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Esk23
Profile Joined July 2011
United States447 Posts
May 01 2012 18:43 GMT
#1461
Who fcking cares what he says, go cry to your mommy. Unbelievable.

User was temp banned for this post.
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
May 01 2012 18:43 GMT
#1462
On May 02 2012 03:37 zidaneshead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:29 PeachTea wrote:
I think Destiny is pretty genuine.


Yeah...a genuine racist douchebag.

User was warned for this post


Not sure why I was warned for this, a featured streamer on TL using racist language against someone with TL doing nothing about it, yet a strong opinion of the person without sinking to such depths is worth a warning...hmm.
teaCher
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada521 Posts
May 01 2012 18:44 GMT
#1463
On May 02 2012 03:43 hasuterrans wrote:
Gaming communities are one of the last places racist, sexist, and homophobic language is not only tolerated but supported and defended by many community members. I emailed Razer b/c I'm tired of this shit. Arguing on an internet forum with those who think it's ok to call people faggots and niggers is the epitome of pointless.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 02:36 pirsq wrote:
How to email Razer:

1. Go to http://www.razersupport.com/index.php?_m=tickets&_a=submit

2. Click "Public Relations - USA"

3. Type in a message like the following:
Dear Razer,

I have purchased many Razer products over the last several years, and am glad that some of my money has been spent on the Starcraft 2 community. However, I am disgusted by the behaviour of one of the teams you sponsor, Quantic Gaming.

Steven "Destiny" Bonnell, a member of Quantic Gaming, is a popular entertainer known for his angry outbursts. He frequently hurls racist abuse on his stream, an example of which can be found at http://i.imgur.com/iaSWu.jpg

This behaviour is unacceptable. Bonnell was dropped from his previous team, Complexity Gaming, for this behaviour, and Quantic Gaming signed him up with full knowledge of this.

I will not purchase any more products from Razer, and will encourage my friends to not purchase any products from Razer, until Razer ceases sponsorship of Steven Bonnell, either through his dropping by Quantic Gaming, or a cessation of sponsorship for Quantic Gaming as a whole.

(Sign here)


4. Fill in your name and email, and click submit


Yah man, you are right.
Follow me @H2O_teaCher ..... www.pmsclan.com
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
May 01 2012 18:44 GMT
#1464
On May 02 2012 03:43 zidaneshead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:37 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:29 PeachTea wrote:
I think Destiny is pretty genuine.


Yeah...a genuine racist douchebag.

User was warned for this post


Not sure why I was warned for this, a featured streamer on TL using racist language against someone with TL doing nothing about it, yet a strong opinion of the person without sinking to such depths is worth a warning...hmm.


What was in the PM regarding the warning?
EG-TL!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
May 01 2012 18:44 GMT
#1465
On May 02 2012 03:42 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:40 TheKefka wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:39 Sinensis wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:38 TheKefka wrote:
Hey guys if you have the time and determination for sending emails to teams and sponsors to get a person fired go here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=333137&currentpage=5 and leave a nice message of support.
CHANNEL THE GOOD ZERGLING IN YOU FFS I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT.peace love and armory


Don't post that here you edit that out right this second. Seriously please get that project out of this thread.

You don't trust people to have a heart?:<


No. Not these fans; not right now. These are locusts you're talking about, not grasshoppers. The witchhunt has begun and the mob won't be quenched until someone gets lynched.

Well you can't just ban people for 2 days and expect it to get better,need to show people a way to spend their time on tl more productive.
Cackle™
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
May 01 2012 18:45 GMT
#1466
On May 02 2012 03:44 pt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:43 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:37 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:29 PeachTea wrote:
I think Destiny is pretty genuine.


Yeah...a genuine racist douchebag.

User was warned for this post


Not sure why I was warned for this, a featured streamer on TL using racist language against someone with TL doing nothing about it, yet a strong opinion of the person without sinking to such depths is worth a warning...hmm.


What was in the PM regarding the warning?


"poor choice of words"

lol...
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
May 01 2012 18:45 GMT
#1467
Players throw around insults in every single sport/competition known to man. It's not condoned, but it happens, it hardly warrants a thread being made because of a personal insult towards YOU that was not in the public eye. If this happened at an event or a publicly streamed show match, then sure, you could make this thread and Quantic would probably take action. It isn't up to the community or anyone else to decide how Destiny acts, it is up to himself and his team. If you don't like it, don't support him, don't watch his stream. It's that simple.

SC is already one of the most mannered gaming communities out there, a few bad eggs is hardly going to change that. And yet, Destiny still averages around 4-5k viewers, and IdrA around 9-10k I think? Obviously people are still watching and supporting them more than most other streamers, so I don't see what the big deal is.

I love crazymoving
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
May 01 2012 18:45 GMT
#1468
On May 02 2012 03:43 Trowa127 wrote:
I think this thread proves Teamliquid is as bad as Reddit, if not worse. Disgusting. Do you people not having anything better to do?


I guarantee that everyone getting up in arms about this 'controversy' belongs to reddit. I'm seeing a lot of names that I have never seen before suddenly sprouting up.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18832 Posts
May 01 2012 18:45 GMT
#1469
On May 02 2012 03:43 zidaneshead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:37 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:29 PeachTea wrote:
I think Destiny is pretty genuine.


Yeah...a genuine racist douchebag.

User was warned for this post


Not sure why I was warned for this, a featured streamer on TL using racist language against someone with TL doing nothing about it, yet a strong opinion of the person without sinking to such depths is worth a warning...hmm.

I can only assume it was your eloquent implementation of the word "douchebag".
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
nitix
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria2 Posts
May 01 2012 18:46 GMT
#1470
On May 02 2012 03:37 hysterial wrote:
Destiny is one of those guys that makes me ashamed that he is held in such high regard. The argument that words dont hurt only the meaning of how they are said is a joke and he doesnt live in the real world. He lives in some fantasy land where everything is ok and he won't change. He doesn't care and never will.


You basically called him autistic.
What are your sponsors?

User was banned for this post.
Lunit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States183 Posts
May 01 2012 18:46 GMT
#1471
Why is this always coming up? If you don't like it then don't pay attention to it or don't watch his stream. People that complain about things like this is immature. Maybe its immature for him to do stuff like that but be more mature and ignore it. There is many people who watch his stream and like antics like this because they believe its funny. So just get real people come on.
thatsundowner
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada312 Posts
May 01 2012 18:46 GMT
#1472
On May 02 2012 03:40 IMoperator wrote:
I'm sure everyone here has said something inappropriate when they're frustrated, why is this such a big deal to people?


If it was just saying something inappropriate while frustrated it wouldn't be as big a deal. It would still be unacceptable, but this thread wouldn't be 70+ pages. Remember the orb situation only got bad when he tried to pretend that it wasn't him that said it. He tried to dodge responsibility for his actions and got axed for it.

In this case, it's not necessarily that Destiny called the guy a "gook" it's that he sees nothing wrong with his actions and treats it like a joke.
"you're gonna fail" in latin
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1473
On May 02 2012 03:41 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:39 leo23 wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:33 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:24 leo23 wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
1. This is Destiny's personality.
2. Surely Quantic knew about this, as it's nothing new or well-hidden.
3. You all-inned him, which could very well piss him off (as any person may BM you for it).

We don't need an Orb 2.0 here.


double standards at its best!


Except EG (read as: Alex Garfield) apparently wasn't aware of orb's prior offenses. Quantic is aware of Destiny's stream. EG supposedly never would have signed orb if they had known orb's personality. Quantic feels it's acceptable to hire Destiny, even given his *colorful* personality.

I'm not saying that Quantic is necessarily less professional than EG (hell, IdrA is on EG, right?); I'm just saying that different things are being considered for individuals when they're added to a team's roster. When a team adds Person A, they assume they're going to get X, Y, and Z. If they get something negative that they didn't expect, that could be a dealbreaker. Quantic surely expected negative backlash at some point from Destiny's stream, especially after the orb scandal. EG probably didn't expect such things from orb in the first place, especially since he was just being added as a caster.

So perhaps it's a double standard when talking about ignoring or acknowledging racism, but it's still important to distinguish the difference between expecting negative attention from one of your players (and being okay with it in the grand scheme of things because he- overall- does more good than bad for your team), and getting unexpected negative attention for your team.


fair enough. however,

should the team/community accept racial/ethnic slurs? i mean where do you draw the line right?


The team/community shouldn't accept people too fucking idiotically stupid not to use the mature language filter or block features if their delicate sensibilities might be offended.

Also, anyone who emailed the sponsors negatively is a disgrace to the community and are literally trying to kill esports, they should be banned, and anyone posting directions on how to email the sponsors should be permabanned.

User was temp banned for this post.

User was warned for this post


Your post is so out of line that I hope you are joking. You can't shut down any form of dissent just to preserve some vague, sacred notion of "esports". If there's a problem, it has to be addressed, not swept under the rug.

Personally, I don't get offended by these types of things but I do like Warden, he's a good guy, and his points aren't unreasonable.
Blixy213
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States360 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1474
This has been debated countless times, he even held a quite long debate on the matter, where he took calls and defended himself on the matter.

Although I'm not saying it's right, Quantic knew Destiny's way of playing the game, and how he acted through BM'ing others. He gets upset and says things, like everybody else. I'm sure you can find those VODs around on youtube somewhere and that'll shed some light on what I'm talking about.

Btw I <3 Destiny.
#1 sKyHigh and MorroW fan. "Should have stayed in the bush, bush reaper."
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1475
On May 02 2012 03:28 acrimoneyius wrote:
Most intelligent people can inference that Destiny is not racist based on the circumstances of the screenshot and his take on language usage. Using racist terms usually doesn't even mean you're a racist by the internet's standard. I feel really sorry for you if you were offended by being called a 'gook' because you cheesed him out of a video game, the real world must be really rough for you.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:15 act.hero wrote:
Destiny is a person. He has the right to say whatever he wants. You're allowed to be racist.

It's disgusting that people think it's okay to try to force others to act a certain way. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

If Destiny's words hurt you, don't watch his stream. He is a person playing a fucking video game. I hope he continues offending you people, because I want you to continue to be upset. You deserve not to feel good, and I'm glad Destiny exists to cause you this pain.


I laughed. Your statement would probably be more accurate if you replaced the word act with speaks. Example: "He should be able to murder people, how dare someone try to stop him!" Of course people are expected to act a certain way. Language is a different issue entirely. There are certain places where you don't use certain language (school, church, work, etc). Someone might be able to loosely argue that Destiny was at his 'work place', but you'd be grasping at straws for the most part.

The difference is that if you kill someone you are violating someone else's right to live.
He's got a right say what he wants just like you have a right to not tune in.

This really has a simple solution, if you are offended by what goes on during his stream then don't tune in and vote with your 1 viewership.
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1476
On May 02 2012 03:45 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:43 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:37 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:29 PeachTea wrote:
I think Destiny is pretty genuine.


Yeah...a genuine racist douchebag.

User was warned for this post


Not sure why I was warned for this, a featured streamer on TL using racist language against someone with TL doing nothing about it, yet a strong opinion of the person without sinking to such depths is worth a warning...hmm.

I can only assume it was your eloquent implementation of the word "douchebag".


Would I have not been repremanded if I called him a "dumb cracker" or something of the sort?
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1477
On May 02 2012 03:43 zidaneshead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:37 zidaneshead wrote:
On May 01 2012 22:29 PeachTea wrote:
I think Destiny is pretty genuine.


Yeah...a genuine racist douchebag.

User was warned for this post


Not sure why I was warned for this, a featured streamer on TL using racist language against someone with TL doing nothing about it, yet a strong opinion of the person without sinking to such depths is worth a warning...hmm.

You're posting on TL. If you post here you are subjected to our moderation which includes no flaming or personal attacks.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
ivirj
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico79 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1478
I had no idea who is Destiny. I had no idea who is Quantic.

This is basically free promotion, oh god kespa cant come soon enough.
La violencia es el ultimo recurso del incompetente - Asimov
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
May 01 2012 18:47 GMT
#1479
I'm starting to think that NonY was right when he said we appreciate the drama more than we appreciate the game. The fact that there is always ~3,000 viewers for his stream, even though he is a low/mid-tier pro at best, is a testament to the fact that some people actually like his crude brand of humor. Let them have it.

This exactly.

I always thought it was funny how some of these streamers that are top tier players get less then 1k viewers.

Look at Axslav for example. He isn't top tier just yet, but he's getting there. He explains exactly why he is doing things, why he lost and what exactly he is scouting/looking for and how exactly he plans on countering it. He is probably one of the more influential players out there for Protoss players. But now how many viewers does he get? I don't think I've ever seen him get over 1k viewers. Which is a shame since he is one of the better streamers out there.
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
hollabackk
Profile Joined December 2010
118 Posts
May 01 2012 18:48 GMT
#1480
I cannot believe we are having this discussion for the umpteenth time. There is a harsh language warning is right next to his stream. These are just words, please stop making them into anything but words, it doesn't make Destiny a racist for using nigger or gook.

Let's remember again, these are words, don't watch the stream with the language warning symbol if words bother you.
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