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Really funny how people send such hateful emails to sponsors when they can't even give in a simple compliment when they would really appreciate it. Consistency, consistency.
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On May 04 2012 23:49 sad.wish wrote:
What kind of post is this? so now we think we are the police of the community, and now i have get out of my house and eliminate racism?
What kind of EU trash logic is that?
Oh man! More discriminatory talk!
My virgin ears!
TL Admins, please ban this man for his outrageous slandering of the logical capabilities of our european brethren!
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On May 04 2012 23:53 AnalThermometer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:41 reptile wrote:
As an open minded individual who completely dismisses the idea of "being offended," it's disappointing that people felt the need to push this far to punish someone for using their ability to express themselves. I'll continue supporting and watching Destiny, not because of how he plays or what he plays, but because of the person he is. My head hurts, if you're open minded you shouldn't be outright dismissing something then.
Lawyered!
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I honestly think that Quantic wasn't hell-bent on firing Destiny TBH. Moreso, I feel that Destiny decided to leave the team because him staying would only hurt people rather than help. If that's the case, good on him.
But god I hope this community simmers down a bit.
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On May 04 2012 23:51 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:49 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:47 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:40 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:38 Treva wrote:On May 04 2012 23:19 RodrigoX wrote:
I just don't get these things anymore.
It's just insane, literally, a perfect term is we are lynching people, without due process. Like, the community are a part of the freaking Salem Witch Trails. We are being judge, jury, executioner, and supreme asshole. We are not letting these events, process long enough. We are not letting objective questions, and none emotional responces govern things. We are being fucking crazy ass fiends, who just do whatever we want without any semblance of order or intelligence. We are running off emotions, and making all of us look like asses, to everybody, everywhere.
Get a grip Sc2 community, we are honestly pathetic. No, what's insane is the people who try to defend him. I literally cannot understand whatsoever how people try to defend Destiny when he uses racial slurs. I've seen countless people try to defend why he should be allowed to say it. There are very, very few industries that you can actually get people to defend you when you call someone a derogatory racial slur, and esports is apparently and unfortunately one of them. What do you want us to do? He uses a racial slur on his stream that thousands of people are watching, a thread is made, he comes into the thread saying he would rather keep using those kinds of terms instead of issuing an apology and shows no interest in changing. No one is asking for Destiny to stop saying anything, no one is asking him to be a completely different person, however this whole situation is easily avoided, if people just stop using those words. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Don't call someone a racial slur, don't get this shit fest. Works 100% of the time. If you can't control your emotions enough to not call someone a racial slur then you have some real anger issues. Go ahead and call someone trash or bad or shit or garbage but when you bring their race, gender or ethnicity into it then you are crossing the line into a very personal attack, which makes you look like an immature punk. The part of this community that is 'pathetic' are the people who come in here and tell people to just get over it, grow thicker skin or stop being sensitive. That's absurd. Maybe some people can get offended easily than others but telling them that they should just get over it when someone throws around language like that is just ignorant. That excuse doesn't hold up in the real world and if we're trying to make this look professional why should it hold up here? Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you should get a free pass to act like a racist idiot. This guy understands it, If you are defending Destiny and think we are pathetic cause we don't want racist, prejudice kids representing our community. Then so be it, we are pathetic as a community....... You are kids, not we. We defend Destiny because we know that making Destiny stop using racial slurs won't purge racism from the world. The only way to ultimately get rid of racism is to accept the fact that by cencoring words, you are encouraging its power. You are kids, because you do not understand that we're not white knights on horses whose purpose is to save the world from evil. We're an online community for a videogame, not an online forum for politics. Stop pretending you can make an impact on the world, because you cannot. By having a player from this community punished you are not contributing towards your so-called "goal" of purging racism. You are harming the community. Stop acting, get a grip, grow up and go out. If you want to contribute towards the elimination of racism, then start by accepting the fact, that for aslong as you cencor racial slurs, then you are filling them with meaning and hate. Having a player removed from his StarCraft 2 Team will NOT make an impact. What kind of post is this? so now we think we are the police of the community, and now i have get out of my house and eliminate racism? What kind of EU trash logic is that? It is your so-called goal. Or perhaps you want to admit to have started this situation based on personal hate towards Destiny, and not because you want to eliminate racism afterall? PS: we all see your hate. You are losing your grip. You did not prepare for this.
Did you not see my earlier post???
I emailed razer from 8 different emails, with 8 different well written essays....
if you write 3 page essays, they listen.
I got him booted from his team, and banned from TL for a bit.
Well worth it it only helped esports to rid us of his behavior.
If he does not change, i can assure you the pitch forks will come out again.
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next station ratz? i heard they don't give a shit.
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Still have only seen 2 people in this thread admit to emailin sponsors. How telling that all the people bashing destiny won't say whether they emailed the sponsors. Guess they want to keep hiding so that their little tattle-tale urge won't be revealed.
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On May 04 2012 23:54 Qibla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:53 AnalThermometer wrote:On May 04 2012 23:41 reptile wrote:
As an open minded individual who completely dismisses the idea of "being offended," it's disappointing that people felt the need to push this far to punish someone for using their ability to express themselves. I'll continue supporting and watching Destiny, not because of how he plays or what he plays, but because of the person he is. My head hurts, if you're open minded you shouldn't be outright dismissing something then. Lawyered!
You must have graduated from a TTT to think that was anything remotely close to lawyering
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On May 04 2012 23:53 Treva wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:43 natebreen wrote:On May 04 2012 23:40 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:38 Treva wrote:On May 04 2012 23:19 RodrigoX wrote:
I just don't get these things anymore.
It's just insane, literally, a perfect term is we are lynching people, without due process. Like, the community are a part of the freaking Salem Witch Trails. We are being judge, jury, executioner, and supreme asshole. We are not letting these events, process long enough. We are not letting objective questions, and none emotional responces govern things. We are being fucking crazy ass fiends, who just do whatever we want without any semblance of order or intelligence. We are running off emotions, and making all of us look like asses, to everybody, everywhere.
Get a grip Sc2 community, we are honestly pathetic. No, what's insane is the people who try to defend him. I literally cannot understand whatsoever how people try to defend Destiny when he uses racial slurs. I've seen countless people try to defend why he should be allowed to say it. There are very, very few industries that you can actually get people to defend you when you call someone a derogatory racial slur, and esports is apparently and unfortunately one of them. What do you want us to do? He uses a racial slur on his stream that thousands of people are watching, a thread is made, he comes into the thread saying he would rather keep using those kinds of terms instead of issuing an apology and shows no interest in changing. No one is asking for Destiny to stop saying anything, no one is asking him to be a completely different person, however this whole situation is easily avoided, if people just stop using those words. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Don't call someone a racial slur, don't get this shit fest. Works 100% of the time. If you can't control your emotions enough to not call someone a racial slur then you have some real anger issues. Go ahead and call someone trash or bad or shit or garbage but when you bring their race, gender or ethnicity into it then you are crossing the line into a very personal attack, which makes you look like an immature punk. The part of this community that is 'pathetic' are the people who come in here and tell people to just get over it, grow thicker skin or stop being sensitive. That's absurd. Maybe some people can get offended easily than others but telling them that they should just get over it when someone throws around language like that is just ignorant. That excuse doesn't hold up in the real world and if we're trying to make this look professional why should it hold up here? Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you should get a free pass to act like a racist idiot. This guy understands it, If you are defending Destiny and think we are pathetic cause we don't want racist, prejudice kids representing our community. Then so be it, we are pathetic as a community....... Don't you think you're being a bit selective, which is the crux of Destiny's argument? You're ok with violence, terms like "owned" hm... gee.. wonder where the term owned came from.... Yet you draw the line at someone using a racial slur in a "raging" or joking manner. Are you telling me you've never called a female a bitch, or someone a moron, or retard? You don't EVER stereotype people based on race? Destiny isn't the chicken. He's part of the group of eggs that are everyone in the community of gamers in our generation. He didn't create the slang used, or the offensive nature, or the CONFLICT that is inherent in games. You want to WIN, and someone else will LOSE. When you are the loser, you lash out. It's natural. Putting importance and meaning to the words of an irrational emotional person who just lost a game that they play for a living is a fucking joke. That's the problem, you somehow see his rage as joking. Calling someone a fucking faggot then telling them to fuck off g**k doesn't really seem like a joke, especially after the person whom he said it to makes a thread about it complaining. Again I understand that when you lose you can get frustrated but I'll reiterate what I said in my OP, when you make it a personal attack then that's crossing the line. Also to all this 'where do we draw the line' bullshit is tiresome, I keep seeing people posting it. How about we start at racial attacks. Seems like a pretty good place to draw the first line here.
So if you posted every replay you've ever played, every chat log from your messengers, and every conversation with your friends, you've never called someone a "fucking retard" or "bitch" or "moron" or "faggot" or "dyke" or any of the above?
You're a pure person who uses only the terms outlined as objectively morally acceptable by every group in existence who might take offense?
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On May 04 2012 23:52 Bout2plucku wrote:
now if people would stop watching his stream.....
Idra: "Apologize for playing that race."
Destiny: "Apologize for being that race."
Point being: you can be an asshole without being a bigot/racist.
Well played sir, well played.
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On May 04 2012 23:47 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:39 GizmoPT wrote:On May 04 2012 23:37 revel8 wrote:On May 04 2012 23:31 KadaverBB wrote:On May 04 2012 23:23 Xercen wrote:On May 04 2012 23:23 Pwnographics wrote:On May 04 2012 23:21 Xercen wrote:On May 04 2012 23:15 Pwnographics wrote:On May 04 2012 23:14 Xercen wrote:On May 04 2012 23:07 Pwnographics wrote:
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So instead of using 'gook', Destiny used 'dumassfuck retard'. You'd be satisfied?
No because that would be discriminatory based on a person's disability. Hey I can name at least 10 streamers who have used retard on their stream, wanna write to their sponsors with me too? I didn't write to any sponsors. I didn't even know about this until i saw this post and read up on it. But yeah you should tell those streams to stop using offensive language. Good man! No because I enjoy it, like many others. If people don't like watching streams with profanity you don't have to. Yeah that's why i don't! I watch stephano stream. Funny how stephano doesn't need profanity to draw in a ton of viewers. He can get viewers by being funny and with good skills and commentary. A real professional progamer. Destiny needs to learn a few things from stephano about managing the public. Really? yesterday stephano called hasuobs a nazi and asked him how many jews he killed last night. Why aren't there threads up already? That was totally racist and shit. Just for the record, i thought it was fucking funny and i am german. Hasu and Stephano are friends. They know each other professionally and socially. They engaged in banter based on their personal relationship. Stephano called Hasu a Nazi and asked how many Jews he had killed. Hasu made a response implying Stephano was an Arab terrorist. Both players were fine with this level of banter. They happily engaged in friendly chat after the match. Don't pretend that these situations are comparable. I thought it was obvious that people address people they are friends with differently to random strangers. Hasu or Stephano have not complained about the content of this chat. If they are comfortable with it, then there is no need for controversy. lol ? even if they are friends couldnt a jew be offended ? or a arab ? thats not excuse.. anyway all this offended crap is stupid f the esports police!  The telling issue is whether Hasu was offended. You can ask him if you like. You can ask Stephano if he was offended by Hasu. It was friendly banter based on an existing relationship with previously established levels of banter. Stephano also has a weird banter with JYP where he calls him big-head. Friends can have private in-jokes. That is very different from insulting strangers. Do I really need to explain that?
You haven't been following the issue have you? The original guy who brought all this up on destiny admited himself to no be offended by the word gook, as well as the majority of people posting (including those hating on him). the issue apparently is not if he offended someone but that words are forbidden because someone, somewhere might be hurt by these forbidden words not directed at them.
so if you think the issue is whether the receiver of a word was or not offended then it should be a non issue here because warden admitted not to be. also, stephano called Pomi stupid a couple days ago, and he meant it? is that less wrong that calling him a racially charged word?
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On May 04 2012 23:54 sad.wish wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:51 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:49 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:47 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:40 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:38 Treva wrote:On May 04 2012 23:19 RodrigoX wrote:
I just don't get these things anymore.
It's just insane, literally, a perfect term is we are lynching people, without due process. Like, the community are a part of the freaking Salem Witch Trails. We are being judge, jury, executioner, and supreme asshole. We are not letting these events, process long enough. We are not letting objective questions, and none emotional responces govern things. We are being fucking crazy ass fiends, who just do whatever we want without any semblance of order or intelligence. We are running off emotions, and making all of us look like asses, to everybody, everywhere.
Get a grip Sc2 community, we are honestly pathetic. No, what's insane is the people who try to defend him. I literally cannot understand whatsoever how people try to defend Destiny when he uses racial slurs. I've seen countless people try to defend why he should be allowed to say it. There are very, very few industries that you can actually get people to defend you when you call someone a derogatory racial slur, and esports is apparently and unfortunately one of them. What do you want us to do? He uses a racial slur on his stream that thousands of people are watching, a thread is made, he comes into the thread saying he would rather keep using those kinds of terms instead of issuing an apology and shows no interest in changing. No one is asking for Destiny to stop saying anything, no one is asking him to be a completely different person, however this whole situation is easily avoided, if people just stop using those words. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Don't call someone a racial slur, don't get this shit fest. Works 100% of the time. If you can't control your emotions enough to not call someone a racial slur then you have some real anger issues. Go ahead and call someone trash or bad or shit or garbage but when you bring their race, gender or ethnicity into it then you are crossing the line into a very personal attack, which makes you look like an immature punk. The part of this community that is 'pathetic' are the people who come in here and tell people to just get over it, grow thicker skin or stop being sensitive. That's absurd. Maybe some people can get offended easily than others but telling them that they should just get over it when someone throws around language like that is just ignorant. That excuse doesn't hold up in the real world and if we're trying to make this look professional why should it hold up here? Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you should get a free pass to act like a racist idiot. This guy understands it, If you are defending Destiny and think we are pathetic cause we don't want racist, prejudice kids representing our community. Then so be it, we are pathetic as a community....... You are kids, not we. We defend Destiny because we know that making Destiny stop using racial slurs won't purge racism from the world. The only way to ultimately get rid of racism is to accept the fact that by cencoring words, you are encouraging its power. You are kids, because you do not understand that we're not white knights on horses whose purpose is to save the world from evil. We're an online community for a videogame, not an online forum for politics. Stop pretending you can make an impact on the world, because you cannot. By having a player from this community punished you are not contributing towards your so-called "goal" of purging racism. You are harming the community. Stop acting, get a grip, grow up and go out. If you want to contribute towards the elimination of racism, then start by accepting the fact, that for aslong as you cencor racial slurs, then you are filling them with meaning and hate. Having a player removed from his StarCraft 2 Team will NOT make an impact. What kind of post is this? so now we think we are the police of the community, and now i have get out of my house and eliminate racism? What kind of EU trash logic is that? It is your so-called goal. Or perhaps you want to admit to have started this situation based on personal hate towards Destiny, and not because you want to eliminate racism afterall? PS: we all see your hate. You are losing your grip. You did not prepare for this. Did you not see my earlier post??? I emailed razer from 8 different emails, with 8 different well written essays.... if you write 3 page essays, they listen. I got him booted from his team, and banned from TL for a bit. Well worth it it only helped esports to rid us of his behavior. If he does not change, i can assure you the pitch forks will come out again.
This is the worst kind of behavior for eSports. Thanks for taking us down at least two pegs.
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On May 04 2012 23:54 sad.wish wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:51 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:49 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:47 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:40 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:38 Treva wrote:On May 04 2012 23:19 RodrigoX wrote:
I just don't get these things anymore.
It's just insane, literally, a perfect term is we are lynching people, without due process. Like, the community are a part of the freaking Salem Witch Trails. We are being judge, jury, executioner, and supreme asshole. We are not letting these events, process long enough. We are not letting objective questions, and none emotional responces govern things. We are being fucking crazy ass fiends, who just do whatever we want without any semblance of order or intelligence. We are running off emotions, and making all of us look like asses, to everybody, everywhere.
Get a grip Sc2 community, we are honestly pathetic. No, what's insane is the people who try to defend him. I literally cannot understand whatsoever how people try to defend Destiny when he uses racial slurs. I've seen countless people try to defend why he should be allowed to say it. There are very, very few industries that you can actually get people to defend you when you call someone a derogatory racial slur, and esports is apparently and unfortunately one of them. What do you want us to do? He uses a racial slur on his stream that thousands of people are watching, a thread is made, he comes into the thread saying he would rather keep using those kinds of terms instead of issuing an apology and shows no interest in changing. No one is asking for Destiny to stop saying anything, no one is asking him to be a completely different person, however this whole situation is easily avoided, if people just stop using those words. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Don't call someone a racial slur, don't get this shit fest. Works 100% of the time. If you can't control your emotions enough to not call someone a racial slur then you have some real anger issues. Go ahead and call someone trash or bad or shit or garbage but when you bring their race, gender or ethnicity into it then you are crossing the line into a very personal attack, which makes you look like an immature punk. The part of this community that is 'pathetic' are the people who come in here and tell people to just get over it, grow thicker skin or stop being sensitive. That's absurd. Maybe some people can get offended easily than others but telling them that they should just get over it when someone throws around language like that is just ignorant. That excuse doesn't hold up in the real world and if we're trying to make this look professional why should it hold up here? Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you should get a free pass to act like a racist idiot. This guy understands it, If you are defending Destiny and think we are pathetic cause we don't want racist, prejudice kids representing our community. Then so be it, we are pathetic as a community....... You are kids, not we. We defend Destiny because we know that making Destiny stop using racial slurs won't purge racism from the world. The only way to ultimately get rid of racism is to accept the fact that by cencoring words, you are encouraging its power. You are kids, because you do not understand that we're not white knights on horses whose purpose is to save the world from evil. We're an online community for a videogame, not an online forum for politics. Stop pretending you can make an impact on the world, because you cannot. By having a player from this community punished you are not contributing towards your so-called "goal" of purging racism. You are harming the community. Stop acting, get a grip, grow up and go out. If you want to contribute towards the elimination of racism, then start by accepting the fact, that for aslong as you cencor racial slurs, then you are filling them with meaning and hate. Having a player removed from his StarCraft 2 Team will NOT make an impact. What kind of post is this? so now we think we are the police of the community, and now i have get out of my house and eliminate racism? What kind of EU trash logic is that? It is your so-called goal. Or perhaps you want to admit to have started this situation based on personal hate towards Destiny, and not because you want to eliminate racism afterall? PS: we all see your hate. You are losing your grip. You did not prepare for this. Did you not see my earlier post??? I emailed razer from 8 different emails, with 8 different well written essays.... if you write 3 page essays, they listen. I got him booted from his team, and banned from TL for a bit. Well worth it it only helped esports to rid us of his behavior. If he does not change, i can assure you the pitch forks will come out again.
do you really think its because of you ? lol... this guys.. you the cancer from TL
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On May 04 2012 23:55 adrenaLinG wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:54 Qibla wrote:On May 04 2012 23:53 AnalThermometer wrote:On May 04 2012 23:41 reptile wrote:
As an open minded individual who completely dismisses the idea of "being offended," it's disappointing that people felt the need to push this far to punish someone for using their ability to express themselves. I'll continue supporting and watching Destiny, not because of how he plays or what he plays, but because of the person he is. My head hurts, if you're open minded you shouldn't be outright dismissing something then. Lawyered! You must have graduated from a TTT to think that was anything remotely close to lawyering
Sue me!
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On May 04 2012 23:54 sad.wish wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:51 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:49 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:47 Pantythief wrote:On May 04 2012 23:40 sad.wish wrote:On May 04 2012 23:38 Treva wrote:On May 04 2012 23:19 RodrigoX wrote:
I just don't get these things anymore.
It's just insane, literally, a perfect term is we are lynching people, without due process. Like, the community are a part of the freaking Salem Witch Trails. We are being judge, jury, executioner, and supreme asshole. We are not letting these events, process long enough. We are not letting objective questions, and none emotional responces govern things. We are being fucking crazy ass fiends, who just do whatever we want without any semblance of order or intelligence. We are running off emotions, and making all of us look like asses, to everybody, everywhere.
Get a grip Sc2 community, we are honestly pathetic. No, what's insane is the people who try to defend him. I literally cannot understand whatsoever how people try to defend Destiny when he uses racial slurs. I've seen countless people try to defend why he should be allowed to say it. There are very, very few industries that you can actually get people to defend you when you call someone a derogatory racial slur, and esports is apparently and unfortunately one of them. What do you want us to do? He uses a racial slur on his stream that thousands of people are watching, a thread is made, he comes into the thread saying he would rather keep using those kinds of terms instead of issuing an apology and shows no interest in changing. No one is asking for Destiny to stop saying anything, no one is asking him to be a completely different person, however this whole situation is easily avoided, if people just stop using those words. That's it. It's really not that complicated. Don't call someone a racial slur, don't get this shit fest. Works 100% of the time. If you can't control your emotions enough to not call someone a racial slur then you have some real anger issues. Go ahead and call someone trash or bad or shit or garbage but when you bring their race, gender or ethnicity into it then you are crossing the line into a very personal attack, which makes you look like an immature punk. The part of this community that is 'pathetic' are the people who come in here and tell people to just get over it, grow thicker skin or stop being sensitive. That's absurd. Maybe some people can get offended easily than others but telling them that they should just get over it when someone throws around language like that is just ignorant. That excuse doesn't hold up in the real world and if we're trying to make this look professional why should it hold up here? Just because you're on the internet doesn't mean you should get a free pass to act like a racist idiot. This guy understands it, If you are defending Destiny and think we are pathetic cause we don't want racist, prejudice kids representing our community. Then so be it, we are pathetic as a community....... You are kids, not we. We defend Destiny because we know that making Destiny stop using racial slurs won't purge racism from the world. The only way to ultimately get rid of racism is to accept the fact that by cencoring words, you are encouraging its power. You are kids, because you do not understand that we're not white knights on horses whose purpose is to save the world from evil. We're an online community for a videogame, not an online forum for politics. Stop pretending you can make an impact on the world, because you cannot. By having a player from this community punished you are not contributing towards your so-called "goal" of purging racism. You are harming the community. Stop acting, get a grip, grow up and go out. If you want to contribute towards the elimination of racism, then start by accepting the fact, that for aslong as you cencor racial slurs, then you are filling them with meaning and hate. Having a player removed from his StarCraft 2 Team will NOT make an impact. What kind of post is this? so now we think we are the police of the community, and now i have get out of my house and eliminate racism? What kind of EU trash logic is that? It is your so-called goal. Or perhaps you want to admit to have started this situation based on personal hate towards Destiny, and not because you want to eliminate racism afterall? PS: we all see your hate. You are losing your grip. You did not prepare for this. Did you not see my earlier post??? I emailed razer from 8 different emails, with 8 different well written essays.... if you write 3 page essays, they listen. I got him booted from his team, and banned from TL for a bit. Well worth it it only helped esports to rid us of his behavior. If he does not change, i can assure you the pitch forks will come out again.
Your personal hate will get you in trouble.
Stop using racism as an excuse to have particular players you don't like removed, simply because you're far too retarded to simply leave his stream.
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On May 04 2012 23:50 Xercen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:38 kcbgoku wrote:
You think Destiny is a racist? I guess you do. Maybe you should read something about racism first, or ask someone about it.
You think telling this to sponsors will help anyone?
No, it's just hurting everyone around.
This discussion is a waste of time. Some of you are arguing about things you have no clue about. I don't know where all smart people are. Probably they're too smart to participate in this nonsense. I'm going to join them now. The point in question is that Destiny did say a racist term and quantic/eports/sponsors don't like that sort of thing. I have no idea why the question of Destiny being a racist (with a neo nazi mentality) is being brought up because it doesn't bring anything to the table. Do you actually believe that if Destiny isn't a racist at heart then it will be ok and fine for him to insult other races? Do you believe that if Destiny didn't have a neo nazi mentality that that would mean he could say racist things without hurting others? He said something that was wrong. He got sacked by quantic because they have sponsors to please. Nuff said. That's what happened and it was the right call. I challenge any one of you who backs destiny to post a youtube video with your face showing spewing racist terms. I mean if Destiny isn't a racist yet he uses racist terms then why can't you do the same on youtube? But none of you will do that...because you are all scared to do so. Because people don't like people saying racist things regardless of whether they have the neo nazi mentality or not.
Destiny is an easy target cauz he blabbers a lot (some people like it, some people hate it). You live in the U.K. right? Walk to your local pub and listen to all the racist jokes going around. Then sue them all. Go on. Or are you just satisifed with one guy across the Atlantic losing his sponsor? Go on then.
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On May 04 2012 23:51 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2012 23:47 revel8 wrote:On May 04 2012 23:39 GizmoPT wrote:On May 04 2012 23:37 revel8 wrote:On May 04 2012 23:31 KadaverBB wrote:On May 04 2012 23:23 Xercen wrote:On May 04 2012 23:23 Pwnographics wrote:On May 04 2012 23:21 Xercen wrote:On May 04 2012 23:15 Pwnographics wrote:On May 04 2012 23:14 Xercen wrote:
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No because that would be discriminatory based on a person's disability.
Hey I can name at least 10 streamers who have used retard on their stream, wanna write to their sponsors with me too? I didn't write to any sponsors. I didn't even know about this until i saw this post and read up on it. But yeah you should tell those streams to stop using offensive language. Good man! No because I enjoy it, like many others. If people don't like watching streams with profanity you don't have to. Yeah that's why i don't! I watch stephano stream. Funny how stephano doesn't need profanity to draw in a ton of viewers. He can get viewers by being funny and with good skills and commentary. A real professional progamer. Destiny needs to learn a few things from stephano about managing the public. Really? yesterday stephano called hasuobs a nazi and asked him how many jews he killed last night. Why aren't there threads up already? That was totally racist and shit. Just for the record, i thought it was fucking funny and i am german. Hasu and Stephano are friends. They know each other professionally and socially. They engaged in banter based on their personal relationship. Stephano called Hasu a Nazi and asked how many Jews he had killed. Hasu made a response implying Stephano was an Arab terrorist. Both players were fine with this level of banter. They happily engaged in friendly chat after the match. Don't pretend that these situations are comparable. I thought it was obvious that people address people they are friends with differently to random strangers. Hasu or Stephano have not complained about the content of this chat. If they are comfortable with it, then there is no need for controversy. lol ? even if they are friends couldnt a jew be offended ? or a arab ? thats not excuse.. anyway all this offended crap is stupid f the esports police! The telling issue is whether Hasu was offended. You can ask him if you like. You can ask Stephano if he was offended by Hasu. It was friendly banter based on an existing relationship with previously established levels of banter. Stephano also has a weird banter with JYP where he calls him big-head. Friends can have private in-jokes. That is very different from insulting strangers. Do I really need to explain that? Right, because none of those viewers are Jewish who have family members who were holocaust victims? If Destiny is reprimanded for a silly word, then Stephano should too. It's the exact same thing. The hypocrites people are, it's mind blowing. Some people find it unbelievable not everyone is riding the Destiny hate-train. I find it unbelievable that people are saying that Stephano has the right to joke about such things whereas Destiny doesn't. It's the exact same issue.
It is not the same issue at all.
Stephano's words were insensitive. No doubt. However he was addressing them to Hasu. It appears to be an in-joke between Hasu and Stephano. Was Hasu offended? Go and ask him. Are you saying that friends are not allowed private in-jokes now?
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So instead of using 'gook', Destiny used 'dumassfuck retard'. You'd be satisfied?
No because that would be discriminatory based on a person's disability. Hey I can name at least 10 streamers who have used retard on their stream, wanna write to their sponsors with me too? I didn't write to any sponsors. I didn't even know about this until i saw this post and read up on it. But yeah you should tell those streams to stop using offensive language. Good man! No because I enjoy it, like many others. If people don't like watching streams with profanity you don't have to. Yeah that's why i don't! I watch stephano stream. Funny how stephano doesn't need profanity to draw in a ton of viewers. He can get viewers by being funny and with good skills and commentary. A real professional progamer. Destiny needs to learn a few things from stephano about managing the public. Really? yesterday stephano called hasuobs a nazi and asked him how many jews he killed last night. Why aren't there threads up already? That was totally racist and shit. Just for the record, i thought it was fucking funny and i am german. Hasu and Stephano are friends. They know each other professionally and socially. They engaged in banter based on their personal relationship. Stephano called Hasu a Nazi and asked how many Jews he had killed. Hasu made a response implying Stephano was an Arab terrorist. Both players were fine with this level of banter. They happily engaged in friendly chat after the match. Don't pretend that these situations are comparable. I thought it was obvious that people address people they are friends with differently to random strangers. Hasu or Stephano have not complained about the content of this chat. If they are comfortable with it, then there is no need for controversy. lol ? even if they are friends couldnt a jew be offended ? or a arab ? thats not excuse.. anyway all this offended crap is stupid f the esports police! The telling issue is whether Hasu was offended. You can ask him if you like. You can ask Stephano if he was offended by Hasu. It was friendly banter based on an existing relationship with previously established levels of banter. Stephano also has a weird banter with JYP where he calls him big-head. Friends can have private in-jokes. That is very different from insulting strangers. Do I really need to explain that?
First off, no. My post of how I feel about this is above, but I'm going to play Devils advocate because apparently you don't understand.
The fact of whether or not Hasu was offended is completely irrelevant. By the standards this community is setting, Stephano said something racist, so that means the team he represents and the sponsors who support him are associated with a racist. So leading by example, any viewer/sponsor/PERSON who was offended by what Stephano said should go complain to sponsors until actions taken.
Did I really need to explain that?
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So when is he leaving starcraft2 for good and move to LoL he'll make more money there and the community there wont mind on his bigotry
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