in LoL just feels pretty bad to me, seems kinda ugly. I think the changes made to LoL make it a lot more acessible to people, and hence more female audiences. | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
Cute heros attract casual gamers, but dota is not a casual game. Valve does not need to attract girls to their games to be successful, and cute heros do not fit into the theme of dota. There are many more reasons to not have cute heros than there are to have them. | ||
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soulostar
United States46 Posts
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On September 02 2012 14:57 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote: LoL is played by more girls because it's a much easier game to play than dota. There are few girls who want to dedicate the time to learn how to play dota, just as there are fewer females who dedicate the time to learning starcraft. Cute heros attract casual gamers, but dota is not a casual game. Valve does not need to attract girls to their games to be successful, and cute heros do not fit into the theme of dota. There are many more reasons to not have cute heros than there are to have them. Exactly. It's not because the heroes or cute or something. The reason they play it is because the skill curve is easier to get around than Dota/Dota 2. Many LoL/D2 pros have said it themselves. LoL is simply the easier game to learn. Hence, girls will play the game that is easier to learn. Sure, 'cute characters' may play a factor but it's so small that it's negligible. People don't want to suck at the game they are playing. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I really wonder if cuteness has anything to do with anything... | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
Need I say more? in all honesty, I think they look fine. valve managed to give off very similar looks to that of the original, all the while giving them an "updated" and unique look. There are still many heroes needing to be added so will have to see. Excited to see how the revamped Phoenix will look. | ||
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sevia
United States954 Posts
On September 02 2012 14:24 Tevinhead wrote: Sexy > Cute. Most famous female singers who aren't amazing at singing are SEXY not cute. Unless we're talking about Asia and even then, the market is still bigger for sexy. Have to agree with this guy. 'Sexy' champions like Sona or Miss Fortune probably attract more women to LoL than 'cute' ones like Annie and Teemo, although those cute ones probably help. Stylized figures and exaggerated proportions lead to more creative costumes, which leads to more scantily-clad cosplayers, which leads to more exposure of girls in the scene, which leads to more acceptance and adoption as a 'general' game rather than the more 'hardcore' male-dominated games like DOTA and Starcraft. Not to mention, having huge tits on the loading screens keeps the male audience interested in between games... League's art direction is definitely one of its strong points, from a marketing and popularity perspective. | ||
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Spoonmeister
Australia24 Posts
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
every courier is ADORABLE ^_^ | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.dota2-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tidehunter_lg.png) Shits cute  | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 02 2012 14:52 zeehar wrote: the forum has turned to shit since yesterday Exactly what i have in mind when i see the OP. I am gonna leave here at once. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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tyner
176 Posts
but ns is pretty cute. | ||
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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
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noobcakes
United States526 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
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Jergen
United States136 Posts
![[image loading]](http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/031/d/6/dota_2___venomancer_by_8acon-d4o7yn9.png) How can you say that there are no cute heroes? ;_; | ||
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eleaf
526 Posts
Personally, I prefer tidehunter (lol) & templar assassin ... | ||
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
So in terms of getting new people to care about your game, dota2's graphics did a hall of a lot more from me than lol's did. | ||
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eleaf
526 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:59 tyner wrote: I want my pandas back. storm spirit is an ugly old man and brewmaster is like a dog or some shit. but ns is pretty cute. cant agree more. Storm spirit is kind of OK in 3D model, but the 2D portrait is absolutely horrible. Brewmaster should be a PANDA !!! | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
However, i will say that LoL has 10x better female models then dota 2....in dota 2 female models are just...horrible, nothing to do with taste, they just look bad and unnatural. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:50 BurningSera wrote: Exactly what i have in mind when i see the OP. I am gonna leave here at once. ^ This. It just feels different from what it was before... | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/images/d/dd/Pudge_Large.png) | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13074 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.gs-media.de/img/storage/1910.png) Tiny is cute if he doesnt pick ulty ..... but then he turns into a mothafuckin boss on lvl 16. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Singapore1674 Posts
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Sweden312 Posts
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Australia937 Posts
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