EPTIt's fucking stupid.
Patchzergs, Real or Imagniary? - Page 11
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
It's fucking stupid. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
That's retarded, Moon has been bringing results almost since he's entered the scene, barring his infamous baneling-explosion in GSL. Yeah that's right, he qualified for GSL in 2010, hardly a "Patchzerg". | ||
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Fibbz
Germany62 Posts
Greetz | ||
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Cushion
United States14 Posts
That being said, I can't really call this enough data, and I don't think ladder information would help either. I don't claim to be a pro-gamer, but I can only imagine that ladder and tourney play are very different from each other. So you would have to do one or the other. I'm sure all 3 of these guys will still be strong contenders in HoTS. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 20 2012 17:24 FuzzyJAM wrote: You might as well call Terrans who did well prior to the patch "pre-patch Terrans". It's fucking stupid. LOL I don't know why but your commeont on pre-patch terrans made me laugh. I pretty much agree with this completely. It's also very rude to the players and not giving them credit at all which is a joke. | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
On August 20 2012 17:24 FuzzyJAM wrote: You might as well call Terrans who did well prior to the patch "pre-patch Terrans". It's fucking stupid. This is it. On August 20 2012 10:54 Orek wrote: Definition of terms: Patch Zerg A zerg who only started making a splash in the scene after patch 1.4.3 balance changes, released the tenth of may 2012, implying that this zerg only is where he is at due to the patch, and the supposed zerg imbalance that comes with it. Campaign Terran A terran who only made a splash in the scene before patch 1.4.3 balance changes, released the tenth of may 2012, implying that this terran only was where he was at due to initial terran design that Blizzard apparently spent more time on for WoL single player terran campaign, and the supposed terran imbalance that came with it. Patch Terran A terran who will only start making a splash in the scene after patch 2.X.X balance changes in HotS, released sometime in 201X, implying that this terran will only be where he will be at due to the patch, and the supposed terran imbalance that will come with it. Campaign Zerg A zerg who will only make a splash in the scene before patch 2.X.X balance changes in HotS, released sometime in 201X, implying that this zerg will only be where he will be at due to initial zerg design that Blizzard apparently will spend more time on for HotS single player zerg campaign, and the supposed zerg imbalance that will come with it. and we compelete the cycle in LotV with Campaign Protoss vs Patch Terran/Zerg. | ||
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kranten
Netherlands236 Posts
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nukkuj
Finland403 Posts
While good Zergs have produced better results than before, insulting them like this is unacceptable. | ||
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Svenny90
21 Posts
On August 20 2012 09:18 nkr wrote: Why? Well we can safely assume that the balance in ZvZ was not affected by this or any previous patch, and while getting further in tournaments, they will now face the better pre-patch zergs. If these zergs in truth got to where they are because of the patch, they should lose more of these matches. Why would this be valid? | ||
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Maybe a Duck
Germany53 Posts
Patchzerg isnt applicable to vortix, because he dosent make more than 3 early queens^^ | ||
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Fabozi
Slovakia336 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On August 20 2012 09:42 sertman wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9403C.jpg) fucking patchzergs man The one and only. | ||
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Dingodile
4132 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On August 20 2012 09:30 Dakure wrote: I remember Slivko from IEM Sao Paulo. He almost took out Supernova I think it was. Definitely not a patchzerg. exactly this, he also has been kicking ass in russian tournaments, beating dimaga a few times. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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Nourek
Germany188 Posts
On August 20 2012 17:24 Hypemeup wrote: The buff certainly helped these up and comming players out a lot. Top tier kr terran players who were untouchable by all but the top foreginer zergs suddenly play really close games vs these newcommer zergs. Korean Terrans went 29-15 vs foreigner Zergs this IEM. It was not that close overall. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Jonhyreeco and sortof especially only went "pro" this summer, practiced allot more and when one to many tournaments.. it's normal that they are on the "radar" now simply because they were not competing | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
As the OP said, all those players were already part of the scene. The new patch brought some buffs which made Zerg easier to play, that's just facts. Not that it's directly related to the buffs, because of the buffs Zergs tried out some new styles which are really strong. So at most they got a little push in the right direction. But it's not like those players are gonna disappear if the metagame changes or zerg gets nerfed. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On August 20 2012 09:23 nkr wrote: Please read it all before commenting  I first glanced at this thread and thought what an idiot how could TL leave a thread with such content up. I then went through it and it's pretty amazing. The title lures in the balance whiners who won't read the whole thread and they then make some stupid balance comment where they get warned / banned. I'm glad you put in "what we have here is 3 Zergs who worked really hard" because working hard is so rare / under appreciated in the foreign community. Vortix especially has impressed me But speaking on the data I don't think you can really draw any solid conclusion from it based on the fact that there are so many factors going into tournament games that you can't account for. For example look at IdrA his pre patch performance (depending on how far back you go) should be better than his after patch performance. Is that an example of the patch being crappy for Zerg? No it isn't it's just one of the circumstances that you have to account for | ||
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