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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
March 07 2012 08:55 GMT
#121
time to go make some popcorn. slayers fans vs dragon fans is on tonight.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 07 2012 08:57 GMT
#122
On March 07 2012 17:51 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:50 Telcontar wrote:
Either Dragon flat out lied to avoid dealing with SlayerS about changing teams, or he genuinely had a change of heart. I think Jessica of all people would've considered the latter, since Ganzi did the same thing when he left IM saying he wanted to stop playing, and was picked up by SlayerS. Obviously she feels there's more to it than just that. Since we don't really know how things went down, we should reserve judgement (for both sides) untill more light is shined on the matter. If that never happens, we should just move on.


If you followed his twitter or watched his stream at the time of his leaving SlayerS, you would know that he was actively looking for a team right after. This wasn't a change of heart, it was an excuse.

edit: although I agree we should just move on.

Oh is that right? Then Jessica definitely has a right to feel disappointed. I wonder why Dragon didn't just straight up tell SlayerS that he wanted to look for another team. It's not like he was an important squad member. Maybe something to do with his contract?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
March 07 2012 09:01 GMT
#123
Who is the real drama queen here? Jessica or the TL community?

When we don't know what actually happens and just see some tweets, we shouldn't jump to conclusion, filling out the details with our imagination.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
mrGRAPE
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore293 Posts
March 07 2012 09:03 GMT
#124
On March 07 2012 18:01 [F_]aths wrote:
Who is the real drama queen here? Jessica or the TL community?

When we don't know what actually happens and just see some tweets, we shouldn't jump to conclusion, filling out the details with our imagination.


I think it's right to say that both Jessica and the TL community have drama tendencies. I mean, just look at all the eSports drama that has been happening on the TL forums lately. lol
Starcraft 2 and eSports enthusiast. https://twitter.com/#!/mrGRAPETV | http://mrgrapetv.wordpress.com/
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
March 07 2012 09:03 GMT
#125
I say this in basically every Jessica thread, but she is ALWAYS overreacting/creating mountains out of molehills, being melodramatic, etc. Personally I have been finding it extremeeeely inappropriate, but yeah.
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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
March 07 2012 09:08 GMT
#126
On March 07 2012 18:01 [F_]aths wrote:
Who is the real drama queen here? Jessica or the TL community?

When we don't know what actually happens and just see some tweets, we shouldn't jump to conclusion, filling out the details with our imagination.

Probably both. The last 6 months here on TL have been a real soap opera. It's been hard doging all those threads and posts.
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
March 07 2012 09:09 GMT
#127
On March 07 2012 18:03 Vei wrote:
I say this in basically every Jessica thread, but she is ALWAYS overreacting/creating mountains out of molehills, being melodramatic, etc. Personally I have been finding it extremeeeely inappropriate, but yeah.


your head is stuck in america. what's right where you are is not right where she is. "cultural differences" no wonder you keep repeating yourself
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:12:35
March 07 2012 09:10 GMT
#128
On March 07 2012 16:16 EatsDirt wrote:
Seems like causing drama for the sake of drama.

Edit: THE scum of the earth thing was ment to be an exaggeration play on jessicas exaggeration of the situation. I am sorry i put it i sould have made it more clear it was an exaggeration i thought people would check the twitter statement. I AM SORRY!!!! Please dont focus on that i was merely trying to defend dragon here!!

... 'drama for the sake of drama' but you overexaggerated the situation ... yay?

We don't know what happened between them, and unless Dragon responds, it doesn't really matter what we may or may not think.

In addition, different culture ... he may, in fact have lied (or he may not), and it may be a bigger thing there ... meh. He just joined Millennium, so maybe she thinks he used some fake reason to leave Slayers so he could join ... or she could be wrong. we don't know.

Didn't deserve a thread ...
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:16:59
March 07 2012 09:14 GMT
#129
Maybe all of you would prefer a fluffy, meaningless PR statement out of Jessica like "Congrats to Dragon for joining Millennium , good luck in your future."


But for me I think its refreshing to hear someone who was associated with Dragon actually speak her feelings. Whats wrong with her being honest about what she thinks of the situation?


Eit: And btw how the hell is this even any of this our business? We (the community) don't even know the full story of the controversy behind the Dragon scandal or any of the inside details that might have happened between Dragon and the Slayers team yet we are judging Jessica and Dragon super hard. Can we just leave this between them?
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
yellowmoe
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada59 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:25:02
March 07 2012 09:14 GMT
#130
I reread jessica's twitters, but I don't understand why everyone hates her. She is sad because dragon lied about the reason of leaving Slayers clan, and to express her feelings, she put it on twitter.

I am sure if dragon told the news about Millenium to the Slayers clan, Slayers jessica woudn't have been so upset. I think from her perspective, it looks dragon left family for money.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
March 07 2012 09:15 GMT
#131
This might sound crazy to us westerners, but maybe there are cultures in other parts of the world that value collectivism over individualism. I don't get why people keep using their own set of values to judge others.
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
March 07 2012 09:16 GMT
#132
I agree with Jessica here, It seems that Dragon lied to her. She is just saying that she is hurt by the fact that he lied, not that he left the team. She does make mention of others leaving and her being ok with it.
papyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines716 Posts
March 07 2012 09:20 GMT
#133
I agree with jessica too. Im a big fan of dragon but I guess he made an alibi to go to work so he can find a foreign team he can join. Nevertheless, I still love slayers and dragon.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:24:14
March 07 2012 09:20 GMT
#134
On March 07 2012 18:03 mrGRAPE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:01 [F_]aths wrote:
Who is the real drama queen here? Jessica or the TL community?

When we don't know what actually happens and just see some tweets, we shouldn't jump to conclusion, filling out the details with our imagination.


I think it's right to say that both Jessica and the TL community have drama tendencies. I mean, just look at all the eSports drama that has been happening on the TL forums lately. lol


I agree, when all you have is someone's twitter post, what use is there to jump into conclusions?

Hell, what use is there for anyone to discuss it even if you had every fact down to every single detail?

Can we do anything about the Slayers v. Dragon relationship, IF there is actually any problem?
Does it even affect us? Will Dragon going to play worse due to this? Will Jessica leave Slayers house or something?

We just DON'T KNOW. We just don't even know what's the problem. God, these threads are stupid. I occasionally read some 'drama' threads, and while some may be important and encourage discussion, (like the Naniwa and the Blizz Cup incident) so far only thing I see in these threads are people throwing stuff at each other, going all around speculating while practically doing nothing.

Just wait for a official statement release. Read it, and try to understand it, and then start talking about it.

If I were a TL admin I would lock down these threads until there's enough data for discussion. Say the Blizcup incident. After both sides have released their statements (let's say Naniwa and GSL?), there is enough data to start a discussion. The PuMa drama is a good example. Coach Lee blamed EG for stealing their player, then EG released their statement and as it turns out there wasn't really any stealing at all. But until that point, the floods of drama have just drowned TL.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
March 07 2012 09:21 GMT
#135
can we as a community PLEASE stop giving so much attention to stupid drama for the sake of drama threads? This really doesn't deserve so much attention, I hate seeing so many people focusing on this kind of drama all the time, I feel like this sort of stuff gets more attention that the game sometimes, and that makes me really sad :/
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
March 07 2012 09:24 GMT
#136
Um.....
1) Dragon left SlayerS saying that he would focus on work.
2) SlayerS says "okay, good luck with your life and your work"
3) Dragon joins a foreign team
4) SlayerS says "wtf?"

You think that is unreasonable? hmmm... unless there is more information here, sorry, but that's extremely BM from Dragon for not talking with SlayerS before joining a foreign team, and for lying in the first place.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 07 2012 09:27 GMT
#137
Guys I'm trying to work, if you would please keep this discussion OT and not insult each other, Jessica or Dragon that would be great. Two new reports pop up for every one I close = not good for business.

Thanks!

ModeratorFather of bunnies
DT-Toss
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)59 Posts
March 07 2012 09:45 GMT
#138
On March 07 2012 18:27 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Guys I'm trying to work, if you would please keep this discussion OT and not insult each other, Jessica or Dragon that would be great. Two new reports pop up for every one I close = not good for business.

Thanks!



나도 당신을 사랑해 <3
Asian is better in gaming. Enuff' said.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
March 07 2012 09:47 GMT
#139
On March 07 2012 18:09 Disposition1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:03 Vei wrote:
I say this in basically every Jessica thread, but she is ALWAYS overreacting/creating mountains out of molehills, being melodramatic, etc. Personally I have been finding it extremeeeely inappropriate, but yeah.


your head is stuck in america. what's right where you are is not right where she is. "cultural differences" no wonder you keep repeating yourself


Everyone keeps citing "culture differences" when it comes to Jessica and her vindictive tweets. Is this common in Korea?
yellowmoe
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada59 Posts
March 07 2012 09:54 GMT
#140
On March 07 2012 18:47 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 18:09 Disposition1989 wrote:
On March 07 2012 18:03 Vei wrote:
I say this in basically every Jessica thread, but she is ALWAYS overreacting/creating mountains out of molehills, being melodramatic, etc. Personally I have been finding it extremeeeely inappropriate, but yeah.


your head is stuck in america. what's right where you are is not right where she is. "cultural differences" no wonder you keep repeating yourself


Everyone keeps citing "culture differences" when it comes to Jessica and her vindictive tweets. Is this common in Korea?


It is common to vent with your close ones, especially for females. It is better to say it then holding it in.
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