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Profile Joined April 2010
United States475 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 21:50:21
June 22 2012 21:50 GMT
#6861
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 23 2012 01:01 Zorkmid wrote:
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On June 23 2012 00:22 English wrote:
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On June 22 2012 23:53 Brow23 wrote:
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On June 22 2012 22:57 DannyJ wrote:
Just like Dirk last year, I feel really happy for LeBron. ALways nice to see someone finally achieve something they struggled to get for so long. I can't imagine the relief he's feeling right now.

That was a super entertaining Playoffs overall. Now on to the Olympics!


You are disrespecting Dirk if you compare him to this arrogant piece of shit that LeBron is...



I don't know if you've been watching much of LeBron but he's definitely not as arrogant as you're implying.

I thought OKC deserved it until playing in the finals. Sure, I thought some of the calls were bad, but OKC didn't play their best ball either.


LOLOLOL. He has "CHOSEN 1" tattooed on his back....


God forbid anyone in the league to change even the slightest bit.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#6862
arrogance =/= self awareness
lawl
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 22:04:38
June 22 2012 22:02 GMT
#6863
On June 23 2012 06:28 Gladiator MG wrote:
Show nested quote +
However, after he left Cleveland to join the SuperFriends, I'm don't think I'm ever going to consider him in that true circle of the greatest elites, as his leaving Cleveland for Miami reaffirmed to me that even he didn't think he was good enough to carry a team to win.


Don't get why you think this. Not too many of the Greats had to do it alone, just because he had The Decision and that huge celebration and such he can't get grouped in with the greats.

Magic had Hakeem
Bird had McHale and Parish
Kobe had Shaq + Bynum/Gasol later
Wade had Shaq
Jordan had Pippen
Allen, KG and Pierce came together to win.

So, yeah. Just because they either were together by drafting or whatever they didn't do it alone.


It's really amusing the way the haters reach to take credit away from LeBron. In a series with so many excellent players he led his team to victory as the clear-cut best player on the floor and in the world. All season long up to this point, the haters have dismissed Bosh as an unwanted third banana, Wade as an over-the-hill has-been crybaby, and given the Heat role players no credit at all. Yet after chipping, the Heat are again perceived as an unfair unstoppable force. Yes, in the finals everybody stepped up and the Heat team looked unbeatable, beyond what Pat Riley could have hoped for. But it was only a few weeks ago that LeBron's team was on the ropes and he had to turn in all-time great performances just to keep them alive.

This is the first team to trail in three separate playoff series and still win. They did so in large part because of the following put-his-team-on-his-back games by LeBron: 40-18-9 2 stl 2 blk while down 1-2 against Indiana in a series where the critics were ready to write the Heat off after Bosh suffered his abdominal strain; 45-15-5 19/26 fg in a potential elimination game 6 on the road against Boston. Both must-wins, and he delivered while learning the power forward position on the fly and with the Heat missing arguably their second most important player. On those nights the rest of the Heat looked ready to fold and they won because he just wouldn't let them lose. Oh, and he averaged 30.3-9.7-5.6 1.9 stl and shot 50% from the floor in the finals. He didn't carry his team to this chip?

Haters gonna hate.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 22 2012 22:17 GMT
#6864
I like how the completely unfounded, bitter posts are balanced out by quality, respectful ones. Keep on trucking yo

Legendary performance from a legendary player to lead the team and win his first title in truly redemptive fashion. What a redeem team this year
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 22 2012 22:42 GMT
#6865
Come on, Lebron was getting undeserved criticism his entire career, not just after he joined the miami heat. Before he couldn't finish, he gave up, he was a choker, he'd never be as good as kobe, etc, etc. I've never seen anyone in the history of the game get that much criticism and negative media before, even though personally he never did anything wrong. The miami controversy just took it to another level and made people who were pretty much indifferent hate him and believe everything that came before.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 23:00:18
June 22 2012 22:53 GMT
#6866
On June 23 2012 07:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Come on, Lebron was getting undeserved criticism his entire career, not just after he joined the miami heat. Before he couldn't finish, he gave up, he was a choker, he'd never be as good as kobe, etc, etc. I've never seen anyone in the history of the game get that much criticism and negative media before, even though personally he never did anything wrong. The miami controversy just took it to another level and made people who were pretty much indifferent hate him and believe everything that came before.


I hated on him REAL hard before he came into the league. To me, it was ridiculous that a high school kid was getting the type of press he got, and it was obvious that he couldn't possibly be that good. I wanted him to fail and I was glad that it would be my Sacramento Kings that would expose him in his first game. Of course, he proved me dead wrong, and though the Kings beat the Cavs that night, I was done doubting LeBron. Seeing a rookie do that against a team that had 59 wins the prevous season and got robbed of a championship only two seasons ago was mindblowing. LeBron came into the league with outrageous hype... and he lived up to it. Call him cocky or arrogant if you like, but he's got that level of confidence because he's that damn good. He's top 10 all-time in my book and he's only 27.

Bill Simmons with a great article on LeBron today: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8085525/lebron-makes-leap
dostoveskiee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 23:38:45
June 22 2012 23:31 GMT
#6867
No one has received more 'undeserved criticism' on the Miami team than their coach. Ctrl + F Spolestra on any major news & sport site article on the Heat championship and you'll barely see his name come up, if at all. No mention of the coach's contribution to the championship win but you'll see more articles questioning his coaching during the finals. Must suck to be a coach where the media and the team's own fans blindly hate you for not having atleast 2 championship rings in the last 3 years he's been head coach lol.
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
June 22 2012 23:47 GMT
#6868
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1232211-nba-rumors-sources-reporting-okc-thunder-have-interest-in-phil-jackson

Already the rumors are flying
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#6869
On June 23 2012 06:09 Durp wrote:
I find it ironic that Brees is being lambasted for holding hostage the same organization that he was previously praised for raising from the ashes. In the NFL thread there were constant posts about Brees being the best QB in the NFL, how he raised his team from the 'Aints to the Saints again, and how he was a savior for a previously pitiful franchise. You wanted me (and others in that thread) to believe that Brees was on the level of the Mannings and the Bradys, yet now when he expects to be paid as such he's the bad guy? There's an interesting article on the NFL.com site about Percy Harvin's issues in Minnesota, where they mention how the only real move for a player that wants more money is to hold-out of camp to show you mean business.

I actually agreed with you after the year about Brees, and I agree he deserved more credit. The guy finally won a championship, raised his game to unreal levels, and his organization has brought a taint to his championship with their bountygate shenanigans. I don't blame him for what can come off like holding a grudge (though I don't think that's what he's doing- and the Saints should open the checkbook)


Yep, and there's nothing wrong with anything that Brees is doing. He's a great player trying to get all he's worth. And he's not the savior of New Orleans. He was a broken, washed up quarterback that no one in the league gave a chance (The dolphins turned him down for Dante Culpepper). The Saints gave HIM the opportunity, he just acted on it the best I've seen since Kurt Warner as far as comeback stories go. I think he has been about as good as those 3, but don't act like he's been somehow extra kind to the Saints. He treats this game like a business, such as it is, and that's all Lebron and Bosh did. They looked for what they wanted out of the sport.

And I love how you just shrug off that the Decision was a fucking charity event and try to make it about Lebron's ego. You're right, him giving all the proceeds to charity was just a ruse. He can't possibly be a good person because you hate him.
Remember Violet.
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
June 23 2012 00:39 GMT
#6870
On June 23 2012 09:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
And I love how you just shrug off that the Decision was a fucking charity event and try to make it about Lebron's ego. You're right, him giving all the proceeds to charity was just a ruse. He can't possibly be a good person because you hate him.

I don't think that's a massive stretch imo.

It's not like other players in the NBA haven't found completely legitimate ways to raise money for youth in America- without having a self-aggrandizing TV spectacle.

Baron Davis' Rising Stars of America.
Deron Williams' Deron's Double Team
Tim Duncan's Character Program
Tyreke Evans' 'Reke Havoc Zone
Chris Paul's CP3 Zone

Then there's the NBA Cares outreach program. There are literally dozens of various NBA charities that came about without any other conveniently linked agenda. Quite honestly I don't know how you can believe that giving the proceeds away was the purpose behind The Decision, as opposed to a convenient (albeit generous) fallout.

“Hate me until I win eight titles! Then continue hating me, if you’d like, but at least maybe respect me then!”

I'd argue that it in fact doesn't get more arrogant than that.

The phrase "don't hate the playa, hit the game" couldn't be more flipped for me. I like his game, but hate the playa.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 23 2012 00:58 GMT
#6871
On June 23 2012 08:47 thuracine wrote:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1232211-nba-rumors-sources-reporting-okc-thunder-have-interest-in-phil-jackson

Already the rumors are flying


To be fair, Bleacher Report is the dregs of NBA...reporting.

http://deadspin.com/bleacher-report/
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 23 2012 01:13 GMT
#6872
On June 23 2012 09:39 Durp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 09:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
And I love how you just shrug off that the Decision was a fucking charity event and try to make it about Lebron's ego. You're right, him giving all the proceeds to charity was just a ruse. He can't possibly be a good person because you hate him.

I don't think that's a massive stretch imo.

It's not like other players in the NBA haven't found completely legitimate ways to raise money for youth in America- without having a self-aggrandizing TV spectacle.

Baron Davis' Rising Stars of America.
Deron Williams' Deron's Double Team
Tim Duncan's Character Program
Tyreke Evans' 'Reke Havoc Zone
Chris Paul's CP3 Zone

Then there's the NBA Cares outreach program. There are literally dozens of various NBA charities that came about without any other conveniently linked agenda. Quite honestly I don't know how you can believe that giving the proceeds away was the purpose behind The Decision, as opposed to a convenient (albeit generous) fallout.

“Hate me until I win eight titles! Then continue hating me, if you’d like, but at least maybe respect me then!”

I'd argue that it in fact doesn't get more arrogant than that.

The phrase "don't hate the playa, hit the game" couldn't be more flipped for me. I like his game, but hate the playa.


Those are all independent of the situation. There was mass public interest in Lebron's decision and he used it as a one time opportunity to raise a lot of money for children -- this goes beyond his consistent and league based charity work which matches all of those things you listed.

You hate him for acting like a doofus for the sake of children. At best, the worst thing he's done personally that can be totally attributed to him is the pep rally afterwards. But it was a damn pep rally.
Remember Violet.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 23 2012 01:21 GMT
#6873
Bosh is clearly one of the unsung heroes. He made everything easy for Lebron and Wade. Props to that man. He had to go under the spotlight and did the dirty work and didn't complain much. He can clearly put better stats but just sacrificed it for a ring. Awesome.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 02:08:35
June 23 2012 02:08 GMT
#6874
Bosh loves getting dirty.
[image loading]
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
June 23 2012 02:33 GMT
#6875
On June 23 2012 11:08 TieN.nS) wrote:
Bosh loves getting dirty.
[image loading]


So if Wade is Robin to Lebron's Batman, what does that make Bosh?

I leave you with this image, and your own opinions hahaha
[image loading]
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 23 2012 02:38 GMT
#6876
On June 23 2012 11:33 Durp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 11:08 TieN.nS) wrote:
Bosh loves getting dirty.
[image loading]


So if Wade is Robin to Lebron's Batman, what does that make Bosh?

I leave you with this image, and your own opinions hahaha
[image loading]

Alfred? :D
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 03:08:04
June 23 2012 03:04 GMT
#6877
On June 23 2012 10:13 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 09:39 Durp wrote:
On June 23 2012 09:16 TwoToneTerran wrote:
And I love how you just shrug off that the Decision was a fucking charity event and try to make it about Lebron's ego. You're right, him giving all the proceeds to charity was just a ruse. He can't possibly be a good person because you hate him.

I don't think that's a massive stretch imo.

It's not like other players in the NBA haven't found completely legitimate ways to raise money for youth in America- without having a self-aggrandizing TV spectacle.

Baron Davis' Rising Stars of America.
Deron Williams' Deron's Double Team
Tim Duncan's Character Program
Tyreke Evans' 'Reke Havoc Zone
Chris Paul's CP3 Zone

Then there's the NBA Cares outreach program. There are literally dozens of various NBA charities that came about without any other conveniently linked agenda. Quite honestly I don't know how you can believe that giving the proceeds away was the purpose behind The Decision, as opposed to a convenient (albeit generous) fallout.

“Hate me until I win eight titles! Then continue hating me, if you’d like, but at least maybe respect me then!”

I'd argue that it in fact doesn't get more arrogant than that.

The phrase "don't hate the playa, hit the game" couldn't be more flipped for me. I like his game, but hate the playa.


Those are all independent of the situation. There was mass public interest in Lebron's decision and he used it as a one time opportunity to raise a lot of money for children -- this goes beyond his consistent and league based charity work which matches all of those things you listed.

You hate him for acting like a doofus for the sake of children. At best, the worst thing he's done personally that can be totally attributed to him is the pep rally afterwards. But it was a damn pep rally.


If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 23 2012 04:30 GMT
#6878
On June 23 2012 11:33 Durp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 11:08 TieN.nS) wrote:
Bosh loves getting dirty.
[image loading]


So if Wade is Robin to Lebron's Batman, what does that make Bosh?

I leave you with this image, and your own opinions hahaha
[image loading]

that needs a brazzers logo
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
June 23 2012 07:51 GMT
#6879
[image loading]

??
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 23 2012 09:19 GMT
#6880
LOL you guys don't fail to deliver, I was scrolling down and thinking the exact same thing and BOOM, immediate logo :D

Alfred's a pretty good analogy too imo, he's there whenever you need him in the perfect place, and Batman is everywhere etc just like the analogies you guys were putting up lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
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