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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 12:10 GMT
#27721
transcendent one was just temp banned for 2 days by Waxangel.

That account was created on 2012-07-16 18:35:36 and had 89 posts.

Reason:
On September 20 2012 18:05 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 17:00 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:21 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:18 ThePlayer33 wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:09 walklightwhat wrote:
On September 20 2012 16:06 schmutttt wrote:
As much as I love IdrA I'd prefer to see Sen there. Sen goes to school and makes more than enough money off the TeSL so he doesn't travel much. His skill level is ridiculous, even IdrA would tell you Sen is among the top couple foreign Zergs.


People keep saying that and yet there aren't results to back up this ridiculous skill level.

he does have results, winning WCS Taiwan with dropping a game. there is a lack of tournaments in asia. GM on korea which most foreigners cant reach.


No, read my earlier post.

His results are like an exact, if smaller sample, replica of IdrA's. Beating bad players, losing to the best Koreans, dropping games to people he shouldn't and with the occasional series win thrown in.

Sen is awesome at his best, but like I said once, evidence he'd be any more likely to beat an excellent Korean in the World Championships is non-existant.

sen did beat byun and MMA in bo7s recently. I was arguing for Sen over any other NA player except idra
the beating bad players thing apply to scarlett, though she hasn't participated in many big events at all, so she hasn't had a chance to play koreans.

foreigners aren't playing well right now anyway(no stephano) given the recent MLG(the most recent korean vs foreigner tourney)you have nerchio and maybe Vortix who played a few koreans during their runs. placing Sen with these guys doesn't mean that much.

at their peak no foreigner except stephano/huk/jinro/naniwa even come close to greg.

id call idra and sen old dogs


man, you fanboys are deluded...

Sen is definitely more deserving than idra, if you mean skill peak that's sad for idra because he has about a 30% winrate in 2012 so his peak was 1 year ago the least, and sen beat some top class koreans/foreigners in 2012

there are like 100 players better than idra. i get it that you're fans but dont be ridiculous. i like him too but try to think objectively just for a second



not the right thread
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 12:13 GMT
#27722
mathiaszhu was just banned by Waxangel.

That account was created on 2012-09-17 17:42:06 and had 3 posts.

Reason: spam :O
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 13:43 GMT
#27723
Supamang was just temp banned for 2 days by micronesia.

That account was created on 2010-06-02 09:46:30 and had 1984 posts.

Reason: Oh COME ON, you've been specifically warned before to not argue in this thread, and you do it again.... using a meme picture.

Your posts doesn't even contribute a funny picture at all. Take a break.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 13:43 GMT
#27724
wildandbare was just banned by Waxangel.

That account was created on 2012-09-20 21:58:40 and had 1 posts.

Reason: adbot
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 14:37 GMT
#27725
VPteaCher was just banned by monk..

That account was created on 2011-09-06 12:12:43 and had 4 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 14:54 GMT
#27726
hocash was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2010-12-08 11:47:00 and had 78 posts.

Reason:
On September 20 2012 23:14 hocash wrote:
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On September 20 2012 12:11 Belha wrote:
Your analysis is totally low levelish, or you have no idea about toss play, anyways, low level toss.

The cost of the Tempest and tempest tech is just too much for real competitive play. Cost in money, and tempo.
If you go to tempest, and you in even foot with your opponent (in case you're ahead, the tempest then is irrelevant), the the cost and tempo to develop/fund the tech is just insanelly high (again, in a high level game, this is just freaking obvious for any serious toss player).

And the last, but not the less important fact, is the total lack of punch, aka impact once it appears in the game. Ok you warped in 2 tempests, so you invested a lot in those 2 flagships, so what? Of curse that with such investment you have to play defensive. The tempest is just a weak unit for fights. Weak as fuck.

For terrans, once medivacs come into play, then is a huge improve for infantry. Once stim comes into play, is a big hit. Once siege tanks are up, is very important. Same once protoss get the first collosus vs those infantry pushes, is "the wall" vs those attacks, same for storms, huge investment, big impact. Same for dts, same for those first 10-12 mutas, those infestors with fungal, those broods.

What make them hit the board with such presence? You make a huge investment, survived, and now you have a turning weapon for any battle.

Tempest? Nope. Not at all. Dps less than an hidra but at an insane cost (again, not talking about the 300/300 only).

As i said before, i'm not smart saying this, is pretty freaking obvious. But it pisses me off that some guy with no idea about the real game (the game where tempest suck, where we all knew the warhound was op even with the before beta stats and so on), talks like if he just discover the Americas. It pisses me off one thing is just discussing about the unit, but you are CLAIMING that you understand more than the average people!

TLDR: Tempest right now SUCKS. Due how protoss works, THERE IS NO TEMPO IN AN EVEN GAME TO USE THE TEMPEST.


LOL you are a tool. First, the tone of your response is just idiotic. Let's start there.

But on a substantive level, you don't know jack shit about how this unit will be balanced in the retail version. It could take up less supply (likely) or get it's range back. It's a fucking beta, moron. They put the unit out there so people will test it.

As the OP said, it's great for forcing engagements. And even if your army is down 18 supply because you have 3 tempests doesn't mean you auto lose. If zerg attacks into a choke they are no favorite with force fields and splash damage. The bonus damage to massive means brood lords have to be very careful.

The tempest is designed to force late game engagement instead of two deathballs jockeying for position and it actually does the trick.

You're a fucking moron.

We don't post like this here.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 15:28 GMT
#27727
Lefaa was just temp banned for 2 days by heyoka.

That account was created on 2012-01-09 17:10:32 and had 168 posts.

Reason: Cut out the country bashing.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 15:58 GMT
#27728
Walitgon was just temp banned for 2 days by heyoka.

That account was created on 2012-05-21 13:50:46 and had 297 posts.

Reason: Take the memes out of here.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 15:59 GMT
#27729
Sroobz was just temp banned for 1 week by heyoka.

That account was created on 2011-12-05 10:33:38 and had 1375 posts.

Reason: Don't post in the LR threads if you're just going to whine about everything.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 16:00 GMT
#27730
dragonboliero was just temp banned for 2 days by heyoka.

That account was created on 2012-07-12 05:13:05 and had 2 posts.

Reason: Don't post if you're doing to do that.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 16:07 GMT
#27731
Douillos was just temp banned for 2 days by heyoka.

That account was created on 2010-05-17 20:21:48 and had 1285 posts.

Reason: Please don't balance whine.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 19:24 GMT
#27732
Brumy was just banned by Antoine.

That account was created on 2012-09-21 04:21:59 and had 0 posts.

Reason: wait out your ban
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 21:23 GMT
#27733
Ostby was just temp banned for 2 days by GMarshal.

That account was created on 2011-06-03 16:37:35 and had 34 posts.

Reason: Yeah, calling a guy who has made free show and contributed a shit ton to the community "lazy or greedy" is entirely appropriate

What have you done for the community? Or are you "lazy or greedy"?
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 22:20 GMT
#27734
Maker was just temp banned for 30 days by R1CH.

That account was created on 2010-11-21 12:15:02 and had 68 posts.

Reason: You've been warned three times about selling beta keys. Enough.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 22:20 GMT
#27735
petershrew was just banned by R1CH.

That account was created on 2012-09-21 06:44:11 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Advertising.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 20 2012 22:31 GMT
#27736
Coated was just temp banned for 2 days by Harem.

That account was created on 2011-08-25 14:21:20 and had 74 posts.

Reason: cool whining bro

ps maybe during the next few days, you could work on your reading comprehension as he wasn't even talking about sc2
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 21 2012 08:11 GMT
#27737
Garmer was just temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-10-31 04:13:52 and had 897 posts.

Reason:
On September 21 2012 16:28 Garmer wrote:
yo dawg we heard you like mech so we put a mech in a bio, so you can meching while bioing

blizzard is trolling hard


Retarded memes not welcome here. Not the first time you were warned about this.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 21 2012 08:13 GMT
#27738
gosublade was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-05-10 22:56:37 and had 322 posts.

Reason: This is not an image board.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 21 2012 08:14 GMT
#27739
Fungal Growth was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-11-08 10:24:59 and had 371 posts.

Reason: Envoking Godwin's law far too early.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net135 Posts
September 21 2012 08:15 GMT
#27740
Legion710 was just temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2010-11-16 06:17:47 and had 390 posts.

Reason: Balance whines bring you guys out of the woodwork don't they.
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