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On May 02 2012 08:59 PiQLiQ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 08:56 Whiplash wrote:On May 02 2012 08:49 PiQLiQ wrote:
And people says i'm bad mannered because i never talk in game? I never talk in a Starcraft2 game. I don't defend anyone but this thread is just silly imo talk with Destiny if you have a problem with the way he types in game. People often view saying nothing as a sign of disrespect. So i should be called a bad mannered person because i don't talk in a computer-game when i know if i talk i might get bad mannered back? That's idiotic imo. This is why i never debate in forums normally. Teamliquid is amazing that's the only reason why i'm here otherwise i wouldn't be.
Just curious, where the hell have you been piqliq? lol
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On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media! Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit? How fucking mad are you right now, bro? User was warned for this post
Is probably the main reason for why he was banned. Just for your general edification.
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On May 02 2012 09:01 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. I am thinking, you clearly have it wrong. there is no double standard. A person of the same race saying it is not the same as a person outside of it. Please try again.
Look at the post directly above this one that you just made, please.
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On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once.
another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.
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On May 02 2012 08:59 PiQLiQ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 08:56 Whiplash wrote:On May 02 2012 08:49 PiQLiQ wrote:
And people says i'm bad mannered because i never talk in game? I never talk in a Starcraft2 game. I don't defend anyone but this thread is just silly imo talk with Destiny if you have a problem with the way he types in game. People often view saying nothing as a sign of disrespect. So i should be called a bad mannered person because i don't talk in a computer-game when i know if i talk i might get bad mannered back? That's idiotic imo. This is why i never debate in forums normally. Teamliquid is amazing that's the only reason why i'm here otherwise i wouldn't be.
Slap 'em in the face and reel 'em back in with your kindness. I'm not surprised you don't talk in games, since your opponents probably wouldn't understand your mixed messages.
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I can't believe i just made an account to respond to this Thread, but after reading the first 75 Pages in the last hours i am just shocked.
There are really people out there, that get "offended" by this? To explain my thoughts:
1. I think that all the drama is leading to the exact opposite of what is wanted: When someone insults someone he wants to hit him in some way and because the normal "fucks" or "faggots" are widely acceptet, he has to cross some borders and for example use racist vocabulary. Yes by saying this i state, that i think Destiny knew exactly that his words are considered racist by some, are crossing an unspoken border. I think that the people who are making a fuss about it are therefore partly in fault for the usage of these words.
Furthermore by giving these "racist" words a special treatment they are supporting racism. Somebody already said this, i think, and was questioned about it but did not answer to the page i read. This point may be arguable, but i think there is the possibility, that treating these words special and therefore admitting that a "racist" insult is worse then something like "faggot, i hope you die" are supporting racism, because in their heads there is a difference between these insults. If someone is insulted by something it should be treated equally no matter what the topic is. But ok, this may be arguable and is not that important.
2. I never thought that people really thought of todays professional sport / political scene as something good. I thought that the hypocrisy was disliked by the majority, but now i must read that people WANT them to wear masks and not saying what they think. This is probably which i like most about the esport scene: They are on most parts more honest and don't have to reconsider every word they speak because someone somewhere may think he is offended by it. I like the honest asshole much more than the lying nice guy. Why is today racism still a problem? Because people are nice on the outside and when they think they are unwatched by society are letting out all their hatred (which they got because they are not allowed to let it out, they think that there must be some kind of a big conspiracy, because they are forbidden to say what for them is an undeniable truth. This may go too far, but i think that it is no coincidence that many extremists are thinking there is some kind of conspiracy, but again this is arguable and not that important).
3. To come back to my starting point: There are really people who think someone new to the scene clicks on a "featured link" and, after reading the warning of offensive language, proceed and then getting really pissed by something like "gook", a word i (and a friend of mine born in vietnam) didn't even know, so they will turn away from the whole scene and especially think "wow, razer supports racists, i never will buy their products again"? I always thought this type of people was only invented by bad TV show in which older people complain about how rotten the youth is. If they don't think that will happen and the OP stated that he was not thinking Destiny was racist, why are they complaining about the situation? Seriously, this is not a rhetoric question, i want to understand. (If you respond to this: "I am getting offended by this and i will not buy products from someone who supports such player" please explain to me why. I am feeling like if this is the situation not Destiny is the problem but you are, because you are offended by something which has to do nothing with you and thereby creating the whole fuss.)
Conclusion: Without taking it to a personal level, i think the attitude displayed by some here is a big part of what i dislike in today's society. Getting upset about something just for the reason of improving their status, washing themselves from those sins. They are projecting something (i would like to call it self-hatred, but that would probably too easy, because i actually don't understand them enough.) onto others and thereby forcing the society to become hypocritical to an unbearable degree.
I honestly can't believe that all these posts are made by people, who are "offended" and not by people who are just hating destiny (a thing i can understand, i don't like him so i did not watch his stream often) and searching for a method to destroy him. I don't WANT to believe it. I probably was never so sad about the community / mankind.
Am i mad? Yes to a certain degree, i am.
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Never figured out why his sponsors have been so lax about it when you'd think people would be at the very least concerned by repeated usage of racial slurs. It's kind of hilarious in a way seeing people share their sorrow when tragic news articles are posted and then watching the same people turn around and condone racial slurs. I thought the "n" word was something that wasn't universally okay to use and people would generally be bothered by it? But apparently it is. But wait, it's not okay for Orb to use! That's right, it must be that only special Caucasians have the right to use racial slurs.
I seriously wonder how some of the people here don't realize how hypocritical they are. If you're not on a team and you're streaming whatever crap you want, it's up to you whether you bash every player and use every slur in the book, although there should be no reason to unless you need an extreme amount of anger management. And if you're that carefree about it why not man up and use racial slurs in public? Whoops that's right you're only safe in your bedroom. Unless you're Orb. Point is, I think Destiny's a great guy and all but why oh why are sponsors okay with limitless usage of racial slurs? Isn't that supposed to create a bad image and ultimately be negative for the community? If Destiny wasn't on a team that wouldn't matter, but he is. Put your thinking caps on buds.
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On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.
So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?
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On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.
As I said to him, if he feels so strongly go say it to someone in real life.
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On May 02 2012 09:01 ABagOfFritos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:01 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. I am thinking, you clearly have it wrong. there is no double standard. A person of the same race saying it is not the same as a person outside of it. Please try again. Look at the post directly above this one that you just made, please.
your viewpoint is very narrow and reminiscent of suburbia.
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On May 02 2012 09:04 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger. As I said to him, if he feels so strongly go say it to someone in real life.
Since you seem to have missed it.
On May 02 2012 09:01 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
Please watch your language, I find such use of "retarded" offensive as I know other people who are retarded. I don't think that type of speech is acceptable.
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So, isn't it time to close this thread  ? Complaint filed, complaint handled, time to lock and let it sink to the bottom of the forum.
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On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger. So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?
well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.
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On May 02 2012 09:04 ABagOfFritos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:04 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger. As I said to him, if he feels so strongly go say it to someone in real life. Since you seem to have missed it. Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:01 FabledIntegral wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
Please watch your language, I find such use of "retarded" offensive as I know other people who are retarded. I don't think that type of speech is acceptable.
I didn't miss it. there is no contradiction, not even close to it. You have no argument. Nath is right. You're a bitter white kid who thinks people are against white people.
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On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media! Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit? How fucking mad are you right now, bro? User was warned for this post
Kudos to those of you that defend this "man" 
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On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger. So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you? well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.
So we still are of the impression that 150 year old history is an okay way to decide that certain people can say certain words? You know what, not a goddamn piece of that makes a lick of sense.
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He should be banned by Blizzard if anything not by TL.
Deezer and other known cheaters are not banned
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destiny got we he deserved, he would really benefit from a more positive attitude.
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On May 02 2012 09:06 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 09:04 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 09:04 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward. I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once. another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger. As I said to him, if he feels so strongly go say it to someone in real life. Since you seem to have missed it. On May 02 2012 09:01 FabledIntegral wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
Please watch your language, I find such use of "retarded" offensive as I know other people who are retarded. I don't think that type of speech is acceptable. I didn't miss it. there is no contradiction, not even close to it. You have no argument. Nath is right. You're a bitter white kid who thinks people are against white people.
I like this post. Truly I do.
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On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.
I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.
This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that. OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you. You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.
This type of comment has always baffled me. There is some sort of idea held by white people that if a white person calls a black person "nigger" that the white person will instantly get assaulted. Granted it happens sometimes but do you have any idea how many times every single day some racist non-black person calls a random black person that word? The response most of the time is either anger or amusement or a little bit of both, but someone saying something mean to you is very rarely a justification for violence. Usually it escalates into shit talking and that's about it. If the victim of the racial slur is prone to violence then they may react violently, but a sane person won't assault someone over words, usually.
Keep in mind I'm not condoning racism, I think it's absolutely horrible, but I also think that the notion of violence in response to being called a name is also absolutely horrible and unjustified.
If someone comes up to me and calls me a stupid lazy spic or something I would be more amused than anything else tbh.
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