EPTOn May 02 2012 02:55 Firesilver wrote:
Hahaha, this is the Destiny I love! Bro, keep doing what you used to do, you still have a bunch of loyal fans regardless of slurs and giggles. NMHU's seal of approval.
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NMHU.
Canada110 Posts
Hahaha, this is the Destiny I love! Bro, keep doing what you used to do, you still have a bunch of loyal fans regardless of slurs and giggles. NMHU's seal of approval. | ||
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ThomasHobbes
United States197 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:58 FairForever wrote: Well EG got rid of Orb. There will always be rude individuals playing SC2, just like in soccer, basketball, etc. But when a major Starcraft II team actively endorses the content (in this case, Quantic and Destiny), it is extremely problematic. Which is why EG made the right move in getting rid of Orb, and Quantic needs to do the same. The difference between Orb to EG and Destiny to Quantic is like night and day. | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:56 SovietHammer wrote: My email to razor, in an attempt to mitagate any damage done by this poor judment: "Razor is my favored company when it comes to the purchase of gaming equipment. The company's support of the StarCraft player Steven "Destiny" Bonnell has increased my desire to purchase razor products in the future. I appreciate razor's commitment to supporting eSports and its players, and I would simply like to say thank you." Attempting to slander a promineate player in the community for expressing emotion does in no why help this game, scene, or any players related to esports. Hope others would follow suit. If anyone have time to write to sponsors, they should be writing positively. | ||
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Strike_
Netherlands704 Posts
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
I'm sorry, but you were forced by whom to watch his stream No one is forcing anyone to watch is stream, but its beyond that. He is one of the many faces of Starcraft 2. His choice words that he uses time and time again can severely tarnish the Starcraft 2 eSports scene/image. Using these choice words especially, knowing how big Starcraft 2 is in some of these Asian countries. Though not making lesser of the other racial/ethnic slurs he uses. | ||
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
As I said, I don't care about either of the so called "offenses". But either Destiny will recieve the same treatment or the community / TL says that enough is enough, let's not make this a trend. But then orb was the guinea pig. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:55 goswser wrote: Sick account that was created to post in this thread bro. I like how your name is parkjimo, why is that? Want to make a name that sounds asian so you have more of a right to be offended? GTFO It's illogical anger like this which defines racists and their apologists. I think that we, as a community, have to show a clear opposition to such attitudes by contacting razer and quantic or by asking for Destiny to be removed from the featured streams. If we just continue to let these things go unanswered then the Starcraft community will become the fighting game community. | ||
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Toastie
Netherlands104 Posts
but Destiny is acting like such a child with this. See the twitter message, see the replies joking and trying to make fun of everybody with arguments. Look at all his minions screaming at everybody. I'm sorry ESports/Quantic. I am messaging Razer so Destiny gets hurt in the only place he really cares about - his income. | ||
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SherlockTV
Canada14 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:49 FairForever wrote: This has to be one of the best posts. People complain and want SC2 to gain legitimacy, even cheering on MLG and CBSi partnership, but do you think it will ever last if this is what happens? I agree with this first post whole heartedly and could not come up with the words that this person came up with so eloquently. | ||
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Digitalis
United States1043 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:56 SovietHammer wrote: My email to razor, in an attempt to mitagate any damage done by this poor judment: "Razor is my favored company when it comes to the purchase of gaming equipment. The company's support of the StarCraft player Steven "Destiny" Bonnell has increased my desire to purchase razor products in the future. I appreciate razor's commitment to supporting eSports and its players, and I would simply like to say thank you." Attempting to slander a promineate player in the community for expressing emotion does in no why help this game, scene, or any players related to esports. It's actually spelled 'Razer' just fyi, it might actually help if you actually spell the company name correctly. | ||
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Leafren
Belgium66 Posts
If you think Destiny swears/offends/whatever too much, don't watch his stream. It is that simple. If Destiny thinks it's OK to use words like nigger, gook, etc, on his stream that's his damn right. However distasteful you or I find it. Freedom of speech. Personally I don't see why you would routinely use words like nigger or faggot, I'm one of those types that does go out of his way a bit to avoid offending people. However, I'm not entirely convinced Destiny's behaviour is bad for esports, I think it has little to no effect on it at all. If we want esports to grow (soon to be the most cliché sentence), by definition it will include a wider variety of characters and viewpoints. Does any of the world's sports stop growing because players misbehave (in your view that is)? | ||
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On May 02 2012 03:00 Toastie wrote: So, actually, I am against mailing sponsors, but Destiny is acting like such a child with this. See the twitter message, see the replies joking and trying to make fun of everybody with arguments. Look at all his minions screaming at everybody. I'm sorry ESports/Quantic. I am messaging Razer so Destiny gets hurt in the only place he really cares about - his income. Destiny does not get paid salary by Quantic IIRC, he mentioned earlier that his income is via coaching and ad revenue from streaming, therefore that plan will not work. | ||
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Thraxx
United Kingdom90 Posts
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ThomasHobbes
United States197 Posts
On May 02 2012 03:00 Fueled wrote: No one is forcing anyone to watch is stream, but its beyond that. He is one of the many faces of Starcraft 2. His choice words that he uses time and time again can severely tarnish the Starcraft 2 eSports scene. Using these choice words especially, knowing how big Starcraft 2 is in some of these Asian countries. Though not making lesser of the other racial/ethnic slurs he uses. Why do you think he's popular in the Community? Is because he's boring, tame, and makes non-controversial comments on his streams? Or is because of what's exemplified by this thread and his response to it? I never really liked Destiny, but I can respect him more now knowing that he's willing to defend what he does. | ||
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Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:58 FairForever wrote: Well EG got rid of Orb. There will always be rude individuals playing SC2, just like in soccer, basketball, etc. But when a major Starcraft II team actively endorses the content (in this case, Quantic and Destiny), it is extremely problematic. Which is why EG made the right move in getting rid of Orb, and Quantic needs to do the same. I haven't seen any such statement from Quantic condoning his actions. Also by your logic its OK if some nub pulls this crap but somehow when an asshat who has viewers it matters more? please quit spouting off bullshit you fucking hypocrite. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Jell
Portugal86 Posts
On May 02 2012 03:00 Toastie wrote: So, actually, I am against mailing sponsors, but Destiny is acting like such a child with this. See the twitter message, see the replies joking and trying to make fun of everybody with arguments. Look at all his minions screaming at everybody. I'm sorry ESports/Quantic. I am messaging Razer so Destiny gets hurt in the only place he really cares about - his income. You aren't hurting Destiny, you're hurting every other player on Quantic and their team. Destiny major income is his stream and his youtube. But if you're fine with hurting a team and a big e-sports sponsor go for it! | ||
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WritersBlock
Canada91 Posts
To quote the guy from clerks 2, lets take it back! | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
On May 02 2012 02:52 KristianJS wrote: The fact that you are comparing the offensiveness of the word "murdered" to people who've experienced murder in the family, with words like "faggot" and "nigger" is completely absurd. There were not millions of people enslaved and systematically abused on the basis that someone in their family had been murdered. People don't get beaten to death on account of them being a Hiroshima survivor. They do for "being a faggot". Actually, I've lived in Japan, and study Japan as part of my studies. Nuclear survivors from Hiroshima and Nagasaki are systematically discriminated in Japan, and talking about nukes as something casually, is absolutely not taken lightly in regards to people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His points can be said to be valid, especially about nukes. I don't agree with the motion of "being offended" by specific words myself. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On May 02 2012 03:01 Leafren wrote: sigh @ the white knights circle jerk If you think Destiny swears/offends/whatever too much, don't watch his stream. It is that simple. If Destiny thinks it's OK to use words like nigger, gook, etc, on his stream that's his damn right. However distasteful you or I find it. Freedom of speech. Personally I don't see why you would routinely use words like nigger or faggot, I'm one of those types that does go out of his way a bit to avoid offending people. However, I'm not entirely convinced Destiny's behaviour is bad for esports, I think it has little to no effect on it at all. If we want esports to grow (soon to be the most cliché sentence), by definition it will include a wider variety of characters and viewpoints. Does any of the world's sports stop growing because players misbehave (in your view that is)? Freedom of speech also encompasses the right to complain directly to his sponsors, does it not? There's a reason the NBA, NFL, etc. take strong stances against violence, controversial comments, etc. - these can all lead to suspensions and fines, even though these leagues are the premier ones and continually grow regardless. | ||
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