On April 29 2012 17:42 RowdierBob wrote:
Loool:
Loool:
i caught duhon doing that on the broadcast, and although the situation for me was like WTFBBQ DANNY GRANGER Y U TRAVEL it did crack me up.
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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
On April 29 2012 17:42 RowdierBob wrote: Loool: i caught duhon doing that on the broadcast, and although the situation for me was like WTFBBQ DANNY GRANGER Y U TRAVEL it did crack me up. | ||
igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On April 29 2012 15:05 andrewlt wrote: ACL tears normally aren't contact injuries. They're overuse injuries. Human beings didn't evolve to move laterally. Whenever somebody moves laterally, jukes, changes direction or does any type of movement that bends the knees sideways, it puts pressure on the ACL. After repeated fatigue, that thing can just give way at any moment. That's why many ACL tears happen without any contact whatsoever. For reference, see the Livingston ACL tear where it just gave way on a simple breakaway without anyone anywhere near him. From what I noticed, it takes a long time for players to receover from this type of injury. Even after the player is back, it takes a long time for them to get back to near what they were before the injury takes place. Rose probably won't play near as well as he currently was until around this time next year. Even if Rose were to fully recover, I doubt it will be before the 2013 season. I don't see how this assertion is true at all. While if you are tired, your stabilizer muscles won't provide enough strength to guard against slips, long term use has nothing to do with ACLs. ACL injuries are very common among high school athletes, especially girls (has to do with preventative strength and conditioning programs). If overuse were the case, we'd see ACL injuries steadily increase as athletes got older. But I think it's more common for the Jeremy Lins and Shumperts to tear their ACLs than old dinosaurs like Tim Duncan, Kobe, Nash, or Kidd. In non-tackle sports, ACLs tend to occur due to landing awkwardly, or planting wrong. | ||
VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On April 29 2012 17:03 slyboogie wrote: He slipped and his knee went one direction and the rest of his body another. I don't know if what andrewlt said is even true, but I have indeed seen a lot of ACLs just "go" on the landing. I think it's just if your knee tries to move in a way that it...can't, your ligament tears. Not that different from snapping a rubber band, I'd imagine, a piece of flesh only has so much tensile strength. That being said, Willis Mcgahee's tear in the 2002 Fiesta Bowl was the worst sports injury I have ever seen in my life. Willis McGahee luckily made a recovery, and he messed up absolutely everything possibly worth messing up inside his knee, that shit was horrid! Not to just pull up nasty injuries for the hell of it, but have you seen Henke Larsson's leg injury? To this day it still makes me queezy just by looking at it.. His shin just snaps (and yeah, that's his shinbone sticking out from his leg) | ||
RowdierBob
Australia12795 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 29 2012 18:52 VENDIZ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2012 17:03 slyboogie wrote: He slipped and his knee went one direction and the rest of his body another. I don't know if what andrewlt said is even true, but I have indeed seen a lot of ACLs just "go" on the landing. I think it's just if your knee tries to move in a way that it...can't, your ligament tears. Not that different from snapping a rubber band, I'd imagine, a piece of flesh only has so much tensile strength. That being said, Willis Mcgahee's tear in the 2002 Fiesta Bowl was the worst sports injury I have ever seen in my life. Willis McGahee luckily made a recovery, and he messed up absolutely everything possibly worth messing up inside his knee, that shit was horrid! Not to just pull up nasty injuries for the hell of it, but have you seen Henke Larsson's leg injury? To this day it still makes me queezy just by looking at it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4llH2axuBQ His shin just snaps (and yeah, that's his shinbone sticking out from his leg) Same thing happened to me from the knee down (dislocation + fracture, leg was dangling at a right angle from the knee) playing varsity in highschool (football/soccer). Took 2 years of physio to get the right leg to fully bend all the way down and my left leg is my dominant leg now, thats whatI jump off of. ACL's are not as severe but ligaments working fulltime is what keeps you explosive. Bones heal better once theyre fully healed. Thats what scares me. I dont doubt he will come back and still be a great player. But he may not be you know..."Derrick Rose." I really do worry tbh. Maybe its a personal thing aswell but if it slips again it goes out of control fast, and you know Derrick Rose isnt going to take it easy once hes fit. Thats not his game and thats why hes amazing. They will get him fit and going by the next season probably. That really isnt a concern. | ||
Tim17
France39 Posts
On April 29 2012 17:42 RowdierBob wrote: Loool: With the music, it's absolutly hilarious to me. | ||
Kaesebrot
Germany128 Posts
And I'm so sad the Mavs lost, they played so well - but no Luck at the end. | ||
Ace
United States16096 Posts
I think the Knicks would have gotten swept anyway. But you can't sit here with a straight face and say the Knicks were even given a fair chance in that game. The Lebron flops, the stunning flagrant on Chandler, the absolute trash calls for the slightest contact - trash game. I'm not going to blame Miami though - that was all on the refs. Ruined what was an extremely enjoyable game up to that point. | ||
justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:13 justinpal wrote: Watching Manu flop with no whistles even though they are playing in SA is so nice. Why couldn't this crew officiate the Miami/NY game? They even discussed a bad call by one of the refs when Hayward and Parker went for the ball earlier. God forbid the referees care more about getting the call right then saving face. Haters gonna hate. | ||
cLutZ
United States19571 Posts
On April 29 2012 15:05 andrewlt wrote: ACL tears normally aren't contact injuries. They're overuse injuries. Human beings didn't evolve to move laterally. Whenever somebody moves laterally, jukes, changes direction or does any type of movement that bends the knees sideways, it puts pressure on the ACL. After repeated fatigue, that thing can just give way at any moment. That's why many ACL tears happen without any contact whatsoever. For reference, see the Livingston ACL tear where it just gave way on a simple breakaway without anyone anywhere near him. From what I noticed, it takes a long time for players to receover from this type of injury. Even after the player is back, it takes a long time for them to get back to near what they were before the injury takes place. Rose probably won't play near as well as he currently was until around this time next year. Even if Rose were to fully recover, I doubt it will be before the 2013 season. The dumbest thing I've been hearing from people is, "Why was Rose in the Game!??" Well, when I saw his ACL tear (and I used to test ACLs for my BioE undergrad) it looked exactly like the kind of ACL tear that would have happened in the 2nd quarter of Game 2 if it didn't happen yesterday. The tendon was clearly incredibly weak, Rose does that same exact jumpstop 15 times a game. | ||
igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On April 29 2012 17:58 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2012 17:49 RowdierBob wrote: People saying Rose will be back for the new season are delusional. ACL's are horrible injuries for any athlete and take roughly 9 months to recover from. It doesn't matter how good your rehab is etc, you need a lot of time to recover and rehab from it. Rose might make it back by December at best. Whats more worrisome is wether he will regain and maintain the explosiveness. Thats something Rose relies on heavily, you can see how debilitating injuries ruin players *cough* Davis *cough* (ok hes old but still). Davis tore his ACL in college, I thought? And he was still pretty much a baller in Charlotte and New Orleans. But yes, just look at Amare in 2002-2004. He was basically Blake Griffin before he hurt his knee. He still has the moves and he can get up but not with the same raw burst. And Chris Paul didn't even tear his ACL but that knee injury sapped so much of his pure speed, it's sad. Just go put in your old VHS tapes of him at Wake Forest and his first 3 years as a Hornet. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:45 igotmyown wrote: So is McGee any good on the Nuggets, or is he still in Wizards mode? Still got some derp moments but a lot better. | ||
justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
On April 30 2012 03:24 cLutZ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2012 15:05 andrewlt wrote: ACL tears normally aren't contact injuries. They're overuse injuries. Human beings didn't evolve to move laterally. Whenever somebody moves laterally, jukes, changes direction or does any type of movement that bends the knees sideways, it puts pressure on the ACL. After repeated fatigue, that thing can just give way at any moment. That's why many ACL tears happen without any contact whatsoever. For reference, see the Livingston ACL tear where it just gave way on a simple breakaway without anyone anywhere near him. From what I noticed, it takes a long time for players to receover from this type of injury. Even after the player is back, it takes a long time for them to get back to near what they were before the injury takes place. Rose probably won't play near as well as he currently was until around this time next year. Even if Rose were to fully recover, I doubt it will be before the 2013 season. The dumbest thing I've been hearing from people is, "Why was Rose in the Game!??" Well, when I saw his ACL tear (and I used to test ACLs for my BioE undergrad) it looked exactly like the kind of ACL tear that would have happened in the 2nd quarter of Game 2 if it didn't happen yesterday. The tendon was clearly incredibly weak, Rose does that same exact jumpstop 15 times a game. well said. I personally blame the condensed schedule =\ | ||
Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia12795 Posts
Floyd Mayweather has 1.8 Million on the Clippers +6 tonight (7 Different Sports Books) | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 30 2012 04:54 slyboogie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 29 2012 17:58 Rebs wrote: On April 29 2012 17:49 RowdierBob wrote: People saying Rose will be back for the new season are delusional. ACL's are horrible injuries for any athlete and take roughly 9 months to recover from. It doesn't matter how good your rehab is etc, you need a lot of time to recover and rehab from it. Rose might make it back by December at best. Whats more worrisome is wether he will regain and maintain the explosiveness. Thats something Rose relies on heavily, you can see how debilitating injuries ruin players *cough* Davis *cough* (ok hes old but still). Davis tore his ACL in college, I thought? And he was still pretty much a baller in Charlotte and New Orleans. But yes, just look at Amare in 2002-2004. He was basically Blake Griffin before he hurt his knee. He still has the moves and he can get up but not with the same raw burst. And Chris Paul didn't even tear his ACL but that knee injury sapped so much of his pure speed, it's sad. Just go put in your old VHS tapes of him at Wake Forest and his first 3 years as a Hornet. Well I just said debilitating injury. that includes all the people you mentioned, I dont know if he tore his ACL or not, I was talking about the back. And he was baller before that. | ||
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