EPTSchool Shooting in Ohio - 3 Dead, 2 Injured - Page 22
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As always, with topics as complex and sensitive as these, please take a minute to think before you post. If this thread is to stay open the following must be avoided: - Disrespect to any of the parties involved (be it the bullies or bullied) The above includes: - Justifying or glorifying death or suicide as deserved - Disregarding or belittling the circumstances that give rise to these situations There's a reason why these discussions are always so sensitive. There are extremes on either side of the discussion that are disrespectful and narrow-minded in their own ways; the best approach is to carefully consider the other side before posting Warnings and bans will be handed out for unreasoned and insensitive statements. | ||
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Leysha
United States22 Posts
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Mouz.Lee
United States43 Posts
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Mouz.Lee
United States43 Posts
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Mouz.Lee
United States43 Posts
User was warned for triple posting rather than using the edit button | ||
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OverTheSeer
Canada22 Posts
Best wishes to them. | ||
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bOneSeven
Romania685 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:09 funkie wrote: it was 3 am, and they were pretty quick to get a hold of us. we can all craft stories, and most of them finds an example...but saying have a gun is worse than not having a gun in case some1 breaks into your house is ..... oh well... I'll let you fill the ______ with the right answer. | ||
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cmgillett
United States335 Posts
maybe the kid was just a crazy idiot | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:40 bOneSeven wrote: we can all craft stories, and most of them finds an example...but saying have a gun is worse than not having a gun in case some1 breaks into your house is ..... oh well... I'll let you fill the ______ with the right answer. You can say I'm making this up, I couldn't care less than a fuck tho. | ||
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bOneSeven
Romania685 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:45 funkie wrote: You can say I'm making this up, I couldn't care less than a fuck tho. I'm saying that whatever you said has an example, so is my story, having an example as well...there are cases which you described, and there are cases where people got saved by having a gun, in which situation they would probably be robbed or whatever if they didn't. It' riskier to not have a gun. | ||
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Mouz.Lee
United States43 Posts
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Mouz.Lee
United States43 Posts
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:58 Mouz.Lee wrote: why was i warned for a something that is a fact. no1 knows what the details of the investigation and they havent released them yet so all the speculation is useless You'll have received a PM saying why u got warned. | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
Imagine you're an American robber and you know the owners of the house you are robbing are very likely to have a gun, you'll be very much less hesitant in shooting them. Whereas in Europe, when you break into someone's house and you find the owner awake, he's not gonna shoot you. You as a robber know that and thus feel less threatened; you're not gonna overreact and you're not gonna bring a gun in the first place. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On February 29 2012 01:49 bOneSeven wrote: I'm saying that whatever you said has an example, so is my story, having an example as well...there are cases which you described, and there are cases where people got saved by having a gun, in which situation they would probably be robbed or whatever if they didn't. It' riskier to not have a gun. Please provide proof of this other than your biased opinion. | ||
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Laurence
Ireland119 Posts
I'm sorry but that's complete bs I have never heard of something like this happening in the UK in my entire life and yet it seems to happen in the US at least once a year... | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On February 29 2012 02:24 Laurence wrote: Many people who are for gun ownership say "If you want to kill someone, you'll find a gun anyway." I'm sorry but that's complete bs I have never heard of something like this happening in the UK in my entire life and yet it seems to happen in the US at least once a year... It's not "complete bs" but thank you for your blanket statement. Situations like this are the one scenario where I agree that limitations on gun ownership can actually make a difference, simply because it is likely the only way a lot of these teenage shooters are able to to get a firearm. Granted, I don't know how this kid obtained his weapons, but it's usually a safe bet they were in his house somewhere. In all other cases, our "gun culture" trumps any sort of law or regulation on gun ownership. For some reason our founding fathers decided to make the right to bear arms sacred, and the red-necked portion of our population put it up there with freedom of speech and freedom of religion. If you make it difficult to obtain a gun, all it takes are a few less-than-scrupulous store owners to resupply people who really want weapons with illegal firearms. Not to mention it increases the demand for an already very successful black market for weapons. More rigorous gun control would *probably* (but not definitely) help prevent tragedies like this, but for the vast majority of gun-related crime in the U.S., if someone wants a gun, it is not overly difficult for them to acquire one, through legal or illegal channels. | ||
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Befree
695 Posts
I wish you guys wouldn't make these distasteful comments in this thread. You should be ashamed of your ignorant comments toward the parties involved, and the society/country. These are complex issues, please don't be so careless and condescending. | ||
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GARO
United States2255 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On February 29 2012 03:03 Befree wrote: This is so sad to hear. I saw the death count is now up to 2 now. I hope we can at least take some knowledge out of this, and better help our youth in the future. I wish you guys wouldn't make these distasteful comments in this thread. You should be ashamed of your ignorant comments toward the parties involved, and the society/country. These are complex issues, please don't be so careless and condescending. Better help for our youth is indeed the answer, but I hope you're not making this post based on the assumption that the kid was bullied into committing these crimes. These kids didn't even go to the same school, and by all accounts this was a jealousy-based shooting by an unhinged youth with a vengeance problem. | ||
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NoSlack
United States112 Posts
I just watch a story on CNN and surprisingly their "expert" is blaming the parents as well for this. I'd have expected CNN to blame republicans and gun control laws. No matter the pressure a child should never consider doing what this kid did. All teenagers do crazy stuff, I know I did, but damn... I said it 10 pages ago and I'll say it again for those that missed it. There are no bad children, only bad parents. | ||
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