Basically, the article says MMA has been kicked out of the Slayers house and got demoted to the B team. MMA is pissed about it and wants to transfer to a foreign team. I can't find any other information about it. All can say is, WTF is going on? it says the detail hasnt been known, but I really hope things get sorted out.
"Slayers stated on the 17th that they demoted MMA to the B team and sent home from the team house. This was officially reported on the 16th, and they did not reveal any more information since it's the team's problems.
MMA was sent home as he was demoted to the B team, but it is unrelated to the GSTL participation.
Currently, it is reported that MMA is disagreeing with the demotion. Slayers stated that MMA wants to transfer to a foreign team without accepting the team's decision. Since the contract is still valid with Slayers, MMA won't be able to move to a foreign team without Slayer's permission. "
ps I read the quote and it seemed very misleading, as the article does not state anything about MMA's nor Crank's behaviors. I apologize.
Translation would be nice. If he leaves he should join IM, not a foreign team.
I can sort-of believe it even though I bet the writer is making stuff up, MMA has not been sent for GSTL much at all this season, favoring Puma and Ryung.
A specific incident (i.e. something bad) must have happened for SlayerS to decide to do this. MMA one of, if not their most, marketable players. Maybe we'll never know what happened.
I knew it was pretty korean fashion to be tough on unshaped players, but why would they demote MMA to B team ? even if he's not playing at his best level, i'm pretty sure he's not that bad atm...
I guess he lost motivation or something, jessica was very proud of him and last time i spoke with him he was really happy in SlayerS...
Wh...Why would this happen? I mean, he's a champion; that's about as far from a B-teamer as you can get. What happened to that heart-melting moment at MLG, when Boxer told MMA to win the tournament for him?
MMA was being a bad boy and getting in trouble disciplinary wise. This has nothing to do with his play. Boxer punished him by sending him down to the B team and asking him to leave the practice house. MMA thinks this is unfair and wants to leave to a foreign team, but he cannot unless he gets permission from Slayers due to his contract. Slayers is not going to tell us why he got punished or what he did wrong.
Edit 1: Seems like Slayers_Crank doesn't like this either, as he has just taken the team name off of his Twitter account along with MMA.
Edit 2: He will still play his Code A match.
This is all very weird as Slayers is in GSTL Semifinals and doing great atm.
Stein, one of the team and sign off Slayer Moon Sung won the Prince came to the jungjinggyereul.
Slayer off Wednesday morning press release from the Moon Sung sources said two groups allowed the relegation and staying home. 16, 2002, was conducted in this discipline Slayer off for disciplinary reasons, saying the team did not disclose internal problems.
Moon Sung won two groups, the relegation ears action but as the last in November 2011 choejonghwan League participated in the case of the problems there. Thus, Moon Sung won the first two coming on the 18th is in progress, Monsieur GSL Season 3 Code A 2-round songhyeondeok (timrikwideu) and will be playing.
Moon Sung won the team's reaction to the current disciplinary and known. Up Slayer Moon Sung won the relegation of the team decided to accommodate two groups without embracing foreign timeuroui move, he said. Moon Sung Su won, but the Slayer of the remaining contract term relationship I like the idea of a foreign team to move off Slayer's transfer is a situation where consent.
I used google translate so its in bad english, but its better than nothing I guess.
On July 17 2012 10:38 sLideSC2 wrote: Basically the article states the following.
MMA was being a bad boy and getting in trouble disciplinary wise. This has nothing to do with his play. Boxer punished him by sending him down to the B team. (He did NOT get kicked out of the Slayers house) MMA thinks this is unfair and wants to leave to a foreign team, but he cannot unless he gets permission from Slayers due to his contract. Slayers is not going to tell us why he got punished or what he did wrong.
Please somebody edit this into the intro so people stop the rampant misinformation now.
Apparently there are internal issues between MMA and the team MMA was demoted to B team (and kicked out of the team house?) MMA is pissed, doesnt accept the demotion to B team and he wants to join a foreign team, MMA still has contract with the team so he cant leave and join a foreign team unless slayers agrees to release him
I remember at the gstl a week or two ago jessica (i think) mentioned that the reason they didn't use mma was because he had been feeling unwell recently and they hoped he would feel well enough to play again in the future. (at least that was wolf's translation.)
Seems odd for them to then demote him to the B-Team a week later -.-
Wow.... what could have happened? I mean his play has been lackluster as of late but the article says its not related to his play... what happened MMA T_____T
Slayers has obviously been on the way out for the past 6 months. My gut tells me that Jessica has a lot to do with it. If she's as much as a psycho publicly, how do you think she treats her staff? Its gotta be a complete nightmare working under that woman.
Wow Jessica is sure a bitch is this is true. I highly doubt this is true. Especially with boxer being the owner it would give him a bad reputation. SlayerS would never allow this to happen especially with the recent success of the pro gamer. He is currently in a slump. If this is the reasoning for MMA to be kicked off the team I will longer support this team. I'll always love Boxer but this is just stupid. MMA I will always be your supporter and fan don't you worry!
no no no god no!!! Slayers get your act together. Please MMA stay on Slayers. If crank changed his tag than this means players are not happy with the teams decision. Please Jessica and Boxer fix this! Edit: Damn I already picked MMA to beat Hero.
On July 17 2012 10:41 BWalma wrote: Wow Jessica is sure a bitch is this is true. I highly doubt this is true. Especially with boxer being the owner it would give him a bad reputation. SlayerS would never allow this to happen especially with the recent success of the pro gamer. He is currently in a slump. If this is the reasoning for MMA to be kicked off the team I will longer support this team. I'll always love Boxer but this is just stupid. MMA I will always be your supporter and fan don't you worry!
On July 17 2012 10:41 BWalma wrote: Wow Jessica is sure a bitch is this is true. I highly doubt this is true. Especially with boxer being the owner it would give him a bad reputation. SlayerS would never allow this to happen especially with the recent success of the pro gamer. He is currently in a slump. If this is the reasoning for MMA to be kicked off the team I will longer support this team. I'll always love Boxer but this is just stupid. MMA I will always be your supporter and fan don't you worry!
Actually Jessica owns the team if I am not mistaken.
On July 17 2012 10:41 BWalma wrote: Wow Jessica is sure a bitch is this is true. I highly doubt this is true. Especially with boxer being the owner it would give him a bad reputation. SlayerS would never allow this to happen especially with the recent success of the pro gamer. He is currently in a slump. If this is the reasoning for MMA to be kicked off the team I will longer support this team. I'll always love Boxer but this is just stupid. MMA I will always be your supporter and fan don't you worry!
Ryung is finally Boxer's favorite....because none of the original terrans are left.
No, but this is actually pretty sad. I was never really an MMA or Slayers fan (outside of Ryung and Boxer himself), but it's sad to see so much of their original lineup go down the tube. Now they've lost their ace :/
MMA sent down to B-Team for some reason and was asked to leave the practice house as a 'punishment'. The reasons are unknown to public, as Slayers decided to not release any word about this situation. His involvement in Code A won't be affected.
MMA at the moment is not accepting these 'punishments' at the moment. Instead of accepting going down to the B-Team, MMA showed interest in transferring to foreign team.
On July 17 2012 10:41 BWalma wrote: Wow Jessica is sure a bitch is this is true. I highly doubt this is true. Especially with boxer being the owner it would give him a bad reputation. SlayerS would never allow this to happen especially with the recent success of the pro gamer. He is currently in a slump. If this is the reasoning for MMA to be kicked off the team I will longer support this team. I'll always love Boxer but this is just stupid. MMA I will always be your supporter and fan don't you worry!
where di you get jessica from?
calm down LOL.
we know next to nothing about the entire ordeal.
Olympic gold medal in leaping to conclusions. We really dont know anything.
It's standard practice on Korean pro teams to demote players to B Team if they've been underperforming. Bonjwa Savior and other star players were demoted to B Team for quite awhile.
On July 17 2012 10:41 Mohdoo wrote: Slayers has obviously been on the way out for the past 6 months. My gut tells me that Jessica has a lot to do with it. If she's as much as a psycho publicly, how do you think she treats her staff? Its gotta be a complete nightmare working under that woman.
They just made the GSTL semi-finals, and players like Alicia have been doing great in foreign tournaments.
People, why do you automatically blame Jessica? That's called witchhunt mentality, especially since there was no explicit mention about Jessica yet.
Jessica was seducing MMA when BoxeR wasn't home, MMA really didn't want to betray his father but Jessica forced himself on to him. Boxer walked, MMA screamed in English, "This isn't what it looks like!!". Jessica then told BoxeR that MMA was raping her.
On July 17 2012 10:41 BWalma wrote: Wow Jessica is sure a bitch is this is true. I highly doubt this is true. Especially with boxer being the owner it would give him a bad reputation. SlayerS would never allow this to happen especially with the recent success of the pro gamer. He is currently in a slump. If this is the reasoning for MMA to be kicked off the team I will longer support this team. I'll always love Boxer but this is just stupid. MMA I will always be your supporter and fan don't you worry!
where di you get jessica from?
calm down LOL.
we know next to nothing about the entire ordeal.
Olympic gold medal in leaping to conclusions. We really dont know anything.
MMA was the definition of Slayers. His tenacious style, drop harass, and brilliance was the embodiment of what Slayers is. I can understand not running him because he hasn't been playing that well recently, but this is man who's sole passion is StarCraft, and for a team with BoxeR, I can't imagine what it was that caused him to drop.
On July 17 2012 10:44 Depetrify wrote: Jessica was seducing MMA when BoxeR wasn't home, MMA really didn't want to betray his father but Jessica forced himself on to him. Boxer walked, MMA screamed in English, "This isn't what it looks like!!". Jessica then told BoxeR that MMA was raping her.
I don't understand. Didn't MMA just win Iron Squid not too long ago? How could anyone say MMA isn't performing? True, he's not doing as well as when he was at his peak but he's not irrelevant. I'll believe this when there's solid proof. ._.;;
Wow, I'm kind of getting tired of Koreans wanting to join foreigner teams. I understand they give generous salaries, but it is the worst thing to do if you want to improve. I really hope he goes to a foreign team that has a contract with a Korean team if he does that, so he can stay in a pro house in Korea for when he's not abroad.
On July 17 2012 10:47 cork wrote: Yoko Ono all over again
Yeah I was wondering if a lot of the slayers drama was happening because of girl problems. Im pretty sure Eve doesnt live at the house though but..... who knows. Not me.
There could be a Balkan Powderkeg over there. Or not.
On July 17 2012 10:44 Arco wrote: It's standard practice on Korean pro teams to demote players to B Team if they've been underperforming. Bonjwa Savior and other star players were demoted to B Team for quite awhile.
It's not performance related. This is a disciplinary action.
I'm pretty sure that Koreans will figure out what happened soon. Someone from SlayerS would tell a friend who would tell a friend who would spill the whole thing in PlayXP in no time.
Edit: I think this thread needs to be either closed or updated with full translation and title change.
On July 17 2012 10:47 Psychobabas wrote: In a year there will only be 1 or 2 Korean teams. Just watch...
Could you please elaborate? Thank you very much.
Its very realistic to believe most GSL teams are going to die out in the future, and become absorbed into KeSPA teams. GSL teams simply don't have the money/sponsorship backing.
Sounds kind of like boxer is being a bit harsh, but it could have been just considering that we don't know the exact reason or what exactly happened to make boxer demote mma to the b team.
On July 17 2012 10:50 FataLe wrote: From what tiny information we do have, i'd say MMA is being a brat about things. But obviously, we can't be certain.
We don't have enough information frankly to decide. Hopefully this all blows over though.
On July 17 2012 10:50 FataLe wrote: From what tiny information we do have, i'd say MMA is being a brat about things. But obviously, we can't be certain.
I would say that too, but I don't see why CranK would be siding with him if MMA was just being a brat..
On July 17 2012 10:47 cork wrote: Yoko Ono all over again
Yeah I was wondering if a lot of the slayers drama was happening because of girl problems. Im pretty sure Eve doesnt live at the house though but..... who knows. Not me.
There could be a Balkan Powderkeg over there. Or not.
What exactly does she do anymore? Only seen her once in GSTL ages ago.
On July 17 2012 10:50 FataLe wrote: From what tiny information we do have, i'd say MMA is being a brat about things. But obviously, we can't be certain.
It could just be frustration, too. I mean, it can't be easy to go from being most people's pick as the best player in the world to not even making the A-team on a team that you were once the essence of.
Not only that, but the hierarchy of MMA being far and away the best player on SlayerS has kind of changed too with CoCa/Alicia's resurgence, YuGiOh playing well, and Puzzle being Puzzle as well as Ryung showing that he can play just as well as MMA ever could.
I hope it's just frustration. MMA is one of the most entertaining players.
Sounds kind of like boxer is being a bit harsh, but it could have been just considering that we don't know the exact reason or what exactly happened to make boxer demote mma to the b team.
We don't know if it was BoxeR's decision or not.
Whoever translated the article in the OP just threw in couple of words that he wanted to, interpreted it as he wanted to, and now we have mis-information left and right.
On July 17 2012 10:47 cork wrote: Yoko Ono all over again
Yeah I was wondering if a lot of the slayers drama was happening because of girl problems. Im pretty sure Eve doesnt live at the house though but..... who knows. Not me.
There could be a Balkan Powderkeg over there. Or not.
What exactly does she do anymore? Only seen her once in GSTL ages ago.
She was and probably always will be a pretty face. Pretty good at SC2 as well.
He's probably going through that puberty phase where you get all rebellious against mommy and daddy, changing his name on twitter, saying he's his own man, but soon he'll run back to Jessica's skirt like every little boy.
Hoping we get more information on this. But frankly I haven't really agreed with a lot of decisions that SlayerS have been making and the team has really fallen far from their glory. I don't know, it feels like morale in the house has been dropping a lot due to less than expected individual performances, the departure of Coach Ryu and Boxer's playing hiatus. The fact that Jessica is now their "head manager/coach" and Eve is being marketed so heavily (in Troy photoshoots, etc) rather than the rest of the team also made me feel like there had been things in SlayerS which weren't really going right.
I feel that MMA without SlayerS won't be as good as he was with it. I don't really see him being a top class talent without SlayerS.
On July 17 2012 10:58 helttod wrote: He's probably going through that puberty phase where you get all rebellious against mommy and daddy, changing his name on twitter, saying he's his own man, but soon he'll run back to Jessica's skirt like every little boy.
Which is funny considering MMA is quite old for a Korean progamer. (23 years old)
On July 17 2012 10:47 Psychobabas wrote: In a year there will only be 1 or 2 Korean teams. Just watch...
Could you please elaborate? Thank you very much.
Its very realistic to believe most GSL teams are going to die out in the future, and become absorbed into KeSPA teams. GSL teams simply don't have the money/sponsorship backing.
Indeed, and before that happens, I feel a lot of top Koreans will think about going abroad. Before the KeSPA teams lock them down with rock-solid contracts that is. Like you said, they just dont have the money.
This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
On July 17 2012 10:58 helttod wrote: He's probably going through that puberty phase where you get all rebellious against mommy and daddy, changing his name on twitter, saying he's his own man, but soon he'll run back to Jessica's skirt like every little boy.
Which is funny considering MMA is quite old for a Korean progamer. (23 years old)
It's not a matter of age itself, but going through the rebellion phase, I know you got it.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
On July 17 2012 11:00 pdd wrote: Hoping we get more information on this. But frankly I haven't really agreed with a lot of decisions that SlayerS have been making and the team has really fallen far from their glory. I don't know, it feels like morale in the house has been dropping a lot due to less than expected individual performances, the departure of Coach Ryu and Boxer's playing hiatus. The fact that Jessica is now their "head manager/coach" and Eve is being marketed so heavily (in Troy photoshoots, etc) rather than the rest of the team also made me feel like there had been things in SlayerS which weren't really going right.
I feel that MMA without SlayerS won't be as good as he was with it. I don't really see him being a top class talent without SlayerS.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
I imagine what he did was quite major, otherwise doing something like that to your star player (who has been the star player for so long) is quite a bad idea. It is good to have order in a team, but not so much that you control everything in ways like this. It just ends up offending and annoying the players.
Hopefully everything works out. MMA is such a huge representative of SlayerS.
On July 17 2012 11:01 johnny123 wrote: i hope to hear EG MMA soon :D
That would be awkward seeing as EG and Slayers are partnered. Wouldn't be good for EG players living in the Slayers house if they just go, 'Hey? MMA left your team? We'll sign him!'
On July 17 2012 10:58 helttod wrote: He's probably going through that puberty phase where you get all rebellious against mommy and daddy, changing his name on twitter, saying he's his own man, but soon he'll run back to Jessica's skirt like every little boy.
Which is funny considering MMA is quite old for a Korean progamer. (23 years old)
It's not a matter of age itself, but going through the rebellion phase, I know you got it.
Yeah, I got it. It certainly looks exactly as you said :D
MMA IS Slayers. Alicia is in all honesty probably better than him now but still, this can't bode well for Slayers at least in terms of sponsors, considering they lost their most visible player by far.
On July 17 2012 10:44 Depetrify wrote: Jessica was seducing MMA when BoxeR wasn't home, MMA really didn't want to betray his father but Jessica forced himself on to him. Boxer walked, MMA screamed in English, "This isn't what it looks like!!". Jessica then told BoxeR that MMA was raping her.
Although I am not perfect at Korean this is basically the direct translation from the article:
SlayerS have punished their ace of team, the Crown Prine MMA.
SlayerS have reported on the morning of the 17th that MMA has been demoted to B-Team and was told to return home. The punishment was carried out on the 16th and SlayerS did not reveal the exact reasons for the punishment as it was an internal thing within the team.
Despite being demoted to a B-Teamer and forced to go home, MMA will still participate in the upcoming Code A round 2 against HerO.
It is told currently that MMA is resisting the team's punishment. SlayerS said MMA is not accepting the demotion to being a B-Teamer and is currently wanting to move to a foreign team. However because the contract between MMA and SlayerS is still void, MMA needs the approval of SlayerS in order to move to a foreign team.
On July 17 2012 10:58 helttod wrote: He's probably going through that puberty phase where you get all rebellious against mommy and daddy, changing his name on twitter, saying he's his own man, but soon he'll run back to Jessica's skirt like every little boy.
Which is funny considering MMA is quite old for a Korean progamer. (23 years old)
It's not a matter of age itself, but going through the rebellion phase, I know you got it.
MMA has always seemed like one of the more mature and focused SC2 players.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
Fairly certain Kespa teams are not allowed to poach GOM team players...
On July 17 2012 11:04 pumpy145 wrote: Although I am not perfect at Korean this is basically the direct translation from the article:
SlayerS have punished their ace of team, the Crown Prine MMA.
SlayerS have reported on the morning of the 17th that MMA has been demoted to B-Team and was told to return home. The punishment was carried out on the 16th and SlayerS did not reveal the exact reasons for the punishment as it was an internal thing within the team.
Despite being demoted to a B-Teamer and forced to go home, MMA will still participate in the upcoming Code A round 2 against HerO.
It is told currently that MMA is resisting the team's punishment. SlayerS said MMA is not accepting the demotion to being a B-Teamer and is currently wanting to move to a foreign team. However because the contract between MMA and SlayerS is still void, MMA needs the approval of SlayerS in order to move to a foreign team.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
I can just see MMA yelling "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
Fairly certain Kespa teams are not allowed to poach GOM team players...
And does that mean that BoxeR isn't the benevolent emperor, but... an evil dark lord?!
Who would have thought MMA would be the bad boy of e-sports, get punished and then not actually take his punishment? Now he wants to leave for a foreign team, but is under a contract.
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
Fairly certain Kespa teams are not allowed to poach GOM team players...
And does that mean that BoxeR isn't the benevolent emperor, but... an evil dark lord?!
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
I bet Grandma Ga Yeon is blowing shit out of proportion again. What MMA did was probably not that huge, but she's one to love a good drama bubble bursting.
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
Fairly certain Kespa teams are not allowed to poach GOM team players...
And does that mean that BoxeR isn't the benevolent emperor, but... an evil dark lord?!
naw man he obi-wan. he the jesus of e-sports.
Ah so that means that MMA isn't his son, but his pupil. And now BoxeR "has the high ground" and MMA still wants to attack!
On July 17 2012 11:09 ZenithM wrote: I bet Grandma Ga Yeon is blowing shit out of proportion again. I bet what MMA did was not that huge, but she's one to love a good drama bubble bursting.
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
Fairly certain Kespa teams are not allowed to poach GOM team players...
Yeah not for a few months at least IIRC. It'd be unfair for a team to have a GSL caliber player in the current proleague, they'd win every ace match.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
On July 17 2012 10:46 pumpy145 wrote: Oh man if MMA joins SKT,,,
MMA to join KT.
I think woongjin would be more likely, since former slayers coach ryo won works there now. ryo won mentioned in an interview recently that mma was one of his favourite players to work with through all time.
Fairly certain Kespa teams are not allowed to poach GOM team players...
If a player goes free agent, would they still count as GOM team player or would that be a loop hole for KeSPA teams to recruit with?
On July 17 2012 11:08 Fionn wrote: Who would have thought MMA would be the bad boy of e-sports, get punished and then not actually take his punishment? Now he wants to leave for a foreign team, but is under a contract.
This could get messy.
Man, TSL and SlayerS have basically reversed their fortunes. Now SlayerS is the team that is losing players left and right who want to join foreign teams, while TSL has a stable team that is doing well in GSTL (Well, applies to SlayerS-EG as well).
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
Much like jesus, yes.
Jesus is Darth Vader now??? The world doesn't make sense anymore.
With the way things are now, I'm not surprised if MKP and Huk are actually girls anymore.
On July 17 2012 11:09 ZenithM wrote: I bet Grandma Ga Yeon is blowing shit out of proportion again. I bet what MMA did was not that huge, but she's one to love a good drama bubble bursting.
A fitting taste for a drama actress.
wooooooov.
strong fantasy you got going there.
Lolwut? I just said I think MMA didn't kill someone. Rest is just a bit of banter obviously.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
Didn't you read the Prophecy thread regarding a Starcraft II pro bringing balance to progaming?
On July 17 2012 11:09 ZenithM wrote: I bet Grandma Ga Yeon is blowing shit out of proportion again. I bet what MMA did was not that huge, but she's one to love a good drama bubble bursting.
A fitting taste for a drama actress.
wooooooov.
strong fantasy you got going there.
Lolwut? I just said I think MMA didn't kill someone. Rest is just a bit of banter obviously.
those key words just flew over your head didn't they
Coca got demoted and forced to withdraw from GSL Code S for like 6 months because he tossed a match for Byun. MMA only gets demoted but not withdrawn from GSL so whatever he did is less serious than tossing a match.
On July 17 2012 11:08 Fionn wrote: Who would have thought MMA would be the bad boy of e-sports, get punished and then not actually take his punishment? Now he wants to leave for a foreign team, but is under a contract.
This could get messy.
Man, TSL and SlayerS have basically reversed their fortunes. Now SlayerS is the team that is losing players left and right who want to join foreign teams, while TSL has a stable team that is doing well in GSTL (Well, applies to SlayerS-EG as well).
SlayerS-EG is doing fine in GSTL. In fact, they will face off against TSL.
On July 17 2012 11:08 Fionn wrote: Who would have thought MMA would be the bad boy of e-sports, get punished and then not actually take his punishment? Now he wants to leave for a foreign team, but is under a contract.
This could get messy.
Man, TSL and SlayerS have basically reversed their fortunes. Now SlayerS is the team that is losing players left and right who want to join foreign teams, while TSL has a stable team that is doing well in GSTL (Well, applies to SlayerS-EG as well).
SlayerS-EG is doing fine in GSTL. In fact, they will face off against TSL.
I did happen to mention SlayerS-EG in my post, but it appears that SlayerS is having trouble, not the partnership.
It's so sad Slayers basically imploded. They're just bleeding all the good players T.T
On a side note, I wonder how much $$ MMA would be looking for. I've always wanted to own a pro-gaming team. Now that I've got the income and an extra apartment, who knows
On July 17 2012 11:09 ZenithM wrote: I bet Grandma Ga Yeon is blowing shit out of proportion again. I bet what MMA did was not that huge, but she's one to love a good drama bubble bursting.
A fitting taste for a drama actress.
wooooooov.
strong fantasy you got going there.
Lolwut? I just said I think MMA didn't kill someone. Rest is just a bit of banter obviously.
those key words just flew over your head didn't they
They sure did, care to educate me? Is it like a reference to Fantasy? I really don't get it :D
An appetizer of drama to start the day! Will the smogasboard come later??
This is my dream scenario: MMA joins EG and the EG/Slayers partnership dissolves. EG teams with a new korean team and then makes it to the final of the GSTL where... they face Slayers! The team trades blows and Slayers leads 4-2. MMA rises and promptly vanquishes the Slayers player with amazing play. Boxer, who has been on incredible form lately, then faces MMA but gets cheesed out and Slayers is in disarray.
I wonder if the EG guys are allowed to say anything about this. They probably know what happened if they're staying in the SlayerS house but maybe they won't want to say to not upset Jessica.
On July 17 2012 11:18 pumpy145 wrote: SlayerS maybe has sponsorship problems like oGs, they lost the support of intel that switched to IM.
SlayerS was never sponsored by Intel. Only BoxeR. SlayerS "big" sponsor for awhile was Razer. Razer switched to MVP at the beginning of the year. Also, I believe most of the "outstanding" (things that aren't able to be covered by sponsorships) team finances comes out of Jessica's pocket.
SlayerS has nothing but Boxer's name, and that name isn't so highly regarded anymore. He's been out of the spotlight for almost a year due to his injury and being bad at the game compared to modern players.
Drama causing an implosion is sad but maybe it'll be for the best. There are just way too many teams right now for there to be enough money to support. There are going to be mergers and teams are going to die until we end up with maybe half the teams currently around, but the new bigger teams will be better funded.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
So does that mean that in the end he will sacrifice himself to save e-sports?!?
Much like jesus, yes.
Jesus is Darth Vader now??? The world doesn't make sense anymore.
With the way things are now, I'm not surprised if MKP and Huk are actually girls anymore.
Cella did mention that Huk is actually a 'secret girl' when he was on SotG a few months back :D
To be honest I'm not that surprised, I always felt this bad boy rebel vibe from MMA and sort of found him antagonistic for some reason. Wonder what was the cause of his demotion though
On July 17 2012 10:44 Depetrify wrote: Jessica was seducing MMA when BoxeR wasn't home, MMA really didn't want to betray his father but Jessica forced himself on to him. Boxer walked, MMA screamed in English, "This isn't what it looks like!!". Jessica then told BoxeR that MMA was raping her.
Suprised no ban from this. Either way, sad to see MMA go, SlayerS is not the same.
I think there needs to be more information. All I know is that MMA got demoted to B-team, decided to leave SlayerS to look for a foreign team, but SlayerS won't let him. Also, what about Crank? Will he leave the team, too? Hopefully SlayerS will make a statement about this soon.
It would be better if he used the frustration of the demotion to inspire him to get back to where he was once at result wise. Instead of wanting to jump ship. Sure I guess him being on a foreign team would be neat, but very unlikely.
I knew Miya somehow plays a role in this mess. there are many times when they sent him out instead of MMA in GSTL and he never stops failing. And this time he probably replaces MMA in the A-team.
On July 17 2012 11:20 MooMooMugi wrote: MMA was the key player for pretty much a whole year and they demote him, I think his anger is justified
If that was the case, which it isn't clear whether it was or not at this point. Its pretty standard practice in Korean pro-teams. Doing poorly, get demoted. Its nothing personal, just business. I don't know if it has contractual ramifications, but getting demoted to the B-Team is not the big deal here :[
On July 17 2012 11:22 Irave wrote: It would be better if he used the frustration of the demotion to inspire him to get back to where he was once at result wise. Instead of wanting to jump ship. Sure I guess him being on a foreign team would be neat, but very unlikely.
Going foreign won't help him get any better either -_-''
On July 17 2012 11:18 DMXD wrote: Oh no no no....What is going on with Slayers?? MMA Is the Face of Slayers..
No, Ryung is the face of Slayers now.
All hail the new Heir of the Throne, the True Son of Boxer, the Forgotten Son Who Is Now Unforgotten Because Everyone Else Left.
Ryung! Ryung! Ryung!
Funny, but also deeply sad. T_T I don't want MMA to leave, and normally I'm not at all emotional about player transfers. Peope were talking about Taeja leaving Slayers like it was a huge deal, but he didn't even live in the house, he wasn't the face of Slayers. But MMA man, him and Boxer were Slayers. Damn.
On July 17 2012 11:23 Lennient wrote: I knew Miya somehow plays a role in this mess. there are many times when they sent him out instead of MMA in GSTL and he never stops failing. And this time he probably replaces MMA in the A-team.
I love MMA more than SlayerS, but I think MMA had intentions of leaving SlayerS already. No one would want to join a foreign team out of no where, must have thought about it for a while. Maybe if he said he wanted to join a different team and not just a foreign team, it might've sound that he is just reacting without thinking. I just hope MMA will be happy with whatever happens in this situation. It will be kind of awkward if SlayerS won't let him go and he doesn't want to be there. Also, if SlayerS do let him go... just sad for us fans, but it might be for the best because if MMA feels the need to leave and find his passion to whoop some asses again, please do so.
Well, it's Ryung's time to shine MMA's been slumping recently, that's for sure, but I'd also hate him to leave SlayerS as I'm sure is the case with many others as well. #1 son no more.
On July 17 2012 11:00 zeratul_jf wrote: This is very sad.. MMA is my favorite player, the one that i saw becoming the true heir to Esports but leaving slayers after boxer recruited him and trained him.
MMA will become the Darth Vader of e-sports.
Or maybe Boxer is Darth Vader and MMA is Luke.
Plot twist.
You just blew my mind.
On topic though, TIG seems kind of like a tabloid. Not enough information is being provided.
That is a pretty big loss for SLayerS! If anyone has his information send it to me, i'll form a foreign team around him. I'd sell my kidney for the start up cash
This makes kind of no sense. Although MMA has been kinda bad-ish recently, he's still not 'B teamer' material. He did just win Iron Squid like 3 months ago.
I think there is stuff we don't know going on here.
EDIT: Oh, MMA was being naughty? Teehee.
Still really quite shocking though. He must have done something really bad to have this happen. He's one of the team's most important and iconic players.
On July 17 2012 10:38 sLideSC2 wrote: Basically the article states the following.
MMA was being a bad boy and getting in trouble disciplinary wise. This has nothing to do with his play. Boxer punished him by sending him down to the B team and asking him to leave the practice house. MMA thinks this is unfair and wants to leave to a foreign team, but he cannot unless he gets permission from Slayers due to his contract. Slayers is not going to tell us why he got punished or what he did wrong.
Edit 1: Seems like Slayers_Crank doesn't like this either, as he has just taken the team name off of his Twitter account along with MMA.
Edit 2: He will still play his Code A match.
This is all very weird as Slayers is in GSTL Semifinals and doing great atm.
Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
Maybe MMA brought up about joining a foreigner team to Boxer n Jessica, and then they kinda got upset and thats why they are demoting him, till his contract is up?
Btw if MMA want's to Dwight Howard his way out of SlayerS, he is stupid and should have known that its not going to work. Just sit out your contract and look for the best offer then.
On July 17 2012 11:24 Fionn wrote: MMA DID NOT GET DEMOTED DUE TO RESULTS.
He did something bad. Maybe he littered? Had a girl over after hours? Ate Jessica's leftovers? Set Ryung's bed on fire? No one knows.
Well, Jessica's gotta be involved somehow. She once said: "Win MLG, or don't come home."
Once MMA won that MLG, she acted like she loved him. Now that his results aren't so good, maybe she's plying BoxeR to get rid of MMA.
You are making it sound like a terrible soap lol. The fact is that MMA has been slumping bigtime lately. His fall from the spotlight might have affected him mentally since he's not the star of esports anymore. He probably had a bad attitude within the teamhouse and they kicked him to b team to get his act straight.
On July 17 2012 11:29 SaberNodoka wrote: Been slumping hard lately. If his resolve is so weak that just being demoted that he was not up to scratch lately, no real loss for slayers
i dont find hes slumping that much, he won iron squid not to long ago, and showed very good games at IPL hot imports night.
Terran in general is having a really tough time.. they are all slumping. MMA will be back, hasnt he already won his code A round 1 match? he could very well be in code S next season.
On July 17 2012 10:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote: He has been underperforming
Dude, are you kidding me? Yes he's been underperforming of recent, HOWEVER, look at the rest of the SlayerS A team people who have been underperforming for the longest time. Fuck ALICIA has been underperforming for a waaaay longer time, yet they still let him stay in. How about the rest of the Slayers team for that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken they only have like what 2-3 players in the GSL? Plus he's the one that has done most for the team, help them clutch the ace matches in GSTL.
Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
On July 17 2012 10:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote: He has been underperforming
Dude, are you kidding me? Yes he's been underperforming of recent, HOWEVER, look at the rest of the SlayerS A team people who have been underperforming for the longest time. Fuck ALICIA has been underperforming for a waaaay longer time, yet they still let him stay in. How about the rest of the Slayers team for that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken they only have like what 2-3 players in the GSL? Plus he's the one that has done most for the team, help them clutch the ace matches in GSTL.
I can't imagine SlayerS without MMA.
Alicia's taken second place at two major foreign tournaments recently
But that's only a small consolation for what appears to be happening to SlayerS right now... I really like both MMA and Crank on SlayerS, why must this happen T_T
And yeah I agree that MMA + BoxeR are the very ESSENCE of SlayerS. The team will lose so much of its established identity if MMA goes.
On July 17 2012 10:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote: He has been underperforming
Dude, are you kidding me? Yes he's been underperforming of recent, HOWEVER, look at the rest of the SlayerS A team people who have been underperforming for the longest time. Fuck ALICIA has been underperforming for a waaaay longer time, yet they still let him stay in. How about the rest of the Slayers team for that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken they only have like what 2-3 players in the GSL? Plus he's the one that has done most for the team, help them clutch the ace matches in GSTL.
Can't wait for the full story! I wonder what the demotion is for? If it's disciplinary reasons it's going to be quite juicy since MMA doesn't agree with it!
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
On July 17 2012 10:39 Fionn wrote: But...but HE IS SLAYERS.
He is what MKP is to Prime. He is what Mvp/Nestea are to IM. He is the SON OF BOXER.
I know, WTF? HE was hyped up as Boxer's son for more than a year. He is the prime player people think of when they think of Slayers.
Reality-shattering news this is.
Hopefully everyone calms down and work things out, I think MMA is too important to Slayers to lose. But it will be interesting to see where/how much/what mma wants to see happen.
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
Damn the imagination on some of you people :D
TSL players are sent out internationally out of Lee's pockets (at least thats the way its been). From the sounds of it, the TSL-Millennium partnership is more/less a training partnership similar to oGs-TL or SlayerS-EG.
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
Because players usually change their handles after they leave teams, most of them do in fact.
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
Could just be rebellious. A changed twitter name doesn't mean anything official.
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
lol that was like a little SC2 parable, interesting thoughts
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
So, when DRG changed his twitter name to EGDongRaeGu he joined EG? Obviously this is a different situation, but nothing is 100% conclusive. It does say that MMA and CranK are clearly unhappy about something and most likely trying to/looking to leave the team ATM. However, like the article said, at least in MMA's case, there are contractual obligations and he can't just leave.
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
He could just be cutting ties with Slayers and being a rebellious kid, trying to make them know he wants out NOW.
Now we wait for:
A) Slayers to persuade MMA to take his discipline like a man B) Slayers to release MMA and let him join a new team C) Slayers relents to MMA, take away his punishment and everything goes back to normal D) Slayers says, 'Fuck you', don't let him out of his contract, kick him out of the house and basically keep him in limbo till his contract ends.
On July 17 2012 10:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote: He has been underperforming
Dude, are you kidding me? Yes he's been underperforming of recent, HOWEVER, look at the rest of the SlayerS A team people who have been underperforming for the longest time. Fuck ALICIA has been underperforming for a waaaay longer time, yet they still let him stay in. How about the rest of the Slayers team for that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm not mistaken they only have like what 2-3 players in the GSL? Plus he's the one that has done most for the team, help them clutch the ace matches in GSTL.
Slayers are doing great, and ALICIA just took 2nd damn place in the nasl
My context was that Alicia was doing well some time last year, he was hyped as Protoss savior, and the he disappeared from the GSL altogether for like half a year or more, with no results. That would have warranted a kick from A team had MMA been kicked out for results.
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
Quality post here, been a while since I've seen one like this.
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
He could just be cutting ties with Slayers and being a rebellious kid, trying to make them know he wants out NOW.
Now we wait for:
A) Slayers to persuade MMA to take his discipline like a man B) Slayers to release MMA and let him join a new team C) Slayers relents to MMA, take away his punishment and everything goes back to normal D) Slayers says, 'Fuck you', don't let him out of his contract, kick him out of the house and basically keep him in limbo till his contract ends.
also E) MMA finds anew team who can pay an awesome amount that slayers cant refuse, and hence allow him to break the contract! But who would want to do that now...
"But like everyone else we love some hype, another hint is that our player can snipe. A Golden Symbol should help you to guess who we have SeleCT, our guy´s favourite unit requires detect."
Make it happen....make it happen fnatic !!!!!!!!!!
On July 17 2012 11:31 Gorlin wrote: Fuck me, I really hope I wake up and this is all sorted out and he's back on the team. God damnit, this ruined my night. Call it pathetic, but this is the most emotionally devastated I've been in a while.
He is still on the team. The chances of SlayerS releasing him seems rather low. Sleep easy man.
i DON'T understand how changing ur twitter name DOESNT mean ur on slayers anymore
i mean its TWITTER what could be more important to a person then what there twitter ID is?
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
You forgot the part where Nestea reveals that dark matter is made out of his farts
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
On July 17 2012 11:43 Zer0sc2 wrote: "But like everyone else we love some hype, another hint is that our player can snipe. A Golden Symbol should help you to guess who we have SeleCT, our guy´s favourite unit requires detect."
Make it happen....make it happen fnatic !!!!!!!!!!
The Zerg Slayer to lead the new Champions.
MMA aLive Oz Moon
OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
oh god, the return of ZeroSC2 Please don't let it be Fnatic MMA if anything, go to SKT1 (as much as I am a KT fan, it seems right for him to return to his roots)
On July 17 2012 11:26 DaMan015 wrote: it would be sick if MMA chose ROOT as a foreign team. However, I would like to see him stay as a part of the slayers house.
I'm very curious as to what he did. If it was bad, MMA would've taken it on the chin and accepted it without creating all this fuss. I also don't see BoxeR disciplining his team's biggest star for a petty reason. I wonder if MMA's been wanting to leave SlayerS for awhile (for some foreign cash), and is using this to try and extricate himself.
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
You forgot the part where Nestea reveals that dark matter is made out of his farts
Damn, so 84% of total matter is made of nestea's flatulence! We must be honored to breathe and live by nestea's flatulence..
On July 17 2012 11:43 Zer0sc2 wrote: "But like everyone else we love some hype, another hint is that our player can snipe. A Golden Symbol should help you to guess who we have SeleCT, our guy´s favourite unit requires detect."
Make it happen....make it happen fnatic !!!!!!!!!!
On July 17 2012 11:37 dragonborn wrote: MMA and Crank should join TSL.
TSL needs another terran and good protoss :D
Coach Lee is the last person who wants a diva with disciplinary issues on his team.
I think that Coach Lee wouldn't be accepting MMA so easily, knowing that he is capable of going aLive-mode on him. Maybe he would keep him on a life-binding contract with TSL, so Polt could finally get a good Terran on TSL.
Shrug. He probably did something disciplinary wise that upset boxer and jessica. I dont think relationships in the house were very tense looking at the recent gstl with fnatic. Ryung even said MMA and him were considered to be sent out last against MMA but he didnt feel too well.
Sad news if it really goes through. I was waiting for MMA's resurgence into GSL code S. sigh....
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
That was hilarious haha, one of the funnier posts I've seen this year. Anyways, I don't think MMA is being demoted because his play sucks or something. He is still in code A ro32 so he still has a decent shot of getting into code S next season, or at worse, stays in code A. I think he either started a fight with one of the players or pissed off Jessica.
MMA is just throwing a huge fit, trying to get some media attention. Nothing much, he's just trying to go back into the A team without boxer's punishments or anything. nothing to big, move along kids.
It just seems embarrassing for both the team and MMA for there to be news like this. If you have internal problems, deal with it, reach a conclusion, and release a joint statement. This is just needless drama, which I suspect is what they're going for anyway.
I do wonder what goes in the mind of EG players like Thorzain who's staying there specifically to practice with MMA-caliber players. They still have other good players I suppose, but its a shame.
SK.MMA ... ... ... on a more serious note I hope this problem gets solved without MMA and Crank leaving SlayerS. At the moment MMA behaves like a rebellious child imo. Hope he will snap out of it.
With just this side of the story, it looks really bad imo. If a star player gets benched in any sports league and they demand a trade, it looks bad on the player, not the coach/team. You have to accept the team's decision to do what's best, and even if they are wrong, not act like a baby.
On July 17 2012 11:19 Zzoram wrote: SlayerS has nothing but Boxer's name, and that name isn't so highly regarded anymore. He's been out of the spotlight for almost a year due to his injury and being bad at the game compared to modern players.
Drama causing an implosion is sad but maybe it'll be for the best. There are just way too many teams right now for there to be enough money to support. There are going to be mergers and teams are going to die until we end up with maybe half the teams currently around, but the new bigger teams will be better funded.
As long as there are esports, boxer's name will always be highly regarded.
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
On July 17 2012 10:38 sLideSC2 wrote: Basically the article states the following.
MMA was being a bad boy and getting in trouble disciplinary wise. This has nothing to do with his play. Boxer punished him by sending him down to the B team. (He did NOT get kicked out of the Slayers house) MMA thinks this is unfair and wants to leave to a foreign team, but he cannot unless he gets permission from Slayers due to his contract. Slayers is not going to tell us why he got punished or what he did wrong.
Please somebody edit this into the intro so people stop the rampant misinformation now.
no, the article does not say that specifically, slideSC2 took some liberties there in interpertation
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
On July 17 2012 11:19 Zzoram wrote: SlayerS has nothing but Boxer's name, and that name isn't so highly regarded anymore. He's been out of the spotlight for almost a year due to his injury and being bad at the game compared to modern players.
Drama causing an implosion is sad but maybe it'll be for the best. There are just way too many teams right now for there to be enough money to support. There are going to be mergers and teams are going to die until we end up with maybe half the teams currently around, but the new bigger teams will be better funded.
As long as there are esports, boxer's name will always be highly regarded.
Seriously, give me a break. Boxer's name isn't tarnished because his skills have waned a bit, and SlayerS has so much more than that. MMA hasn't been relevant this whole season of GSTL, has he even won a match? Coca/Puzzle/Alicia/Crank/Ryung, the team is looking fantastic with MMA or without (don't get me wrong, I am a huge MMA fan and don't want him to leave).
SlayerS has always been one of my favorite teams to watch. I hope the issue is resolved quickly. MMA has always been one of the most consistent Starcraft 2 players.
On July 17 2012 11:53 LanTAs wrote: MMA is just throwing a huge fit, trying to get some media attention. Nothing much, he's just trying to go back into the A team without boxer's punishments or anything. nothing to big, move along kids.
Thanks for sharing your insider information with us, I'll be moving along now!
On July 17 2012 11:51 MasterKang wrote: if mma leaves slayers, i think im going to quit sc2... this is mindboggling
Just keep track of fantasy my friend, he's the true heir, although Browder robbed him of his terrorist vultures he's still going to be one of the best.
On July 17 2012 11:34 aRyuujin wrote: Say EG buys MMA + CranK, SlayerS' is mad, EG breaks off their partnership and teams up with LG-IM. EG then gets Stephano when his contract ends, TSL is mad that Millenium now sucks, breaks off their partnership. TSL now cannot send players internationally and crumbles, merging with the new LG-IM-EG conglomerate. SK realizes that they have a golden opportunity here, and join with LG-IM as full partners, with sponsorship from those SK energy shot things from the twitch ads. Meanwhile LG becomes the ultra title sponsors and IM is now LG Miracle. LGSK Miracle-EGTSL competes as a single team in the newly formed GomtvProleague, with a roster of players like Symbol, PuMa, JYP, Mvp (who is on his 7th GSL win with new, robotic hands), NesTea, Stephano, ThorZain (who became the second foreigner to win a gsl after Naniwa), MC, MMA.
The IM coach sends out a team of adelscott, dreamertt, machine, yoda, and inori twice in a row. They are knocked out 0-2
Afterwards the IM coach finally takes off his mask and reveals himself as....
Wow...this was not expected. If this were true, I wonder what the exact reasoning is. I mean, yeah, he has been under-performing, but so have all of the Slayers team, not to mention the Terrans. If this is true, I have to believe that there is more to it...
EPT
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MMA's been slumping recently, that's for sure, but I'd also hate him to leave SlayerS as I'm sure is the case with many others as well. #1 son no more.
