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Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 00:10:11
May 02 2012 00:08 GMT
#2461
i still dont get it. i am a fan of destiny, watch is stream all the time and i think he is a pretty smart guy.


but his ban/hate doesnt make sense to me. this thread was made specifically to address his racist comments (and to be completely honest, i think this entire thread was made by a very elaborate troll in an attempt to make destiny follow the same faith as orb, but i wont go there)

gook is a racist comment sure, but what about everything else destiny says on his stream? why is a racist comment such a hardcore rage button for so many ppl?

what about faggot? retard? what about the fact that he makes fun of autism people and people with down syndrome? what about the fact that he wishes death on alot of ppl he is angry at?

that is what im not understanding. why did it take a racist comment for destinys actions to get noticed FFS?

again, i am a fan of him and nothing he says bothers me at all, but holy fuck, fair is only fair. instead of focusing on ONE word focus on everything he fucking says. that is a serious case of tunnel vision (tunnel hearing?) right there.


if its not ok for him to say racial slurs, then is also not ok for him to insult a mentally handicapped child nor is it ok for him to insult someones sexuality/intelligence. ALL of those words are equally offensive.

gook/nigger=faggot on the offensiveness scale

gook/nigger=retard on the offensivness scale

but here is how the great SC2 community views it

gook/nigger>>>>>>>>>>>faggot

gook/nigger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>retard.

i find that silly.


try calling a black guy nigger on the street, chances are he will kick ur ass.

call that same black guy a faggot on the street, same chances are he will kick ur ass.

call that same black guy a retard on the street, chances are he will kick ur ass.

in all 3 cases ur ass will be kicked. funny how its different on the internet tho.
Jorkel
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
May 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#2462
One time someone said something mean to me on the internet too and I cried to my mother....ultimately she called me a pussy and told me to go to my room
sc2>nap>school
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#2463
On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once.

another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.

So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


yeah so racism is ok because one is worse racism then the other....
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
May 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#2464
On May 02 2012 09:03 Morufi1 wrote:
I can't believe i just made an account to respond to this Thread, but after reading the first 75 Pages in the last hours i am just shocked.

There are really people out there, that get "offended" by this? To explain my thoughts:

1. I think that all the drama is leading to the exact opposite of what is wanted: When someone insults someone he wants to hit him in some way and because the normal "fucks" or "faggots" are widely acceptet, he has to cross some borders and for example use racist vocabulary. Yes by saying this i state, that i think Destiny knew exactly that his words are considered racist by some, are crossing an unspoken border. I think that the people who are making a fuss about it are therefore partly in fault for the usage of these words.
Furthermore by giving these "racist" words a special treatment they are supporting racism. Somebody already said this, i think, and was questioned about it but did not answer to the page i read. This point may be arguable, but i think there is the possibility, that treating these words special and therefore admitting that a "racist" insult is worse then something like "faggot, i hate you die" are supporting racism, because in their heads there is a difference between these insults. If someone is insulted by something it should be treated equally no matter what is the topic. But ok, this may be arguable and is not that important.

2. I never thought that people really thought of todays professional sport / political scene as something good. I thought that the hypocrisy was disliked by the majority, but now i must read that people WANT them to wear masks and not saying what they think. This is probably which i like most about the esport scene: They are on most parts more honest and don't have to reconsider every word they speak because someone somewhere may think he is offended by it. I like the honest asshole much more than the lying nice guy. Why is today racism still a problem? Because people are nice on the outside and when they think they are unwatched by society are letting out all their hatred (which they got because they are not allowed to let it out, they think that there must be some kind of a big conspiracy, because they are forbidden to say what for them is an undeniable truth. This may go too far, but i think that it is no coincidence that many extremists are thinking there is some kind of conspiracy, but again this is arguable and not that important).

3. To come back to my starting point: There are really people who think someone new to the scene clicks on a "featured link" and, after reading the warning of offensive language, proceed and then getting really pissed by something like "gook", a word i (and a friend of mine born in vietnam) didn't even know, so they will turn away from the whole scene and especially think "wow, razer supports racists, i never will buy their products again"? I always thought this type of people was only invented by bad TV show in which older people complain about how rotten the youth is. If they don't think that will happen and the OP stated that he was not thinking Destiny was racist, why are they complaining about the situation? Seriously, this is not a rhetoric question, i want to understand. (If you respond to this: "I am getting offended by this and i will not buy products from someone who supports such player" please explain to me why. I am feeling like if this is the situation not Destiny is the problem but you are, because you are offended by something which has to do nothing with you and thereby creating the whole fuss.)


Conclusion: Without taking it to a personal level, i think the attitude displayed by some here is a big part of what i dislike in today's society. Getting upset about something just for the reason of improving their status, washing themselves from those sins. They are projecting something (i would like to call it self-hatred, but that would probably too easy, because i actually don't understand them enough.) onto others and thereby forcing the society to become hypocritical to an unbearable degree.

I honestly can't believe that all these posts are made by people, who are "offended" and not by people who are just hating destiny (a thing i can understand, i don't like him so i did not watch his stream often) and searching for a method to destroy him. I don't WANT to believe it. I probably was never so sad about the community / mankind.
Am i mad? Yes to a certain degree, i am.


TL:DR - I couldn't get past point 1. Calling people faggots is not widely accepted by anything other than the lowest common denominator. Resorting to racism is not some way to drive some point home, or anything else. It's a little troll, hiding behind the anonimity of the internet, or in Destiny's case, hiding behind his fan-base to say whatever the fuck he wants, consequence free. Obviously this kid's parents never taught him manners. It's a shame that TL moderators have to do this, but let's hope old dogs can learn new tricks, and that Destiny grows out his "persona".
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Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
May 02 2012 00:09 GMT
#2465

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#2466
On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once.

another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.

So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.

along this vein, i feel like context is important to delve into briefly here. i mean, as stated above, i will agree that black people calling whites crackers is insulting and wrong. however, i feel like no one, white OR black, cares as much because, you know, even if they were crackers, they had a good life, they were the boss in the cracker-nigger relationship.

its like if 'baller' was a white racial slur and 'bitch' was a black racial slur, they incite different images -- one as dominant, and one as submissive. i feel like cracker incites a "entitled sheltered white dude" which is insulting, but nigger incites a "sub-human tool" which is much worse. feel free to disagree with any of this.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#2467
On May 02 2012 09:08 Ballistixz wrote:
i still dont get it. i am a fan of destiny, watch is stream all the time and i think he is a pretty smart guy.


but his ban/hate doesnt make sense to me. this thread was made specifically to address his racist comments (and to be completely honest, i think this entire thread was made by a very elaborate troll in an attempt to make destiny follow the same faith as orb, but i wont go there)

gook is a racist comment sure, but what about everything else destiny says on his stream? why is a racist comment such a hardcore rage button for so many ppl?

what about faggot? retard? what about the fact that he makes fun of autism people and people with down syndrome? what about the fact that he wishes death on alot of ppl he is angry at?

that is what im not understanding. why did it take a racist comment for destinys actions to get noticed FFS?

again, i am a fan of him and nothing he says bothers me at all, but holy fuck, fair is only fair. instead of focusing on ONE word focus on everything he fucking says. that is a serious case of tunnel vision (tunnel hearing?) right there.


if its not ok for him to say racial slurs, then is also not ok for him to insult a mentally handicapped child nor is it ok for him to insult someones sexuality/intelligence. ALL of those words are equally offensive.

gook/nigger=faggot on the offensiveness scale

gook/nigger=retard on the offensivness scale

but here is how the great SC2 community views it

gook/nigger>>>>>>>>>>>faggot

gook/nigger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>retard.

i find that silly.



In the big picture if there was a scale of offensivness i would have to put faggot at the very top since it's say you aren't even good enough to burn like witches on a steak, you can just be tossed in with all the kindling
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#2468
On May 02 2012 09:09 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once.

another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.

So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


yeah so racism is ok because one is worse racism then the other....

not what i said. learn english before posting please.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 02 2012 00:11 GMT
#2469
On May 02 2012 09:07 MVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.


This type of comment has always baffled me. There is some sort of idea held by white people that if a white person calls a black person "nigger" that the white person will instantly get assaulted. Granted it happens sometimes but do you have any idea how many times every single day some racist non-black person calls a random black person that word? The response most of the time is either anger or amusement or a little bit of both, but someone saying something mean to you is very rarely a justification for violence. Usually it escalates into shit talking and that's about it. If the victim of the racial slur is prone to violence then they may react violently, but a sane person won't assault someone over words, usually.

Keep in mind I'm not condoning racism, I think it's absolutely horrible, but I also think that the notion of violence in response to being called a name is also absolutely horrible and unjustified.

If someone comes up to me and calls me a stupid lazy spic or something I would be more amused than anything else tbh.



You take what I said so literally, my point is this, all these kids that feel so strongly that words like gook/nigger are OK, are cowards.

If they feel so strongly please say it in real life in the presence of those people and see what happens. But you know damn well, they don't.
Morufi1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany49 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 00:13:07
May 02 2012 00:11 GMT
#2470
On May 02 2012 09:09 dUTtrOACh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:03 Morufi1 wrote:
I can't believe i just made an account to respond to this Thread, but after reading the first 75 Pages in the last hours i am just shocked.

There are really people out there, that get "offended" by this? To explain my thoughts:

1. I think that all the drama is leading to the exact opposite of what is wanted: When someone insults someone he wants to hit him in some way and because the normal "fucks" or "faggots" are widely acceptet, he has to cross some borders and for example use racist vocabulary. Yes by saying this i state, that i think Destiny knew exactly that his words are considered racist by some, are crossing an unspoken border. I think that the people who are making a fuss about it are therefore partly in fault for the usage of these words.
Furthermore by giving these "racist" words a special treatment they are supporting racism. Somebody already said this, i think, and was questioned about it but did not answer to the page i read. This point may be arguable, but i think there is the possibility, that treating these words special and therefore admitting that a "racist" insult is worse then something like "faggot, i hate you die" are supporting racism, because in their heads there is a difference between these insults. If someone is insulted by something it should be treated equally no matter what is the topic. But ok, this may be arguable and is not that important.

2. I never thought that people really thought of todays professional sport / political scene as something good. I thought that the hypocrisy was disliked by the majority, but now i must read that people WANT them to wear masks and not saying what they think. This is probably which i like most about the esport scene: They are on most parts more honest and don't have to reconsider every word they speak because someone somewhere may think he is offended by it. I like the honest asshole much more than the lying nice guy. Why is today racism still a problem? Because people are nice on the outside and when they think they are unwatched by society are letting out all their hatred (which they got because they are not allowed to let it out, they think that there must be some kind of a big conspiracy, because they are forbidden to say what for them is an undeniable truth. This may go too far, but i think that it is no coincidence that many extremists are thinking there is some kind of conspiracy, but again this is arguable and not that important).

3. To come back to my starting point: There are really people who think someone new to the scene clicks on a "featured link" and, after reading the warning of offensive language, proceed and then getting really pissed by something like "gook", a word i (and a friend of mine born in vietnam) didn't even know, so they will turn away from the whole scene and especially think "wow, razer supports racists, i never will buy their products again"? I always thought this type of people was only invented by bad TV show in which older people complain about how rotten the youth is. If they don't think that will happen and the OP stated that he was not thinking Destiny was racist, why are they complaining about the situation? Seriously, this is not a rhetoric question, i want to understand. (If you respond to this: "I am getting offended by this and i will not buy products from someone who supports such player" please explain to me why. I am feeling like if this is the situation not Destiny is the problem but you are, because you are offended by something which has to do nothing with you and thereby creating the whole fuss.)


Conclusion: Without taking it to a personal level, i think the attitude displayed by some here is a big part of what i dislike in today's society. Getting upset about something just for the reason of improving their status, washing themselves from those sins. They are projecting something (i would like to call it self-hatred, but that would probably too easy, because i actually don't understand them enough.) onto others and thereby forcing the society to become hypocritical to an unbearable degree.

I honestly can't believe that all these posts are made by people, who are "offended" and not by people who are just hating destiny (a thing i can understand, i don't like him so i did not watch his stream often) and searching for a method to destroy him. I don't WANT to believe it. I probably was never so sad about the community / mankind.
Am i mad? Yes to a certain degree, i am.


TL:DR - I couldn't get past point 1. Calling people faggots is not widely accepted by anything other than the lowest common denominator. Resorting to racism is not some way to drive some point home, or anything else. It's a little troll, hiding behind the anonimity of the internet, or in Destiny's case, hiding behind his fan-base to say whatever the fuck he wants, consequence free. Obviously this kid's parents never taught him manners. It's a shame that TL moderators have to do this, but let's hope old dogs can learn new tricks, and that Destiny grows out his "persona".


You say that and yet i don't see any threads about non-racist insults. Why?
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 02 2012 00:11 GMT
#2471
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

He is clearly unaware of waybackwhen in the days of old when African men stole what if I recall correctly were white french men to be taken as slaves. But I guess that was long enough ago that it no longer has any bearing on who can say what.
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
May 02 2012 00:11 GMT
#2472
On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


This whole enslavement argument is straight up silly.
You know nothing of slavery. You never experienced it, nor have your parents. What about the camps made for Japanese during WWII? You don't hear Japanese people still hanging onto that. What about the Jews and concentration camps? The list goes on. The fact is, with age comes change.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 02 2012 00:11 GMT
#2473
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:
Show nested quote +

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

no, i think nigger derived from slave culture, and cracker not so. so the meaning of nigger has to do with slavery, and cracker does not. make sense?
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 00:13:57
May 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#2474
well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.
'

what's funny is white people were enslaved, go research it

But I guess that was long enough ago that it no longer has any bearing on who can say what.


it actually only went out of existence around the same time black-race slavery went out of existence in the european world

slavery does still exist (in africa, mostly) and some muslim countries (most of them in africa) but it isn't race-specific
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#2475
On May 02 2012 09:10 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:09 Falcor wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once.

another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.

So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


yeah so racism is ok because one is worse racism then the other....

not what i said. learn english before posting please.


you said nigger is worse the cracker because white people were never enslaved(which is false btw). Sorry i mistyped
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#2476
On May 02 2012 09:11 jj33 wrote:
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On May 02 2012 09:07 MVega wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.


This type of comment has always baffled me. There is some sort of idea held by white people that if a white person calls a black person "nigger" that the white person will instantly get assaulted. Granted it happens sometimes but do you have any idea how many times every single day some racist non-black person calls a random black person that word? The response most of the time is either anger or amusement or a little bit of both, but someone saying something mean to you is very rarely a justification for violence. Usually it escalates into shit talking and that's about it. If the victim of the racial slur is prone to violence then they may react violently, but a sane person won't assault someone over words, usually.

Keep in mind I'm not condoning racism, I think it's absolutely horrible, but I also think that the notion of violence in response to being called a name is also absolutely horrible and unjustified.

If someone comes up to me and calls me a stupid lazy spic or something I would be more amused than anything else tbh.



You take what I said so literally, my point is this, all these kids that feel so strongly that words like gook/nigger are OK, are cowards.

If they feel so strongly please say it in real life in the presence of those people and see what happens. But you know damn well, they don't.

I thought they were retarded? Why not go tell this to the retards? Oh right, I forgot that word doesn't count as far as you're concerned.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#2477
On May 02 2012 09:11 Orracle wrote:
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On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


This whole enslavement argument is straight up silly.
You know nothing of slavery. You never experienced it, nor have your parents. What about the camps made for Japanese during WWII? You don't hear Japanese people still hanging onto that. What about the Jews and concentration camps? The list goes on. The fact is, with age comes change.

its not a formal argument for anything actually, its the reason that nigger is more offensive than cracker.

you think that holocaust jokes are funny, by your logic?
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ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 02 2012 00:13 GMT
#2478
On May 02 2012 09:11 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

no, i think nigger derived from slave culture, and cracker not so. so the meaning of nigger has to do with slavery, and cracker does not. make sense?

Cracker was used by the African slaves in America as a term for the white men who held the whips, which made a cracking sound. Read a fucking history book before you start arguing these things.
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
May 02 2012 00:14 GMT
#2479
On May 01 2012 22:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
1. This is Destiny's personality.
2. Surely Quantic knew about this, as it's nothing new or well-hidden.
3. You all-inned him, which could very well piss him off (as any person may BM you for it).

We don't need an Orb 2.0 here.

All three points applied to Orb as well, and look what happened to him.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
May 02 2012 00:14 GMT
#2480
On May 02 2012 09:12 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:10 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:09 Falcor wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:05 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:03 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:01 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:00 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:58 jj33 wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:56 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 08:54 jj33 wrote:
this is ridiculous. all you kids that say saying nigger or gook is OK are retarded.

I'll agree with you morons if it's ok if you go outside, step away from the comfort of your room and go up to a capable black man / asian man / whatever race and say the corresponding racial slur to them and tell them it's OK.


This is the core issue. People, in general, whatever their background, need to stop thinking of these words in such a way. Nigger is a pretty good example. Black people say they can say it all they want but that nobody else can. So they basically apply a double standard here and are being inherently racist by doing so. Fuck that.



OK so go say nigger to a black man on the street and see what happens to you.

You can say it's just words, but there is a context to those words that are hurtful to people. Saying it online behind the comfort of your house and behind your computer but not saying it in real life, makes you a real coward.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, I'll just ask that you pull your head out of your ass and think for once.

another badass white person who thinks its racist that black people dont like when a non-black person says nigger.

So let's imagine a world in which the only racial slurs are nigger and cracker, and there are white people and black people. Black people can say both of these and nobody cares. Nigger is meant to be derogatory toward black people and cracker toward white. White people can not say either. Does this make sense to you?

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


yeah so racism is ok because one is worse racism then the other....

not what i said. learn english before posting please.


you said nigger is worse the cracker because white people were never enslaved(which is false btw). Sorry i mistyped

nigger as a slur has its roots in american slavery, whereas cracker does not have roots in slavery of any kind. so, for the groups of white and black people that these slurs refer to (they are almost exclusively referring to the new world), one clearly refers to a group of enslaved people, and the other does not. sorry if that was not clear.
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