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getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
May 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#2501
On May 02 2012 09:19 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:18 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media!


Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit?

How fucking mad are you right now, bro?

User was warned for this post


A complete show of ignorance and disrespect. Intrigue is female, fyi.


what does her sex have to do with it?


destiny referred to intrigue as "he" and "bro". Reading comprehension 101 haha
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ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#2502
On May 02 2012 09:22 pedostare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:16 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:15 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:13 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:11 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

no, i think nigger derived from slave culture, and cracker not so. so the meaning of nigger has to do with slavery, and cracker does not. make sense?

Cracker was used by the African slaves in America as a term for the white men who held the whips, which made a cracking sound. Read a fucking history book before you start arguing these things.

which, again, is obviously not referring to that group of people being slaves. in fact you are proving my point, i just explained that it implies a dominant/submissive relationship between whites/blacks, which is why the submissive slur is found to be more insulting...can you not understand that?

Your statement was not so. You said it has no roots of any sort in slavery, I explained that it does.

You are being intentionally obtuse. White people weren't fucking oppressed or enslaved during american-slavery and therefor the term cracker doesn't even come close to nigger. The only relationship the two have is the oppressed and the oppressors. If you honestly think those two are even mildly equivalent then you are the one who needs to take a closer look at their history book.

You've missed the point entirely. Please read some of my other posts where it is explained further.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#2503
On May 02 2012 09:21 Mallidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:18 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media!


Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit?

How fucking mad are you right now, bro?

User was warned for this post


A complete show of ignorance and disrespect. Intrigue is female, fyi.


I believe Destiny has already apologised for this comment in the ABL thread, fyi.

yeah... what a sincere and well thought you apology:

On May 02 2012 02:50 Destiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 02:27 Aeres wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:16 JOJOsc2news wrote:
That post:
Destiny about intrigue

The Destiny thread is going wild right now. I think we will get a lot of bans to discuss :D

That's fucked up. You don't talk to a girl that way. Not even Destiny should be able to do that.

Ahh, fuck, intrique is a girl? I'm actually sorry for my responses earlier, then. [pm me and we can chat ^.^]
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#2504
On May 02 2012 09:22 pedostare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:16 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:15 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:13 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:11 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

no, i think nigger derived from slave culture, and cracker not so. so the meaning of nigger has to do with slavery, and cracker does not. make sense?

Cracker was used by the African slaves in America as a term for the white men who held the whips, which made a cracking sound. Read a fucking history book before you start arguing these things.

which, again, is obviously not referring to that group of people being slaves. in fact you are proving my point, i just explained that it implies a dominant/submissive relationship between whites/blacks, which is why the submissive slur is found to be more insulting...can you not understand that?

Your statement was not so. You said it has no roots of any sort in slavery, I explained that it does.

You are being intentionally obtuse. White people weren't fucking oppressed or enslaved during american-slavery and therefor the term cracker doesn't even come close to nigger. The only relationship the two have is the oppressed and the oppressors. If you honestly think those two are even mildly equivalent then you are the one who needs to take a closer look at their history book.


So you think racism is fine as long as it's not to racist?
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
May 02 2012 00:24 GMT
#2505
On May 02 2012 09:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:21 Mallidon wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:18 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media!


Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit?

How fucking mad are you right now, bro?

User was warned for this post


A complete show of ignorance and disrespect. Intrigue is female, fyi.


I believe Destiny has already apologised for this comment in the ABL thread, fyi.

yeah... what a sincere and well thought you apology:

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 02:50 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:27 Aeres wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:16 JOJOsc2news wrote:
That post:
Destiny about intrigue

The Destiny thread is going wild right now. I think we will get a lot of bans to discuss :D

That's fucked up. You don't talk to a girl that way. Not even Destiny should be able to do that.

Ahh, fuck, intrique is a girl? I'm actually sorry for my responses earlier, then. [pm me and we can chat ^.^]


Well, depends how much you read into it imo.
Bleh.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
May 02 2012 00:24 GMT
#2506
On May 02 2012 05:42 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:42 Silvertine wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:37 Silvertine wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:30 Bigtony wrote:
I'm of the opinion that words are words. A word cannot be "racist." People are racist.

I'm of the opinion that words are words. A word cannot be "antiquated". People are antiquated.

Your logic is basically white noise, it could used to state anything.


And yet he's right. Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

What are you talking about? That is probably the tenth post you've made in this thread which hasn't made a lick of sense.

Words don't make you a racist. Being prejudiced against another race makes you racist. The former doesn't imply the latter.


Thinking a race/gender/sexual preference/etc descriptor is a synonym with a negative modifier is racist because you believe calling someone of that race/sex/orientation/etc is synonymous with calling them weak, or untrustworthy, or whatever you are "actually" implying.

Destiny calling his opponent a gook was offensive not because destiny hates Vietnamese, it was offensive because he equates calling people vietnamese with calling people unworthy. His brain is okay with the reality of that definition. He doesn't have to be malicious towards Asians--he simply thinks that being unworthy of winning is the same thing as being Vietnamese.

In other words, racist--by definition.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Maekchu
Profile Joined February 2011
140 Posts
May 02 2012 00:24 GMT
#2507
Just gonna write my own opinion on this, since there are too many pages of posts to even consider reading them all :D

I don't feel offended with such behaviour, since the racial slur was not directed to me personally, yet I do consider such behaviour juvenile. I don't care about what Destiny does on his stream or anywhere else, instead I just don't support him in any way. If I feel something is worth supporting, I will support it with my money and time. This is basically how capitalism works.

However, I do think that if e-sports want to gain a tolerance within the general public, the community itself needs to display more professionalism. I don’t find racial slur as being professional. However, in the end it all depends on where the sponsors and supporters will put their money. If the drivers of the e-sports scene don’t tolerate such behaviour, we will see low support for such individuals, eliminating such behaviour in general.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
May 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#2508
[image loading]

I quite like this picture, sums up this thread

User was warned for this post
haileris
Profile Joined January 2011
22 Posts
May 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#2509
On May 02 2012 09:22 Falcor wrote:
I'm glade you can tell by a single post that contains no racism in it what so ever. Do you have gaydar but for racists?


I was commenting on this thread, not any invidivual post. Maybe you're so defensive because you know you're defending something that is wrong.
cmcaneff5502
Profile Joined February 2012
United States116 Posts
May 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#2510
wow please close -.- several different silly arguments going on, and most of them have become interpersonal between various users and no longer even concern destiny. very obnoxious that this thread is so populous
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 02 2012 00:25 GMT
#2511
On May 02 2012 09:23 getSome[703] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:19 Falcor wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:18 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media!


Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit?

How fucking mad are you right now, bro?

User was warned for this post


A complete show of ignorance and disrespect. Intrigue is female, fyi.


what does her sex have to do with it?


destiny referred to intrigue as "he" and "bro". Reading comprehension 101 haha


No i saw that he said he and bro. That still makes no difference imo. I just hate online when someone insults someone like "man that guy is a douchebag" and their response is "ummmm I'm a female" like that should change his opinion lol
ABagOfFritos
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
May 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#2512
On May 02 2012 09:25 Rulker wrote:
[image loading]

I quite like this picture, sums up this thread

Thanks, this is the point I've been making in all of my posts thus far.
haileris
Profile Joined January 2011
22 Posts
May 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#2513
On May 02 2012 09:25 Rulker wrote:
[image loading]

I quite like this picture, sums up this thread


Please don't twist the words of people like Stephen Fry and Louis CK. They have said that racist language is absolutely not OK.
Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 00:27:32
May 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#2514
On May 02 2012 09:14 Okiesmokie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
1. This is Destiny's personality.
2. Surely Quantic knew about this, as it's nothing new or well-hidden.
3. You all-inned him, which could very well piss him off (as any person may BM you for it).

We don't need an Orb 2.0 here.

All three points applied to Orb as well, and look what happened to him.



actually, EG did not know about orbs past behaviour. most ppl didnt even know who the hell orb was and also did not know he has been streaming since beta because normally he gets 100-300 viewers tops. the ppl that did know who orb was did know that he was basically a "mini idra" tho.

although the situation with orb and now destiny has similarities, the out come will be different because destiny is popular and orb isnt. plain and simple. thats how our great community works.

destiny will not be fired, and this entire situation will blow over in less then a week.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#2515
On May 02 2012 09:24 Mallidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:21 Mallidon wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:18 polyphonyEX wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:12 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:00 intrigue wrote:
guys, i'd like to let you know that i've suffered a bit in my life. that means i know what the world is like. i also never make mistakes, because, as i've mentioned, i've been through some hardship. this qualifies me to make sweeping social critiques that spans way beyond any of our lifetimes. fuck the empty media!


Seriously? Who is this faggot? I thought the colored name or w/e meant he was a mod or some shit?

How fucking mad are you right now, bro?

User was warned for this post


A complete show of ignorance and disrespect. Intrigue is female, fyi.


I believe Destiny has already apologised for this comment in the ABL thread, fyi.

yeah... what a sincere and well thought you apology:

On May 02 2012 02:50 Destiny wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:27 Aeres wrote:
On May 02 2012 02:16 JOJOsc2news wrote:
That post:
Destiny about intrigue

The Destiny thread is going wild right now. I think we will get a lot of bans to discuss :D

That's fucked up. You don't talk to a girl that way. Not even Destiny should be able to do that.

Ahh, fuck, intrique is a girl? I'm actually sorry for my responses earlier, then. [pm me and we can chat ^.^]


Well, depends how much you read into it imo.

you read that as an actual apology?
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
May 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#2516
Nice thread here guys.

User was warned for this post
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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
May 02 2012 00:27 GMT
#2517
On May 02 2012 09:25 Rulker wrote:
[image loading]

I quite like this picture, sums up this thread


I'm glad you can sum up a thread without reading it.


On May 02 2012 00:04 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:47 babybell wrote:
In my opinion racial slurs are nothing compared to Idra's bm towards his fans during showmatches.
This is a pertinent quote that might spark some thought:
[image loading]


I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Do you know anything about Stephen Fry, or do you just have this quote? There's no way he would be okay with someone using racial slurs like "nigger" and "gook". What he is talking about is, for example, people being offended by someone saying there is no God, or making a large banner saying "you can be good without God" and put it on busses. He does not mean it's okay to use racial slurs.

As for it being his personal stream.. yeah, it is. No one has to watch it. But at the end of the day, Team Liquid is making a statement by making him a featured streamer.

Never make a hydralisk.
pedostare
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States31 Posts
May 02 2012 00:27 GMT
#2518
On May 02 2012 09:23 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:22 pedostare wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:16 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:15 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:13 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:11 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

no, i think nigger derived from slave culture, and cracker not so. so the meaning of nigger has to do with slavery, and cracker does not. make sense?

Cracker was used by the African slaves in America as a term for the white men who held the whips, which made a cracking sound. Read a fucking history book before you start arguing these things.

which, again, is obviously not referring to that group of people being slaves. in fact you are proving my point, i just explained that it implies a dominant/submissive relationship between whites/blacks, which is why the submissive slur is found to be more insulting...can you not understand that?

Your statement was not so. You said it has no roots of any sort in slavery, I explained that it does.

You are being intentionally obtuse. White people weren't fucking oppressed or enslaved during american-slavery and therefor the term cracker doesn't even come close to nigger. The only relationship the two have is the oppressed and the oppressors. If you honestly think those two are even mildly equivalent then you are the one who needs to take a closer look at their history book.


So you think racism is fine as long as it's not to racist?


That's not what I said, but please tell me more about how hard it was for white people during slavery.
DoubleDare
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada48 Posts
May 02 2012 00:27 GMT
#2519
Speaking as a big fan of Destiny, I can say without question that he is absolutely racist and homophobic. However, I think it's out of ignorance and an inability to empathize with the target group, than with actual hate.


You clearly do not understand what real bigotry is so don't pretend that you are so knowledgeable. Destiny absolutely does not fear "gays" or "blacks" or any other race or sexual preference, and he's spoken many times about his opinion on words such as "faggot" or any racial slur.
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 02 2012 00:28 GMT
#2520
On May 02 2012 09:24 Maekchu wrote:
Just gonna write my own opinion on this, since there are too many pages of posts to even consider reading them all :D

I don't feel offended with such behaviour, since the racial slur was not directed to me personally, yet I do consider such behaviour juvenile. I don't care about what Destiny does on his stream or anywhere else, instead I just don't support him in any way. If I feel something is worth supporting, I will support it with my money and time. This is basically how capitalism works.

However, I do think that if e-sports want to gain a tolerance within the general public, the community itself needs to display more professionalism. I don’t find racial slur as being professional. However, in the end it all depends on where the sponsors and supporters will put their money. If the drivers of the e-sports scene don’t tolerate such behaviour, we will see low support for such individuals, eliminating such behaviour in general.

Yah, he sometimes comes off as a funny guy and sometimes he comes off as just another internet troll trying to piss people off for no reason or whining when he doesn't get his way. Luckily for Destiny I dont think he has any desire to be truly "mainstream". He is more of a Howard Stern type character.
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