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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 02 2012 00:37 GMT
#2541
It's funny how like over 50% of the posts in this thread are just making fun of the fact that the argument is occurring. Including this one.

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FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
May 02 2012 00:38 GMT
#2542
Funny how a pointless thread like this that's being sharply watched and moderated apparently still isn't worth closing.

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pedostare
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States31 Posts
May 02 2012 00:38 GMT
#2543
On May 02 2012 09:33 Falcor wrote:
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On May 02 2012 09:27 pedostare wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:23 Falcor wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:22 pedostare wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:16 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:15 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:13 ABagOfFritos wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:11 nath wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:09 Domus wrote:

well, i dont have a problem with those who care about a black person saying cracker. but, you know, white people were not enslaved.


Wait, what? So you think slavery is limited to black people? Read up on history please! Every race has been subject to slavery at some point in time.

no, i think nigger derived from slave culture, and cracker not so. so the meaning of nigger has to do with slavery, and cracker does not. make sense?

Cracker was used by the African slaves in America as a term for the white men who held the whips, which made a cracking sound. Read a fucking history book before you start arguing these things.

which, again, is obviously not referring to that group of people being slaves. in fact you are proving my point, i just explained that it implies a dominant/submissive relationship between whites/blacks, which is why the submissive slur is found to be more insulting...can you not understand that?

Your statement was not so. You said it has no roots of any sort in slavery, I explained that it does.

You are being intentionally obtuse. White people weren't fucking oppressed or enslaved during american-slavery and therefor the term cracker doesn't even come close to nigger. The only relationship the two have is the oppressed and the oppressors. If you honestly think those two are even mildly equivalent then you are the one who needs to take a closer look at their history book.


So you think racism is fine as long as it's not to racist?


That's not what I said, but please tell me more about how hard it was for white people during slavery.


If you don't think that then why do you feel the need to rate which term is more racist? nigger is more racist because they were oppressed. Isn't racism just racism? There isn't different degree's of racist...


According to whom?
Minigun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
619 Posts
May 02 2012 00:38 GMT
#2544
He does this soley for the entertainment of the viewers (imo)

He would never do this in a serious tourny or what have you. It's simple ladder entertainment.

I'm pretty sure most people know he isn't racist/etc/etc/etc
“Quiet people have the loudest minds.” ― Stephen Hawking
haileris
Profile Joined January 2011
22 Posts
May 02 2012 00:39 GMT
#2545
On May 02 2012 09:35 dUTtrOACh wrote:
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On May 02 2012 09:31 haileris wrote:
I'm already familiar with that argument.

There's a big different between calling someone a nigger during a poker game or semi-private conversations and calling someone a nigger in a public broadcast medium.


This is like calling someone a nigger during a publicly broadcast poker game that you were broadcasting to people who were really hoping that you'd call that guy a nigger if you lost to him.


What? I don't follow. Just because some people would like to see racist behavior doesn't make it a good idea to broadcast. NOTE: I'm not saying it's okay in private conversation to call a black guy a nigger either, I'm saying it's substantially more fucked up to do it over a broadcast medium.
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
May 02 2012 00:40 GMT
#2546
On May 02 2012 09:34 Silvertine wrote:
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On May 02 2012 09:28 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:24 Maekchu wrote:
Just gonna write my own opinion on this, since there are too many pages of posts to even consider reading them all :D

I don't feel offended with such behaviour, since the racial slur was not directed to me personally, yet I do consider such behaviour juvenile. I don't care about what Destiny does on his stream or anywhere else, instead I just don't support him in any way. If I feel something is worth supporting, I will support it with my money and time. This is basically how capitalism works.

However, I do think that if e-sports want to gain a tolerance within the general public, the community itself needs to display more professionalism. I don’t find racial slur as being professional. However, in the end it all depends on where the sponsors and supporters will put their money. If the drivers of the e-sports scene don’t tolerate such behaviour, we will see low support for such individuals, eliminating such behaviour in general.

Yah, he sometimes comes off as a funny guy and sometimes he comes off as just another internet troll trying to piss people off for no reason or whining when he doesn't get his way. Luckily for Destiny I dont think he has any desire to be truly "mainstream". He is more of a Howard Stern type character.

There is no comparison between Howard Stern and Destiny. And the idea that Stern isn't mainstream is ridiculous. He's one of the highest paid entertainers ever and was #1 in radio for years. If he's not mainstream then the term loses all meaning.


I remember uncensored Stern being one of the selling points of satellite radio, but I also remember Stern's gimmick being lewdness and not outright racist hate speech.
twitch.tv/duttroach
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 02 2012 00:40 GMT
#2547
On May 02 2012 09:38 coL.Minigun wrote:
He does this soley for the entertainment of the viewers (imo)

He would never do this in a serious tourny or what have you. It's simple ladder entertainment.

I'm pretty sure most people know he isn't racist/etc/etc/etc

None of that justifies using racial epithets to attack people.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 02 2012 00:40 GMT
#2548
On May 02 2012 09:38 coL.Minigun wrote:
He does this soley for the entertainment of the viewers (imo)

He would never do this in a serious tourny or what have you. It's simple ladder entertainment.

I'm pretty sure most people know he isn't racist/etc/etc/etc


That makes it ok?
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Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
May 02 2012 00:41 GMT
#2549
I think this should be treated EXACTLY how the orb situation was treated :p
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
May 02 2012 00:41 GMT
#2550
On May 02 2012 09:39 haileris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:35 dUTtrOACh wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:31 haileris wrote:
I'm already familiar with that argument.

There's a big different between calling someone a nigger during a poker game or semi-private conversations and calling someone a nigger in a public broadcast medium.


This is like calling someone a nigger during a publicly broadcast poker game that you were broadcasting to people who were really hoping that you'd call that guy a nigger if you lost to him.


What? I don't follow. Just because some people would like to see racist behavior doesn't make it a good idea to broadcast. NOTE: I'm not saying it's okay in private conversation to call a black guy a nigger either, I'm saying it's substantially more fucked up to do it over a broadcast medium.


A lot of people seem to believe that this is what Destiny is, and are coming here to argue that this is nothing new, that this is his "persona" and that because he believes it is fine, it is fine.
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Rival
Profile Joined November 2010
United States33 Posts
May 02 2012 00:42 GMT
#2551
People should be allowed to talk however they want. If you don't like Destiny don't watch his stream, and ignore any messages while in game. Destiny will be Destiny and he probably won't change his language hes had it for a while and has been extremely controversial. Destiny does not directly hate groups of people and is not racist he has said this many times on posts and on his stream, he simply uses these terms. Simply posting this will probably, most likely, not make a difference in his language, he has thousands of viewers for a reason.
TahoeRacer
Profile Joined January 2011
United States18 Posts
May 02 2012 00:42 GMT
#2552
You all jelly of Destiny? How mod you are right now?

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aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
May 02 2012 00:43 GMT
#2553
this is equivalent to tattle taling imo, just shutup. didn't yo momma ever teach you not to be a tattle tale?
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
May 02 2012 00:43 GMT
#2554
Damn, this thread is moving faster than a MLG live report.
I've got moves like Jagger
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
May 02 2012 00:43 GMT
#2555
On May 02 2012 09:41 Picklebread wrote:
I think this should be treated EXACTLY how the orb situation was treated :p


Why?

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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
May 02 2012 00:44 GMT
#2556
On May 02 2012 09:32 Kharnage wrote:
That's why I don't watch destinys stream.

Can people be report in b.net etc?


I stopped watching Destiny's stream when he stopped trying to be good at Starcraft.

A sign of Destiny's current irrelevance is the fact he has to say stupid shit to be relevant.
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
May 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#2557
Sigh. Some of the people in this thread are ridiculous. I just wish everyone could be on the same page regarding racism. Were the silly kids who are saying "Who cares?" about Destiny saying the same thing when discussions of Orb were going around? When is it okay for racial slurs to be slung around and when isn't it, because obviously there are times when it's perfectly fine apparently and times when it's not. Why can't we clear up where that fine line exists so we can all find our special places to use racial slurs and be perfectly acceptable? Wouldn't that be fun?

Good Lord, the people in here...
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#2558
128 pages in one day. Wow. just wow.

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Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
May 02 2012 00:45 GMT
#2559
On May 02 2012 09:43 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:41 Picklebread wrote:
I think this should be treated EXACTLY how the orb situation was treated :p


Why?

Why not? :/

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haileris
Profile Joined January 2011
22 Posts
May 02 2012 00:46 GMT
#2560
On May 02 2012 09:42 Rival wrote:
People should be allowed to talk however they want. If you don't like Destiny don't watch his stream, and ignore any messages while in game. Destiny will be Destiny and he probably won't change his language hes had it for a while and has been extremely controversial. Destiny does not directly hate groups of people and is not racist he has said this many times on posts and on his stream, he simply uses these terms. Simply posting this will probably, most likely, not make a difference in his language, he has thousands of viewers for a reason.


Please take Philosphy 101 and look up the difference between "Rights" and "Duties". One has a right to be as offensive and racist as one wants. One also has a moral duty not to.

I really enjoy his stream despite the racist remarks, not because of it. I'd enjoy his stream much more without it.
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