its not like byun did it knowing its a bug
he looked vods last weeks and it wasnt there so he thought its no more in map ... not his fault great played

u guys do like its a fungame ... its their LIFE the money is their life ... guys you do EVERYTHING you can for win at least at its fair and byun could have nO idea its a bug ... so no his fault ...

Drake

Germany6146 Posts

July 13 2012 10:11 GMT

#582

damn double post plz delete this thx

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

July 13 2012 10:20 GMT

#583

On July 13 2012 19:07 turdburgler wrote:

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this implies asking is too hard. the fact he found something odd, and then didnt bring it up to gom before the game shows he was intentionally being devious.

Eh what? The same map was used the week before, why would he question that if no one else have changed it in a week? Should he assume that GOM, the mapmaker, everyone else playing/watching games on that map are blind? That you twist that into him being devious is more devious by you than anything else...

Chaggi

Korea (South)1936 Posts

July 13 2012 10:34 GMT

#584

On July 13 2012 19:10 CoR wrote:
its not like byun did it knowing its a bug
he looked vods last weeks and it wasnt there so he thought its no more in map ... not his fault great played

u guys do like its a fungame ... its their LIFE the money is their life ... guys you do EVERYTHING you can for win at least at its fair and byun could have nO idea its a bug ... so no his fault ...

No pretty sure he knew it was a bug. Doesn't matter though. It's not his fault for taking every advantage he can.

Zerofinal

Thailand136 Posts

July 13 2012 10:43 GMT

#585

expellist

Singapore7 Posts

July 13 2012 10:46 GMT

#586

OMFG , are u kidding me? I feel so awfully bad for Nestea right now. If it had happened on ladder, i would just be a game. But, this is the GSL ro8 man, and alot of prize money is on the line as well. It just isn't fair to state that the game is over and henceforth just apologize and end of story. There either needs a regame or a compensation of some sort at least.

Scrubwave

Poland1786 Posts

July 13 2012 10:51 GMT

#587

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turdburgler

England6749 Posts

July 13 2012 11:03 GMT

#588

On July 13 2012 19:20 nam nam wrote:

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they would of been told if there was intentional changes to the map pool, gom didnt tell anyone that anything has changed. its pretty obvious it was a mistake. but because only 1 guy noticed its ok?

what?

Shyndashu

United States136 Posts

July 13 2012 11:14 GMT

#589

I was kinda upset to see the no depot. I stayed up til like 8 AM EST to watch that night's GSL and was cheering on Nestea. I think that was a big mental hit to him going into the series. But I do give it to Byun for playing well, but can't help to think if Nestea was affected by it or not. There must be a lot of pressure on him to try catching up to MVP in titles and live up to his legend.

sibs

635 Posts

July 13 2012 11:44 GMT

#590

@Orek, and other people: Double bunker is easy to stop, but near impossible to stop if you think you're safe vs it, a drone patrolling on the bottom of ramp will stop it.

GOM should have pointed out to players they changed the map.

It doesnt matter Nestea "would" have lost anyway, its fucked up anyways.

KaRath_

Australia245 Posts

July 13 2012 12:04 GMT

#591

With the updated information, kudos to Nestea and IM for dealing with it in such an honourable way. It may have been his loss, but glad to see him being mature and realistic about it and accepting it. +even more respect

Sorkoas

549 Posts

July 13 2012 12:08 GMT

#592

On July 13 2012 19:46 expellist wrote:
OMFG , are u kidding me? I feel so awfully bad for Nestea right now. If it had happened on ladder, i would just be a game. But, this is the GSL ro8 man, and alot of prize money is on the line as well. It just isn't fair to state that the game is over and henceforth just apologize and end of story. There either needs a regame or a compensation of some sort at least.

You're making it sound like this cheese is impossible to hold. Nestea has done hatch first builds since the first GSL seasons back in 2010 and the double bunker/triple pylons blocks were used a lot back then already. They added neutral depots in tournaments like GSL but not on ladder, so I'm sure he gets abused by this on a weekly basis during practice.

Fencar

United States2694 Posts

July 13 2012 12:43 GMT

#593

Edit: delete this post

SnipedSoul

Canada2158 Posts

July 13 2012 12:45 GMT

#594

Did you even watch the games? Byun outplayed Nestea. Nestea probably thinks he would have lost regardless of the neutral depot so complaining would just make him look like a whiner.

crbox

Canada1181 Posts

July 13 2012 13:01 GMT

#595

I think Nestea would've lost anyways. Very professional reaction nonetheless by both Nestea and the coach. Sucks that it happened, but meh, shit happens.

DidYuhim

Ukraine1905 Posts

July 13 2012 13:08 GMT

#596

It's sort of wierd that these sorts of things actually do happen. There should be a double-check by both mapmakers and GSL staff that games are played on the correct versions of the map or players should get noticed about such changes. A little bit unprofessional on the GSL side.

Well, another victory for prime, I guess.

aintz

Canada5624 Posts

July 13 2012 13:13 GMT

#597

nesteas reaction yesterday to the bunker rushes was just not very good. even in set one he saw the proxy rax and scvs but he failed to block with drones and got killed.

but yes it does suck to be bunker rushed twice in a row. its not as easy to stop as some ppl think it is.

Ballack

Norway821 Posts

July 13 2012 13:14 GMT

#598

Why on earth does this thread have 30 pages, is there really that much to talk about regarding this?

aristarchus

United States652 Posts

July 13 2012 13:16 GMT

#599

GSL deserves a lot of professionalism credit here. Obviously the most professional thing is for this not to happen, but this is a level of response that most leagues wouldn't give. I still remember watching some early-ish season of NASL as they seemed to carefully make sure that they used every existing version of Tal'Darim Altar other than the one they were supposed to use, and never said anything. You can tell that Korean fans hold GSL to the standards of professional sports, and GSL responds by acting like it. I'll be happy when foreign leagues get to that level.

Zato-1

Chile4253 Posts

July 13 2012 13:30 GMT

#600

On the one hand, I feel sorry for Nestea for being "cheated" out of a game.

On the other hand, looking at this from Byun's perspective... why didn't he inform GSL of this bug, choosing to exploit it instead? Very unsportsmanlike from Byun, I'm disappointed in him.