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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 10:12:15
July 13 2012 10:10 GMT
#581
its not like byun did it knowing its a bug
he looked vods last weeks and it wasnt there so he thought its no more in map ... not his fault great played

u guys do like its a fungame ... its their LIFE the money is their life ... guys you do EVERYTHING you can for win at least at its fair and byun could have nO idea its a bug ... so no his fault ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 10:12:08
July 13 2012 10:11 GMT
#582
damn double post plz delete this thx
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
July 13 2012 10:20 GMT
#583
On July 13 2012 19:07 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 12:25 ore0z wrote:
On July 13 2012 12:13 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 13 2012 12:08 ore0z wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:52 ragz_gt wrote:
The rule simply says: you must use the current version of GSL_Metropolis, and that was exactly the map used.

"The map will be changed immediately, and will once again feature neutral supply depots at the ramp starting with tomorrow's GSTL games."

It was not the map used.



Your causal relationship makes no sense. The fact that they are changing it again does not mean the one without supply was not "In the GSL map pool", which is all the rule requires. They effed up, that's bad; they are now are fixing, that's good. It does not mean that the rule "You must use the map in map pool" was broken.

It's like I hold up a red shirt and say "You must look at the shirt I'm holding, or you owe me $10". Then for some reason I changed the shirt I'm holding yellow shirt, and went "Oops, didn't mean to do that", and changed back to the red shirt. That does NOT mean you are now owe me $10 for looking at the yellow shirt.

This also implies that you know, and Gom knows, this is not the map intended.
You know very well that that this "current version" of GSL_Metropolis was not the map in the "GSL map pool"


this implies asking is too hard. the fact he found something odd, and then didnt bring it up to gom before the game shows he was intentionally being devious.

Eh what? The same map was used the week before, why would he question that if no one else have changed it in a week? Should he assume that GOM, the mapmaker, everyone else playing/watching games on that map are blind? That you twist that into him being devious is more devious by you than anything else...
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
July 13 2012 10:34 GMT
#584
On July 13 2012 19:10 CoR wrote:
its not like byun did it knowing its a bug
he looked vods last weeks and it wasnt there so he thought its no more in map ... not his fault great played

u guys do like its a fungame ... its their LIFE the money is their life ... guys you do EVERYTHING you can for win at least at its fair and byun could have nO idea its a bug ... so no his fault ...


No pretty sure he knew it was a bug. Doesn't matter though. It's not his fault for taking every advantage he can.
Zerofinal
Profile Joined June 2012
Thailand136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 11:08:29
July 13 2012 10:43 GMT
#585
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expellist
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore7 Posts
July 13 2012 10:46 GMT
#586
OMFG , are u kidding me? I feel so awfully bad for Nestea right now. If it had happened on ladder, i would just be a game. But, this is the GSL ro8 man, and alot of prize money is on the line as well. It just isn't fair to state that the game is over and henceforth just apologize and end of story. There either needs a regame or a compensation of some sort at least.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 10:52:45
July 13 2012 10:51 GMT
#587
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 13 2012 11:03 GMT
#588
On July 13 2012 19:20 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 19:07 turdburgler wrote:
On July 13 2012 12:25 ore0z wrote:
On July 13 2012 12:13 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 13 2012 12:08 ore0z wrote:
On July 13 2012 11:52 ragz_gt wrote:
The rule simply says: you must use the current version of GSL_Metropolis, and that was exactly the map used.

"The map will be changed immediately, and will once again feature neutral supply depots at the ramp starting with tomorrow's GSTL games."

It was not the map used.



Your causal relationship makes no sense. The fact that they are changing it again does not mean the one without supply was not "In the GSL map pool", which is all the rule requires. They effed up, that's bad; they are now are fixing, that's good. It does not mean that the rule "You must use the map in map pool" was broken.

It's like I hold up a red shirt and say "You must look at the shirt I'm holding, or you owe me $10". Then for some reason I changed the shirt I'm holding yellow shirt, and went "Oops, didn't mean to do that", and changed back to the red shirt. That does NOT mean you are now owe me $10 for looking at the yellow shirt.

This also implies that you know, and Gom knows, this is not the map intended.
You know very well that that this "current version" of GSL_Metropolis was not the map in the "GSL map pool"


this implies asking is too hard. the fact he found something odd, and then didnt bring it up to gom before the game shows he was intentionally being devious.

Eh what? The same map was used the week before, why would he question that if no one else have changed it in a week? Should he assume that GOM, the mapmaker, everyone else playing/watching games on that map are blind? That you twist that into him being devious is more devious by you than anything else...


they would of been told if there was intentional changes to the map pool, gom didnt tell anyone that anything has changed. its pretty obvious it was a mistake. but because only 1 guy noticed its ok?

what?
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
July 13 2012 11:14 GMT
#589
I was kinda upset to see the no depot. I stayed up til like 8 AM EST to watch that night's GSL and was cheering on Nestea. I think that was a big mental hit to him going into the series. But I do give it to Byun for playing well, but can't help to think if Nestea was affected by it or not. There must be a lot of pressure on him to try catching up to MVP in titles and live up to his legend.
sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
July 13 2012 11:44 GMT
#590
@Orek, and other people: Double bunker is easy to stop, but near impossible to stop if you think you're safe vs it, a drone patrolling on the bottom of ramp will stop it.

GOM should have pointed out to players they changed the map.

It doesnt matter Nestea "would" have lost anyway, its fucked up anyways.
KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
July 13 2012 12:04 GMT
#591
With the updated information, kudos to Nestea and IM for dealing with it in such an honourable way. It may have been his loss, but glad to see him being mature and realistic about it and accepting it. +even more respect
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
July 13 2012 12:08 GMT
#592
On July 13 2012 19:46 expellist wrote:
OMFG , are u kidding me? I feel so awfully bad for Nestea right now. If it had happened on ladder, i would just be a game. But, this is the GSL ro8 man, and alot of prize money is on the line as well. It just isn't fair to state that the game is over and henceforth just apologize and end of story. There either needs a regame or a compensation of some sort at least.

You're making it sound like this cheese is impossible to hold. Nestea has done hatch first builds since the first GSL seasons back in 2010 and the double bunker/triple pylons blocks were used a lot back then already. They added neutral depots in tournaments like GSL but not on ladder, so I'm sure he gets abused by this on a weekly basis during practice.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 12:43:26
July 13 2012 12:43 GMT
#593
Edit: delete this post
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
July 13 2012 12:45 GMT
#594
On July 13 2012 19:46 expellist wrote:
OMFG , are u kidding me? I feel so awfully bad for Nestea right now. If it had happened on ladder, i would just be a game. But, this is the GSL ro8 man, and alot of prize money is on the line as well. It just isn't fair to state that the game is over and henceforth just apologize and end of story. There either needs a regame or a compensation of some sort at least.


Did you even watch the games? Byun outplayed Nestea. Nestea probably thinks he would have lost regardless of the neutral depot so complaining would just make him look like a whiner.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
July 13 2012 13:01 GMT
#595
I think Nestea would've lost anyways. Very professional reaction nonetheless by both Nestea and the coach. Sucks that it happened, but meh, shit happens.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 13 2012 13:08 GMT
#596
It's sort of wierd that these sorts of things actually do happen. There should be a double-check by both mapmakers and GSL staff that games are played on the correct versions of the map or players should get noticed about such changes. A little bit unprofessional on the GSL side.

Well, another victory for prime, I guess.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 13 2012 13:13 GMT
#597
nesteas reaction yesterday to the bunker rushes was just not very good. even in set one he saw the proxy rax and scvs but he failed to block with drones and got killed.

but yes it does suck to be bunker rushed twice in a row. its not as easy to stop as some ppl think it is.
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
July 13 2012 13:14 GMT
#598
Why on earth does this thread have 30 pages, is there really that much to talk about regarding this?
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
July 13 2012 13:16 GMT
#599
GSL deserves a lot of professionalism credit here. Obviously the most professional thing is for this not to happen, but this is a level of response that most leagues wouldn't give. I still remember watching some early-ish season of NASL as they seemed to carefully make sure that they used every existing version of Tal'Darim Altar other than the one they were supposed to use, and never said anything. You can tell that Korean fans hold GSL to the standards of professional sports, and GSL responds by acting like it. I'll be happy when foreign leagues get to that level.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 13 2012 13:30 GMT
#600
On the one hand, I feel sorry for Nestea for being "cheated" out of a game.

On the other hand, looking at this from Byun's perspective... why didn't he inform GSL of this bug, choosing to exploit it instead? Very unsportsmanlike from Byun, I'm disappointed in him.
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