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On June 08 2012 10:57 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 10:55 Adreme wrote:On June 08 2012 10:53 Ace wrote:
Erm, the Spurs can't keep the lead if they are losing possessions. Especially when you know, their not a great defensive team that relies heavily on it's offense. A tech + a lost 3 for Stephen Jackson is a 4 point swing. Pretty fucking big in an NBA game. They lost 2 possestions in the 4th (one of those calls I agreed with) didnt cost them the game. Two possesions give you at most 6 points so what about the other 12. not sure if bad logic, or good troll....
Calling someone a troll doenst make you right. There were 3 calls people yelled about in 4th. 1 was the charge on Manu which was called according to the rule so it really isnt arguable. The second is the elbow/pick by Manu which put him in foul trouble and forced them to bench him for a bit. That one is slightly more questionable but he did extend his elbows which you really cant do when setting a pick (also he was moving slightly but you can get away with that) . The third one was a terrible call but one bad call when you blow an 18 point lead into being down 6 isnt the reason you lost.
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On June 08 2012 10:57 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 10:55 Leyra wrote:
Also, anyone who says that officiating doesn't impact the outcome of a game is completely assanine. Of coure officiating can offect the outcome of a game. Im just saying it has had a much more minimal impact than what people are argueing it did.
I'm sorry. But in my experience, bad reffing has a greater impact than even these guys are arguing, more than just the points in the possession directly affected. It deflates you, distracts you, demoralizes you, affects the succeeding plays. Although I'm not a pro player with as much experience, it's like that whenever I play and watch.
You're supposed to suck it up, maybe let it motivate you, but players are human. Except Lebron, who is obviously cyborg.
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On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown...
I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt.
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On June 08 2012 11:02 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt.
It's not trolling when someone disagrees with you.
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On June 08 2012 11:02 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt.
you never got a point across? All you said was that reffing isnt that important, then i point you to examples where reffing was important and you just walk away like you don't have to partake in the counter argument. All that shows me is that you really dont have a well though out concise argument, and you are just going to fall back on rhetoric like "refs dont put the ball in the basket!" when you know damn well that refs have a very huge impact on basketball.
If you think this is trolling, you should meet me in 4v4 RT
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On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdained basketball fans waiting for your breakdown...
Uh, the refs made some bad calls last night for sure but I don't think a direct comparison to game 6 of the 2002 WCF is warranted - that game was actually literally rigged by the refs.
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On June 08 2012 11:04 justinpal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:02 rei wrote:On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt. It's not trolling when someone disagrees with you.
it is trolling when he expect me to break down a 10 years old series where Kobe and Shaq in their prime had big shot Harry in their line up. and tell me that the Kings would have won bo7 if not for bad calls.
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On June 08 2012 11:04 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:02 rei wrote:On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt. you never got a point across? All you said was that reffing isnt that important, then i point you to examples where reffing was important and you just walk away like you don't have to partake in the counter argument. All that shows me is that you really dont have a well though out concise argument, and you are just going to fall back on rhetoric like "refs dont put the ball in the basket!" when you know damn well that refs have a very huge impact on basketball. If you think this is trolling, you should meet me in 4v4 RT
How about we 1vs1 random vs random grunge match bo9 and settle this shit?
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Pierce needs to take it to the rim instead of shooting all these damn jumpers.
It's amazing that Miami is so far ahead with Wade basically contributing nothing.
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wtf was batier doing thinking he can run a fast break ? come on!
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On June 08 2012 11:06 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:04 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 11:02 rei wrote:On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt. you never got a point across? All you said was that reffing isnt that important, then i point you to examples where reffing was important and you just walk away like you don't have to partake in the counter argument. All that shows me is that you really dont have a well though out concise argument, and you are just going to fall back on rhetoric like "refs dont put the ball in the basket!" when you know damn well that refs have a very huge impact on basketball. If you think this is trolling, you should meet me in 4v4 RT How about we 1vs1 random vs random grunge match bo9 and settle this shit?
oh shi.. thats a fight in my block
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How'd you rig a game refs
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On June 08 2012 11:05 c0ldfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdained basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... Uh, the refs made some bad calls last night for sure but I don't think a direct comparison to game 6 of the 2002 WCF is warranted - that game was actually literally rigged by the refs.
He said the refs have "never" won or lost a game, which is completely bull shit. Look at Ed Malloy ejecting Paul Pierce last year for an example, or the bad calls on Lebron in the game he fouled out. The 2002 example is just the most well noted example of refs controlling a series.
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Wade did such a good job keeping it away that his own team couldnt touch it
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On June 08 2012 11:09 Obstikal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2012 11:06 rei wrote:On June 08 2012 11:04 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 11:02 rei wrote:On June 08 2012 11:00 Holcan wrote:On June 08 2012 10:58 rei wrote:
I don't doubt bad calls can effect the game, however compare to the 2 teams playing, it's not significant enough to effect the result of the game, especially a best of 7 series. There is no amount of argument anyone can put up to suggest bad call is the reason spur lost their series to the thunders. What about Fisher's hero 3pointer and that blanker high off the glass at clutch time? What about Harden's dagger 3 in game 5? The players efforts counts so much more than whatever miss call you can single out in games. So why dont you point out how the Kings lost to the Lakers in the 2002 WCF due to pivotal game changing plays, rather than the refs, theres like a million disdain basketball fans waiting for your breakdown... I already got my point across, and you understood what i'm saying and you can't make another argument to refuse me. that's all I needed. I am not ganna get troll and spend any effort and time on your trolling attempt. you never got a point across? All you said was that reffing isnt that important, then i point you to examples where reffing was important and you just walk away like you don't have to partake in the counter argument. All that shows me is that you really dont have a well though out concise argument, and you are just going to fall back on rhetoric like "refs dont put the ball in the basket!" when you know damn well that refs have a very huge impact on basketball. If you think this is trolling, you should meet me in 4v4 RT How about we 1vs1 random vs random grunge match bo9 and settle this shit? oh shi.. thats a fight in my block
NERD WARS
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that wade sequence has got to be the funniest thing i've seen in a while.
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What was that? Wade moving screening Allen and then tossing him back.
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That tech... That call just so bad.
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EPT
