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On March 07 2012 17:03 DT-Toss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 16:57 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On March 07 2012 16:51 DT-Toss wrote:
If you guys don't know about asian's culture and they way she put things into perspective, shut the fuck up and stop commenting her for being overreacted.
What Jessica said is true. When Slayers wanted to keep Dragon as a member, Dragon gave excuses and lied to Jessica about his committment to work and can't focus on SC2 and will only take SC2 as a hobby.
Infact, look at it. If you're focus on work, you shouldn't be streaming 24/7 instead. He just wanted to leave Slayers and join other team.
What a scum. Whether what she is saying is true or not is irrelevant, the fact that the general manager of slayers is publicly bashing a former player is simply unacceptable behavior. I don't know a lot about Korean culture but I seriously doubt this is conduct becoming of someone like Jessica. Sorry but in Korean customs and culture, seniority (Jessica as big sister) is a pillar of Korea's Confucianist traditions. So lying to your senior is a no-no. In this case, dragon lied about his departure and Jessica accepted because dragon was committed to "work" and not programming as a career but turned out to be bulls.
I agree. People know jack shit about Korean culture. I'm Korean and I'm pretty sure every Korean woman I know would react like this. I can easily see how the environment at Slayers is like that of a family and that Jessica sees the players as sort of her children that she takes care of.
He basically posted on Twitter that he was leaving Slayers without even telling Jessica or Boxer! That's equivalent to breaking up with your girlfriend via email or text message or maybe even a Facebook status change. There's no law against that, but you can't deny that there's an extremely high probability that your ex-girlfriend is going to talk mad shit about you if you do that.... esp. if she happens to be Korean.
So trust me. In the Korean culture, Dragon got the verbal bashing he deserved and should have expected for being so shady about the whole thing. What Jessica said isn't even that bad if you read it in Korean - pretty much just rants and calls him a liar. I'm pretty sure my mother or aunts would have said a lot worse. You just can't pull that kind of shit in Korea
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Ooooh yeah.
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On March 07 2012 18:54 redemption wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 17:03 DT-Toss wrote:On March 07 2012 16:57 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On March 07 2012 16:51 DT-Toss wrote:
If you guys don't know about asian's culture and they way she put things into perspective, shut the fuck up and stop commenting her for being overreacted.
What Jessica said is true. When Slayers wanted to keep Dragon as a member, Dragon gave excuses and lied to Jessica about his committment to work and can't focus on SC2 and will only take SC2 as a hobby.
Infact, look at it. If you're focus on work, you shouldn't be streaming 24/7 instead. He just wanted to leave Slayers and join other team.
What a scum. Whether what she is saying is true or not is irrelevant, the fact that the general manager of slayers is publicly bashing a former player is simply unacceptable behavior. I don't know a lot about Korean culture but I seriously doubt this is conduct becoming of someone like Jessica. Sorry but in Korean customs and culture, seniority (Jessica as big sister) is a pillar of Korea's Confucianist traditions. So lying to your senior is a no-no. In this case, dragon lied about his departure and Jessica accepted because dragon was committed to "work" and not programming as a career but turned out to be bulls. I agree. People know jack shit about Korean culture. I'm Korean and I'm pretty sure every Korean woman I know would react like this. I can easily see how the environment at Slayers is like that of a family and that Jessica sees the players as sort of her children that she takes care of. He basically posted on Twitter that he was leaving Slayers without even telling Jessica or Boxer! That's equivalent to breaking up with your girlfriend via email or text message or maybe even a Facebook status change. There's no law against that, but you can't deny that there's an extremely high probability that your ex-girlfriend is going to talk mad shit about you if you do that.... esp. if she happens to be Korean. So trust me. In the Korean culture, Dragon got the verbal bashing he deserved and should have expected for being so shady about the whole thing. What Jessica said isn't even that bad if you read it in Korean - pretty much just rants and calls him a liar. I'm pretty sure my mother or aunts would have said a lot worse. You just can't pull that kind of shit in Korea
Sadly, many here don't understand Korean culture well before they comments.
Like i said, some should shut the fuck up just for the sake of replying.
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On March 07 2012 17:40 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 17:32 Taku wrote:
Holy crap so much misogyny and cultural misunderstanding in this thread O_o What cultural misunderstandings? When Jessica brought this to twitter it stopped being a cultural misunderstandings but simple business. Maybe its her who does not understand that. Washing the dirts in public is one of the worst thing you can do a specially if what you care is only your ego. Its not about Korean custom, or maybe Korean custom tells you to go to twitter and tell EVERYONE about what someone said or did and that hes liar.
LOL actually in a weird way, yes our culture DOES sort of encourage going to twitter and telling everyone. Koreans are really vocal and aggressive, especially when they feel disrespected.
There's a reason that we're stereotyped as belligerent, wife-beaters...
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Dragon is looking more and more like a Korean Destiny nowadays. He's still young and he made a misstep in not letting his former team know about joining Millenium. Best of luck to him still.
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On March 07 2012 19:04 redemption wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 17:40 bgx wrote:On March 07 2012 17:32 Taku wrote:
Holy crap so much misogyny and cultural misunderstanding in this thread O_o What cultural misunderstandings? When Jessica brought this to twitter it stopped being a cultural misunderstandings but simple business. Maybe its her who does not understand that. Washing the dirts in public is one of the worst thing you can do a specially if what you care is only your ego. Its not about Korean custom, or maybe Korean custom tells you to go to twitter and tell EVERYONE about what someone said or did and that hes liar. LOL actually in a weird way, yes our culture DOES sort of encourage going to twitter and telling everyone. Koreans are really vocal and aggressive, especially when they feel disrespected. There's a reason that we're stereotyped as belligerent, wife-beaters...
Don't you also find it interesting that while we encourage that kind of behavior in some settings, we also at the same time support mitigated speech and tiptoeing around issues? It's because the social structure is so hierarchical.
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It looks like the one overreacting is TC......
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What a drama queen. Culture irrelevant. If you leave a team, it's not really their business what you do once you leave. Players leave because they WANT freedom.
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Probably doesn't need to be said again, but I'm also Korean-American and Jessica's reaction seems pretty reasonable to me as well ;;
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On March 07 2012 19:16 dearyuna wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:04 redemption wrote:On March 07 2012 17:40 bgx wrote:On March 07 2012 17:32 Taku wrote:
Holy crap so much misogyny and cultural misunderstanding in this thread O_o What cultural misunderstandings? When Jessica brought this to twitter it stopped being a cultural misunderstandings but simple business. Maybe its her who does not understand that. Washing the dirts in public is one of the worst thing you can do a specially if what you care is only your ego. Its not about Korean custom, or maybe Korean custom tells you to go to twitter and tell EVERYONE about what someone said or did and that hes liar. LOL actually in a weird way, yes our culture DOES sort of encourage going to twitter and telling everyone. Koreans are really vocal and aggressive, especially when they feel disrespected. There's a reason that we're stereotyped as belligerent, wife-beaters... Don't you also find it interesting that while we encourage that kind of behavior in some settings, we also at the same time support mitigated speech and tiptoeing around issues? It's because the social structure is so hierarchical.
Yeah so true. For example, being born and raised in America, I get really worried when I visit Korea because I'm not sure how I'm supposed to interact. It's easy when someone is much older or much younger, but when I talk to people that look around my age, I get confused. Do I ask everybody how old they are? I feel that urgency to determine my place in that social hierarchy at all times.
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I'm not even Korean and it seems reasonable to me.
Either way SlayerS would have let him go. It was a matter of respect that he told them what was really up instead of fabricating some lie.
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On March 07 2012 19:23 DarKcS wrote:
What a drama queen. Culture irrelevant. If you leave a team, it's not really their business what you do once you leave. Players leave because they WANT freedom.
You spout culture irrelevant, then your next sentence is a heavy western cultural view. Oh the irony.
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The line ''You never know what you have until you lost it'' simply fits perfectly here.
This situation is just unnecessary drama, unprofessional from Jessicas side.
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On March 07 2012 19:29 Cinim wrote:
The line ''You never know what you have until you lost it'' simply fits perfectly here.
This situation is just unnecessary drama, unprofessional from Jessicas side.
That platitude definitely does not fit here because Dragon, although pretty good, is nowhere near the level of the other Terrans on Slayers. It's clearly more an issue of respect.
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he wasnt even a player at the slayers house, why such a big deal?
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i dont see any evidence of korean netizens making a big deal out of jessica's comments, and last time i checked, slayers is still based in korea. korea, as in korea with EASTERN cultural views, not western. so i'd say culture insensitivity plays a large part in those who misunderstand jessica's comments and play it off as dramatic and unprofessional. i myself find nothing wrong with what jessica wrote, it was not inflammatory in nature, nor was it slanderous. granted she has wrote worse, but this should not have been blown out of such proportions by people who do not understand eastern culture.
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Who's next on the dragon fanboys hitlist? This Jessica target hasn't gone as well for them as the Katu fuss.
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Why do we need several threads of this twitter drama?
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