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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
March 07 2012 08:11 GMT
#81
cant they like PM to each other or join private conversation, why everything needs to be so blown out, seriously, Jessica learn something about PR
Stork[gm]
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
March 07 2012 08:12 GMT
#82
On March 07 2012 17:09 pdd wrote:
Jessica should calm down.

Dragon's not worth raging over. I really don't think he takes the game as seriously as he should and the biggest risk-bearer in this whole signing is Millenium. It's quite clear that they've only signed him due to his popularity.

He's spent so many months in SlayerS and trolling bronze-leaguers on NA and yet his biggest achievement to date is just his GSL Open Season qualification.

Why bother raging when you have a player who's heart and mind isn't where SlayerS's culture is?

Doesnt take games seriously? he got into slayers its not something u can do without trying really really hard and its a big committment to start progaming, u drop studies u drop work to do this, u cant just decide to be a progamer get into slayers and be like "oh....i guess i wanna work now and drop sc2 progaming" i bet there are hundreds of gamers that are busting their balls out to get on a team like slayers
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
March 07 2012 08:13 GMT
#83
On March 07 2012 17:10 DT-Toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:07 KawaiiRice wrote:
On March 07 2012 17:01 Corrosive wrote:
As far as i know dragon had a change of heart when he realized that he actually would like to play sc2 professionally after leaving slayers. so he searched for a team. I don't really even know how much dragon was involved with slayers. He seemed like an independant entity to me. He participated in ONE team league for slayers? and he never stayed in the house right? seems like a gigantic overreaction. o_o




based on these two tweets I really doubt he just changed his mind... just look at the dates.
dragon can do what he wants, but there is probably truth to what jessica is saying.


Fucking true.

1st) He left Slayers with a T_T
2nd) He searching for Team after a month

Big fat lier.


You made acc just to comment in this thread ? Good job sir.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 07 2012 08:13 GMT
#84
The only people overreacting are those in this thread tossing around baseless and wild accusation one way or another.
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
March 07 2012 08:13 GMT
#85
From what little i know about koreans they do take lying and especially betraying the trust of seniors as something very insulting. I don't think it's Jessica, more like the clash of western vs eastern world views.
Beastyqt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Serbia516 Posts
March 07 2012 08:14 GMT
#86
Jessica is right, you dont lie to people who helped you and took you in their team after you were cheating and in return you do this? but I guess if screwing over your friends IRL like this for you is "lol wuteva" then its ok I guess.
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DT-Toss
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)59 Posts
March 07 2012 08:14 GMT
#87
On March 07 2012 17:12 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:09 pdd wrote:
Jessica should calm down.

Dragon's not worth raging over. I really don't think he takes the game as seriously as he should and the biggest risk-bearer in this whole signing is Millenium. It's quite clear that they've only signed him due to his popularity.

He's spent so many months in SlayerS and trolling bronze-leaguers on NA and yet his biggest achievement to date is just his GSL Open Season qualification.

Why bother raging when you have a player who's heart and mind isn't where SlayerS's culture is?

Doesnt take games seriously? he got into slayers its not something u can do without trying really really hard and its a big committment to start progaming, u drop studies u drop work to do this, u cant just decide to be a progamer get into slayers and be like "oh....i guess i wanna work now and drop sc2 progaming" i bet there are hundreds of gamers that are busting their balls out to get on a team like slayers


How fucking true.

In korea, progamming is a career and it's not a joke. There were thousands trying so hard to get into one of the best team "Slayers". It's not like you joined and leave like your own fucking wills.
Asian is better in gaming. Enuff' said.
DT-Toss
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)59 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 08:15:29
March 07 2012 08:15 GMT
#88
On March 07 2012 17:13 vanhio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:10 DT-Toss wrote:
On March 07 2012 17:07 KawaiiRice wrote:
On March 07 2012 17:01 Corrosive wrote:
As far as i know dragon had a change of heart when he realized that he actually would like to play sc2 professionally after leaving slayers. so he searched for a team. I don't really even know how much dragon was involved with slayers. He seemed like an independant entity to me. He participated in ONE team league for slayers? and he never stayed in the house right? seems like a gigantic overreaction. o_o

https://twitter.com/#!/slayersdragon/status/158828584990031872
https://twitter.com/#!/SC2dragon/status/170289165613793282

based on these two tweets I really doubt he just changed his mind... just look at the dates.
dragon can do what he wants, but there is probably truth to what jessica is saying.


Fucking true.

1st) He left Slayers with a T_T
2nd) He searching for Team after a month

Big fat lier.


You made acc just to comment in this thread ? Good job sir.


What's wrong? You got a problem?
Asian is better in gaming. Enuff' said.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 07 2012 08:15 GMT
#89
I dont think we have the full story. These teams put a lot of effort into helping their players, so obviously there will be disappointment if one leaves, and somewhat an element of loss.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 08:17:23
March 07 2012 08:16 GMT
#90
How can you guys possibly vilify Jessica for protecting the best interests of her players/team?

I'm actually ashamed on behalf of the dense idiots telling Jessica to 'quiet down'. If she feels she got lied to and betrayed (which she did) why can't she say something to vent her feelings? Maybe some of you accusers should take a second to understand the difference (in cultural context) a man's words can make.. I think it's very different to the one you experience inside your cocoon-like gaming pad.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
March 07 2012 08:19 GMT
#91
On March 07 2012 17:15 Nekovivie wrote:
I dont think we have the full story. These teams put a lot of effort into helping their players, so obviously there will be disappointment if one leaves, and somewhat an element of loss.

element of betrayal*
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 07 2012 08:20 GMT
#92
On March 07 2012 17:19 JiYan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:15 Nekovivie wrote:
I dont think we have the full story. These teams put a lot of effort into helping their players, so obviously there will be disappointment if one leaves, and somewhat an element of loss.

element of betrayal*


Better way of putting it, thanks
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
pookadin
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia422 Posts
March 07 2012 08:20 GMT
#93
A little integrity wouldn't have gone astray from Dragon...

If Dragon was under some kind of contract/agreement to represent Slayers for a certain amount of time and then asked Jessica to be released as he no longer wanted to go pro with his sc2 career and she was decent enough to release him under these pretenses then she has every right to be angry.

However, I don't think Jessica should be taking her rage to an online venue for all to see - that smacks of no professionalism.
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GatorGar
Profile Joined December 2011
Somalia77 Posts
March 07 2012 08:20 GMT
#94
Poll: Is Dragon actually pretty shady and we went too hard on Katu?

Yes. Dragon is the shademeister; re-instate Katu! (33)
 
62%

No. Katu is still wrong! Dragon is not a cheating terd! (20)
 
38%

53 total votes

Your vote: Is Dragon actually pretty shady and we went too hard on Katu?

(Vote): Yes. Dragon is the shademeister; re-instate Katu!
(Vote): No. Katu is still wrong! Dragon is not a cheating terd!





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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 09:18:13
March 07 2012 08:20 GMT
#95
Don't really know what's on Dragon's head right now.. either he wanted to join a foreign team to make money and play in tourneys and was too afraid to tell SlayerS he wanted to leave or he actually wanted to focus on his job then decided to go back into pro gaming..

I've been a Dragon fan for a long time and I honestly think he left SlayerS to join a foreign team, after I heard him quit SlayerS, in his twitch information it said he was looking for a new team so I thought it was really bizarre that he would leave a top notch team for a foreign one... I want to believe that he was too ashamed of himself because of his past and want to participate in big tourneys again, but was too afraid to tell his intentions.

We really don't know the full story yet or ever will, but I have to go with Jessica on this one... she feels really betrayed and abandoned because she treated her members like family and just want honesty. She did somewhat over react to this case by taking it public instead of talking it out first, I guess it's the stress and frustration that made her blow up. I feel bad for her, I know the feeling she feels. I love SlayerS since Anaheim, I love their passion and their chemistry. I hope she can overlook this case, always and will be a SlayerS and Dragon fan.
Mmm, what to watch.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
March 07 2012 08:20 GMT
#96
On March 07 2012 17:12 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:09 pdd wrote:
Jessica should calm down.

Dragon's not worth raging over. I really don't think he takes the game as seriously as he should and the biggest risk-bearer in this whole signing is Millenium. It's quite clear that they've only signed him due to his popularity.

He's spent so many months in SlayerS and trolling bronze-leaguers on NA and yet his biggest achievement to date is just his GSL Open Season qualification.

Why bother raging when you have a player who's heart and mind isn't where SlayerS's culture is?

Doesnt take games seriously? he got into slayers its not something u can do without trying really really hard and its a big committment to start progaming, u drop studies u drop work to do this, u cant just decide to be a progamer get into slayers and be like "oh....i guess i wanna work now and drop sc2 progaming" i bet there are hundreds of gamers that are busting their balls out to get on a team like slayers

Except he didn't drop his work to be on SlayerS. Most of the time he was on SlayerS he wasn't even on the A-team, and he barely spent a month in the SlayerS house.

Also he seemed to spend more time trolling the NA server than anything else. Never appeared in any interview mentioning that he helped with practiced while other no-name SlayerS members such as Milz and Lots appeared quite a bit.

The fact that he left SlayerS stating his intention was to continue working (and he knew that this was publicized) just goes further to show that he had decided to stop putting it as a priority.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
March 07 2012 08:21 GMT
#97
On March 07 2012 17:16 cozzE wrote:
How can you guys possibly vilify Jessica for protecting the best interests of her players/team?

I'm actually ashamed on behalf of the dense idiots telling Jessica to 'quiet down'. If she feels she got lied to and betrayed (which she did) why can't she say something to vent her feelings? Maybe some of you accusers should take a second to understand the difference (in cultural context) a man's words can make.. I think it's very different to the one you experience inside your cocoon-like gaming pad.

Because there's no reason that this sort of discussion should be taken to twitter? If she really has a problem with Dragon she should talk to him in private. If she just wants to discredit him and make him look bad then go to twitter, but in that case that's a low blow and very unprofessional.
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
March 07 2012 08:23 GMT
#98
On March 07 2012 17:16 cozzE wrote:
How can you guys possibly vilify Jessica for protecting the best interests of her players/team?

I'm actually ashamed on behalf of the dense idiots telling Jessica to 'quiet down'. If she feels she got lied to and betrayed (which she did) why can't she say something to vent her feelings? Maybe some of you accusers should take a second to understand the difference (in cultural context) a man's words can make.. I think it's very different to the one you experience inside your cocoon-like gaming pad.


What? I think you have it backwards.

On the internet, you get rewarded for being an asshole. Look at Idra, he wouldn't have anywhere near as much attention if he were a well mannered, quiet player. People love him or hate him for his manners, but there's no way to deny that they are good for his career.

In the real world, you have to do business, often with people you actively dislike. It's hard to do business if you start calling people names for little to no reason. She admits that he could have left if he'd asked... so what's the issue? Why even make any sort of statement? I doubt it hurt any potential future relationship between Slayers and Millenium, but even risking that is just dumb when there's absolutely no reason to do it.

Now, it was a little comment and I'm sure it's going to get way more attention than it's due, but it's not like this is the first time Jessica has blown something out of proportion. We're not saying she's a bad person, just that she should perhaps count to 10 before posting in the future.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
March 07 2012 08:24 GMT
#99
I didn't like Dragon from the moment I opened his stream. He gives off a very asshole vibe. However, Jessica is completely overreacting here, and being extremely judgmental. Although unlikely (imo), there's still a chance that Dragon was telling the truth. As a professional representative of SlayerS, it should be Jessica's responsibility to take the high road and assume that Dragon's intentions were pure.
DT-Toss
Profile Joined March 2012
Korea (South)59 Posts
March 07 2012 08:26 GMT
#100
On March 07 2012 17:23 TrickyGilligan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 17:16 cozzE wrote:
How can you guys possibly vilify Jessica for protecting the best interests of her players/team?

I'm actually ashamed on behalf of the dense idiots telling Jessica to 'quiet down'. If she feels she got lied to and betrayed (which she did) why can't she say something to vent her feelings? Maybe some of you accusers should take a second to understand the difference (in cultural context) a man's words can make.. I think it's very different to the one you experience inside your cocoon-like gaming pad.


What? I think you have it backwards.

On the internet, you get rewarded for being an asshole. Look at Idra, he wouldn't have anywhere near as much attention if he were a well mannered, quiet player. People love him or hate him for his manners, but there's no way to deny that they are good for his career.

In the real world, you have to do business, often with people you actively dislike. It's hard to do business if you start calling people names for little to no reason. She admits that he could have left if he'd asked... so what's the issue? Why even make any sort of statement? I doubt it hurt any potential future relationship between Slayers and Millenium, but even risking that is just dumb when there's absolutely no reason to do it.

Now, it was a little comment and I'm sure it's going to get way more attention than it's due, but it's not like this is the first time Jessica has blown something out of proportion. We're not saying she's a bad person, just that she should perhaps count to 10 before posting in the future.


Despite that, he still can't win any BIG tourney. Enuff' said. Tell idra to shuddup, mannered up, move on and learn how to stop QQ about protoss. If you can't beat them, join them.

Asian is better in gaming. Enuff' said.
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