EPTNorwegian student risks 35 years in jail in the US - Page 21
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On April 25 2012 09:02 Sanguinarius wrote: Wow, this just makes me sad. There is no reason to put a kid behind bars for something this stupid. And hes in a foreign country. And probably cant even speak the language well. He's lived in America for a decade. | ||
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seedfreedom
Canada38 Posts
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On April 25 2012 07:25 DeepElemBlues wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fifty-plus.friends/browse_thread/thread/4851777de2cf9f85/c562efe3c151d808?hl=en&q=%22John+Larsgard%22#c562efe3c151d808&ei=iGwTS6eaOpW8Qpmqic0O&sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&source=groups&usg=AFQjCNHzJpPjpPQOMNjTwnxKL1fn2l-eOQ So apparently he wasn't considered a terrorist threat, it was just one of those draconian university disciplinary bullshit kangaroo courts that wanted him gone because he was an asshole (this seems to be a recurring theme for Mr. Larsgard, getting into trouble in numerous places because people think he's acting like an asshole and him then whining about being unfairly targeted). The more I learn about him the more I think he wasn't just some poor innocent guy who panicked and didn't intend to hurt anyone and boohoohoo, he seems like he has trouble with getting into fights or otherwise unpleasant situations with people. Thanks for posting more info... I can't log in to read it yet, but I don't think it is illegal to be an asshole lol. It reminds me why I don't go out much... I would constatly be in some kind of trouble. Especially the way people act on public transportation... drives me nuts. Even then I'm often walking on a razor's edge with idiotic truancy officers harassing me at home, etc. Just a matter of time for me I think. | ||
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
I see people every day who have lived here their whole life and still speak Spanish only with a very rudimentary understanding of English. We have to bring in translators alot. | ||
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seedfreedom
Canada38 Posts
On April 25 2012 09:05 Sanguinarius wrote: I see people every day who have lived here their whole life and still speak Spanish only with a very rudimentary understanding of English. We have to bring in translators alot. except those are usually migrant workers. this is a 33 year old guy who came for university schooling. He speaks the language perfectly fine. | ||
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Heckster
United States5 Posts
All in all I wish there was video footage so I could see for myself, because on one hand, being a music festival it was most likely blocked off and obvious not to go down at all, but at the same token, I would also flee if someone punched me and a mob was around my car. | ||
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GrandMaPwnZ.
Norway84 Posts
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
On April 25 2012 09:04 seedfreedom wrote: hes not some lost tourist who got caught up in a festival, with a culture and customs hes not use to. Hes been in the US for 10 years. Theres really no excuse. Sure, but 7.5 years in prison? A ticket would've been enough! | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On April 25 2012 09:52 Wivyx wrote: Sure, but 7.5 years in prison? A ticket would've been enough! Well, maybe in your country. What he did is more severe in the states, and I think rightfully so. I'm not necessarily saying I agree with the actual sentence, but surely more than a ticket. Maybe a steep fine. (unless that qualifies as a ticket, for some reason I think a ticket is simply a cop writes you up and you pay without any court decision, etc.). Jail time is debatable, we don't know the complete circumstances. I'll agree 7.5 years sounds over the top though. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10496 Posts
On April 25 2012 06:11 seedfreedom wrote: they yelled at him at first to get him to get out. he wasnt punched until he almost ran over a woman and her kids. the Norwegian source said it themselves "John drives slowly but some people still hurl abuse and make threatening gestures towards the car. When he tried to turn into the Auto Shop where his Volvo was towed, a crowd surrounded the car and his mother panicked and told him to get out of there. He backed up against a curb and got a flat tire. He stopped a few meters away from a hot dog stand. There is a woman and her kids inside the hot dog stand, the car never made any contact with them or the stand. Many of the witnessess thinks this is deadly dangerous driving. " i know they want to make it look like the guy was being harassed, but it just makes him look less caring about the well being of others. seriously, people are gesturing to your car and yelling at you and your first though is "huh thats weird. let me in no way try to understand why this random group of people are angry and continue on driving. nm, didnt read your post well enough | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On April 25 2012 10:06 wurm wrote: I'm honestly not surprised. Celebrities can kill/threaten to kill people/embezzle millions and not spend any jail time in America, but the average Joe can spend up to a decade in jail for what other people get 1-2 years minimum. Justice system my ass. What celebrities have been convicted of killing someone and not spent any time in jail? And what do you mean "for what other people get 1-2 years minimum? What celebrities even need to embezzle millions? I don't follow that stuff as much as I do foreign policy though, I must admit. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10496 Posts
On April 25 2012 10:06 wurm wrote: I'm honestly not surprised. Celebrities can kill/threaten to kill people/embezzle millions and not spend any jail time in America, but the average Joe can spend up to a decade in jail for what other people get 1-2 years minimum. Justice system my ass. Pretty sure you're just basing that on your perception. U.S. is pretty good at treating celebrities the same as ordinary citizens. Celebrities go to jail all the time, even for white collar crimes, e.g. Martha Stewart, Richard Hatch, Wesley Snipes, etc. | ||
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Brawndo
United States35 Posts
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On April 25 2012 10:06 wurm wrote: I'm honestly not surprised. Celebrities can kill/threaten to kill people/embezzle millions and not spend any jail time in America, but the average Joe can spend up to a decade in jail for what other people get 1-2 years minimum. Justice system my ass. See, now you're just making crap up. I'm sure the justice system in the Philippines is a modern marvel of civil rights and equal protection  Stop holding the US to different standards than you would for other countries because of your personal beliefs about our government. | ||
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RancidTurnip
United States105 Posts
It makes us wonder how we all became so stupid with 72.4% of the population having come from the glorious and all knowing European continent... Oh wait.. | ||
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CrAyZeD
United States36 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
Too bad people will instantly believe anything they read on the internet without applying critical thinking skills, it really is tiresome reading so many 'american suxs!' posts on this forum, especially when they are not warranted. Sure the usa screws up a lot, but so does everyone else, yell at them for stuff that is truly bad, not for things that make sense. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On April 25 2012 11:03 Saryph wrote: Not really sure why people are surprised that a journalist would write a story horribly biased in favor of a countryman who was being prosecuted in another country for criminal acts they committed. Too bad people will instantly believe anything they read on the internet without applying critical thinking skills, it really is tiresome reading so many 'american suxs!' posts on this forum, especially when they are not warranted. Sure the usa screws up a lot, but so does everyone else, yell at them for stuff that is truly bad, not for things that make sense. Despite claims by Scandinavians that they try to be as unbiased as possible and view nationalism as a negative force, they are widely regarded, in the U.S. at least, as one of the most nationalistic areas (Norway/Sweden/Finland by "areas") in the entire world. Very, very convinced they have everything better figured out than other people. Although if you were going to have to make an argument, they seem to have a pretty damn good rehabilitative system in Norway. I wouldn't want to live there myself, but they do usually top standard of livings charts. It's just their sense of "oh, in OUR country we'd do it this way, which is clearly the more CIVILIZED way" in every single argument that irks me T_T. | ||
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