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teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
May 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1501
On May 02 2012 03:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Lol if you don't like it, don't watch. Its so simple!



I don't watch, ever . LOL
who said i watch him?
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1502
There are a lot of people in this community who are really fucking hypocrites. It's really incredible. There are people who are going to say "OK, when destiny had his own stream and shit, he could say really offensive things. Fuck me, I didn't care, I just didn't watch the stream". Now he has a sponsor and what happens? All of a sudden, people are offended by it. All of a sudden, people care. Destiny has been using "offensive" words since forever, but now that he has a sponsor people seem to "care" all of a sudden.

The thing that most people don't seem to understand is that it's not THEIR problem. It's the sponsor's problem. Not theirs. If people didn't care about Destiny's vocabulary before then they're hypocrites to start complaining about it now. If the sponsor has a problem with it, let THEM deal with it. Let Razer/Quantic talk with Destiny. Up till now though, there have been no problems. So why are people so concerned with Destiny vocabulary?

I'm shocked and appalled. I don't know who some of you people think you are, meddling with affairs that don't concern you. If Destiny offends you, watch another stream, or turn off your computer and go do something productive. We don't need sleazy white knights who think that they're doing good by whining about something that neither Destiny, his fans, Quantic or Razer have had a problem with.

Some of you need to take a good hard look at themselves. Especially considering none of you are activists against racism. None of you are actively doing things to help prevent racism. You're just getting on this disgusting hate-wagon. Appalling.



Destiny, if you're still reading this thread, I'm still a big fan of yours. I love your commentary, I love your wits and even in this thread I got a couple of good chuckles. I also appreciate the points you sometimes bring up on stream and I enjoy hearing you debate with people (there are a few good youtube vids). Screw the haters.
maru lover forever
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:55:19
May 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1503
What a joke. This forum has developed a band of etiquette vigilantes that E-mail sponsors every time somebody says something offensive on the internet. And now we have one side E-mailing Razer calling for Destiny's head and the other side saying to keep sponsoring Quantic, all while everyone is arguing about hurting E-sports.

Do you guys really think E-mailing sponsors is the solution? Do you think these companies are going to think it's just one bad apple and move on? No, they are going to see the mouthbreathing shitstorm of Emails and say, "Holy fuck, what a mess. Getting involved in E-sports was a bad idea."

You guys are actually making the white knights look good. That takes some dedicated retardation.

And all because the OP wanted to brag about his win against Destiny, lol.

User was warned for this post
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
May 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1504
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
Goozen
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel701 Posts
May 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1505
As much as people dont like it, as it is at the moment, banter has its place in the game to throw your opponent off. The main problem is e-sports hasn't decided if its chess or basketball as far as whats acceptable. True SC seems on the more chess side of the example but games like CoD, SF2 etc have allot of banter involved. The main issue here is that he just raged flamed and that served no purpose other then to vent and he went overboard with it. When playing people like Destiny you can expect this behaviour and or respond in kind or block and report. However coming to TL like a tattle just makes you look petty and shows that what he wrote got to you.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
May 01 2012 18:53 GMT
#1506
Discourse like the one found in this thread is how social "racism" is perpetuated, IMO. By creating such a fuss about one person's choice of words gives even more power to those words.

Then again, giving full disclosure, I am a middle-class white male that grew up in a predominately white rural community. I probably lack perspective.

I just feel like anyone who has the means to be part of a community involving a video game, also has the means to choose the content that will entertain them without feeling uncomfortable (e.g. watch another stream).

PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
May 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1507
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Ya gonna spend probably your rest of your life trying to see him fail, he will not. Nice try tho, those cool phrases and shit.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
May 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1508
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Nobody deserves a witchhunt.
Thank God and gunrun.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
May 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1509
On May 02 2012 03:52 babylon wrote:
I have no issue with bringing social justice issues to the table; what I'm annoyed about is people trying to pretend they actually care about social justice when all they want to do is create more drama and subject yet another community figure to a witchhunt. I highly doubt more than 10% of the people complaining in this thread about Destiny's language actually do anything outside of lambasting people on the internet to promote social justice when confronted with problems in the real world.

If you're gonna try to get Destiny fired, sure, go right ahead, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're making a "big change," especially considering the usual gaming population. Until your concern for these issues steps outside of "I'm going to make a post on the internet about it and then email the sponsors, let me feel good about myself for stamping out the use of racist slurs on a stream watched by a miniscule portion of the population, many of whom use it themselves and/or have encountered it before and have no issues with hearing it or using it in every day life and who couldn't care less if Destiny loses his team so long as he continues to stream," then ... well, I hope you see where I'm going here. What will emailing the sponsors do? Well, in one scenario, a major SC2 team loses its sponsorship and ... people still continue to use whatever words they want. In another, Destiny gets kicked and people still continue to use whatever words they want. Yet in another, nothing happens and people still continue to use whatever words they want.

Hit the nail right on the head.

I could not agree more.
I love crazymoving
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
May 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1510
On May 02 2012 03:53 sad.wish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Lol if you don't like it, don't watch. Its so simple!



I don't watch, ever . LOL
who said i watch him?

Then you really shouldn't have an opinion on a discussion about what goes on during his stream right?
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
May 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1511
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


When you lose a game, you say GG and leave... or u just leave the game....
Why do you have to get mad and get racist about it?
Follow me @H2O_teaCher ..... www.pmsclan.com
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 01 2012 18:54 GMT
#1512
On May 02 2012 03:53 sad.wish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Lol if you don't like it, don't watch. Its so simple!



I don't watch, ever . LOL
who said i watch him?


So why do you care so much, why have you been "fed up with him for such a long time'? If someone used racist terms in RL you probably wouldn't do a damn thing, but someone says gook in a video game and suddenly you think something must be done and his career must end.

Strong priorities in TL kids.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1513
The insanity needs to stop. Racial slurs are always wrong. Racial slurs are also a part of racism. If Destiny is streaming video games while occasionally making racial slurs and he is being paid directly / indirectly from a team and or big companies then these companies are sponsoring racist behavior and this is not appropriate. It's as simple as that.

If Destiny is not being paid shit, then fine say all the racial slurs you want. The only detriment is to the viewers. But if some company is paying you for streaming and they know Destiny is shouting racial slurs then this company is actively supporting racism. In fact, they are encouraging this behavior because in the end all they care about is how many people buy their product and if Destiny can be used as a tool for marketing then let it be; why would they care if he uses racism to achieve this goal?

Racism has only relatively recently been recognized as a human crime and we still have a lot of work to eradicate it from our societies. Holding people accountable for their racial slurs is a step in the right direction. I won't support companies that support racist behavior. End of story.
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1514
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


Normal people are perhaps not in their right mind.

People who play games as a career are completely capable of maintaining themselves after a loss, or they wouldn't be in that position.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1515
On May 02 2012 03:46 Lunit wrote:
Why is this always coming up? If you don't like it then don't pay attention to it or don't watch his stream. People that complain about things like this is immature. Maybe its immature for him to do stuff like that but be more mature and ignore it. There is many people who watch his stream and like antics like this because they believe its funny. So just get real people come on.



What is with these "If you dont like it dont pay attention to it" but in the same post its "ignore it"?

If he has the right by your definition to say all this stuff, then people have a right to discuss it and contact whomever they want to.

Its immature to complain about it but its not immature to call someone a gook? Really? Because you make no mention of that at all


And why is it always coming up? Well let me tell you, go outside the door and find me 1 company in your city that would condone any of this, ONE, find 1 company that would not terminate a employees contract and potentially fine them for this? Find me 1 bar/social gathering place that would accept it? Find me 1 school/college that would allow it?

The real world you see, does not accept this and tries everything to eliminate it. Can you figure out why this is such a big deal? Maybe because they dont find it funny
★ Top Gun ★
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1516
Why are people immediately going to the sponsors crying? Email quantic if anyone. Don't you reddit folks understand that you're actually ruining esports with mails like that?
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1517
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Your life is pretty depressing if you're serious about that
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1518
On May 02 2012 03:54 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:53 sad.wish wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Lol if you don't like it, don't watch. Its so simple!



I don't watch, ever . LOL
who said i watch him?

Then you really shouldn't have an opinion on a discussion about what goes on during his stream right?


Nah, actually i do, cause people like this need consequences to their actions
My email to Razer is well written
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Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 18:56:48
May 01 2012 18:55 GMT
#1519
as suggested by Boss of EV on Orb's issue before

I would also ask that, in the future, if you're unhappy with something that happens in eSports, you guys give the offending party a chance to respond and/or act before seeking vigilante justice via contacting said party's sponsors.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319018
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 01 2012 18:56 GMT
#1520
Its called entertainment. Not everyone watches streams to learn or just get a better understanding. Some people watch for the fun and general hilarity of it. Skill isn't what its all about and it doesn't have to be all about the game.

I'm starting to think that NonY was right when he said we appreciate the drama more than we appreciate the game.

Which is exactly what was said. People appreciate the drama more than the game.
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