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xOAngel
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
February 10 2012 13:12 GMT
#1
During Blizzard's Q4 conference call they basically stated they don't plan on releasing HOTS until 2013 at the earliest. As quoted from the call,

"The company's first quarter 2012 outlook does not incorporate a new release from Blizzard Entertainment, but its calendar year 2012 outlook anticipates two releases from Blizzard Entertainment".

These two anticipated releases would be Diablo III and Mists of Pandaria for WoW, down from the three anticipated releases mentioned in their last conference call. Full link here: http://investor.activision.com/results.cfm

What are peoples thoughts about this? A year is a long time to wait for this and hopefully that means they have plenty of time to integrate features and make BNet 2.0 less bad.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 10 2012 13:14 GMT
#2
Actually I think Diablo 3 is the one delayed to 2013.

They recently said they were redesigning the entire skill system for Diablo 3.
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
February 10 2012 13:15 GMT
#3
I bet its diablo that is delayed as well.... in all honesty, I wouldnt be surprised if they both got delayed to 2013. It's just a trend with many video games these days, especially ones from Blizz.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
February 10 2012 13:15 GMT
#4
First of all this is no confirmation it is still speculation, also I'm sure they talked about atleast two release from blizz.

If it's true I'm quiet happy with it, I hope that means they redesing some of those terrible units they showed at blizzcon (especially the new protoss units are just terrible).
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
February 10 2012 13:16 GMT
#5
There's a thread to discuss the conference call already. No need to open another one.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45399 Posts
February 10 2012 13:17 GMT
#6
Oh snap... well, can we please get an exact, direct quote as to which game (HotS or D3) is definitely delayed and which one may still come out in 2012?
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riddi
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 13:18:22
February 10 2012 13:17 GMT
#7
It will almost certainly be HotS in 2013, not Diablo 3.

And i guess WoW/Diablo are more important from a business standing, as they regularly earn money from those games (Subscriptions, Real money auction house cut, etc).

Will probably see HotS beta in Q3 or Q4 this year though.

Edit: There is also already a thread discussing the conference call

Deadstrider
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands258 Posts
February 10 2012 13:17 GMT
#8
I think HOTS will come sooner then Mists, tbh.
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
February 10 2012 13:17 GMT
#9
Misleading title, they did not say that.
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
February 10 2012 13:19 GMT
#10
i think i heard on the call they said they will release d3 release info in Q2 this year.
myIRE
Profile Joined November 2008
Belgium229 Posts
February 10 2012 13:20 GMT
#11
I guess blizzard is one of the few companies who can easily delay their products but on the other hand the wait for it becomes unbearable. It has it's positives and it's negatives. Do people like it? I don't think so. But it is better than releasing a halfassed product.
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Manawar
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
February 10 2012 13:22 GMT
#12
Here is Activisions financial presentation from earlier in the week:

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/1689575718x0x541608/d4938540-d45e-4b5b-87a9-f605bd542852/ATVI C4Q11 Slides.pdf

"Diablo 3, targeting Q2 launch"
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
February 10 2012 13:23 GMT
#13
I could see HotS being delayed till 2013. Beta would come in Q3, this way pro's could play the Beta over the off season and, release in Q1 of 2013. Bring out HotS for the new tournament season
KNICK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Germany248 Posts
February 10 2012 13:23 GMT
#14
They stated in the conference call that they were aiming for a Q2 2012 release for Diablo III. Nothing date-wise was mentioned concerning HotS.

Source: http://www.diablofans.com/news/1083-activision-blizzard-q4-conference-call/
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iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
February 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#15
when in its history has blizzard not delayed ANY release? lol
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MakTemplar
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
February 10 2012 13:24 GMT
#16
Long life to the Carriers!!
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xOAngel
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
February 10 2012 13:28 GMT
#17
For people confused about the call... Diablo 3 has been confirmed for this year, aiming for a Q2 release. Of the remaining two titles, Mists of Pandaria will either come out this year or Blizzard will lose millions more WoW players. Anyone who has played WoW before knows it's simply not possible to run the same raid for over a year (which is what would happen if Mists of Pandaria isn't released in Q2/Q3 of this year).

So yes, while they don't specifically say "HOTS won't be out this year" it's very obvious that HOTS is the third wheel here. It could be released in 2012 but as of today they don't anticipate it.
NeMaTo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States50 Posts
February 10 2012 13:30 GMT
#18
3 years to release an expansion? Talk about slow. And to think that some idiots were whining that Blizzard is charging full price for 1/3 of a game because it only had Terran campaign
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
February 10 2012 13:32 GMT
#19
Wait... The release of the full game or the release of the BETA?

Because if it's the full game then I'm happy for the delay since balance is a very important issue.
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Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
February 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#20
So we have to wait that long until they fix the Zergs? Alright.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
February 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#21
Stop posting "Facts" when they are not. They stated the following. "It may be out tomorrow or 2013". It basically means when it is ready.
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DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
February 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#22
like it
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
February 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#23
WHy you all rush to HotS? This game exist year and a half. Same way you will rewuest LotV. Let the game evolves, there is plenty unresearched strategies so far.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 10 2012 13:37 GMT
#24
misleading title
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
February 10 2012 13:39 GMT
#25
silly to assume anything based on what they say since... they never give release dates. that said 2013 is probably close to the truth unless they do the beta sometime in the next few months
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DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
February 10 2012 13:40 GMT
#26
..nothing is proven at this point. Ban OP.
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decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
February 10 2012 13:42 GMT
#27
Whatever it means I hope they take as much time as they need to make HotS a better game than this is.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 10 2012 13:42 GMT
#28
On February 10 2012 22:33 Gackt_ wrote:
So we have to wait that long until they fix the Zergs? Alright.


And bnet 2.0? What happened to one expansion per 18 months?
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Fusa
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada148 Posts
February 10 2012 13:48 GMT
#29
On February 10 2012 22:33 Gackt_ wrote:
So we have to wait that long until they fix the Zergs? Alright.



^ true story
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
February 10 2012 13:50 GMT
#30
Id be happy if it came out 2013. Gives them enough time to think about better units than those crappy ones they presented (not all of them were crappy, but there were quite a few that were designwise not thought through for 100%)
Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
February 10 2012 13:50 GMT
#31
I thought they cancelled blizzcon so they had more resources to put towards getting all three out??
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
February 10 2012 13:51 GMT
#32
I'm somewhat fine with HotS 2013 - D3 will be enough to play till HotS (and there's also DotA2, a yet finally improved Mappool, ...)
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PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
February 10 2012 13:51 GMT
#33
fuck i already expected the beta
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AKspartan
Profile Joined January 2011
United States126 Posts
February 10 2012 13:52 GMT
#34
It does seem to be a long time to spend on an expansion that isn't changing things around too much. Imagine if there were no campaign and the dev team spent all this time just working on multiplayer and the bnet interface...
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
February 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#35
D3 got delayed not HOTS
Got that.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
February 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#36
The title of this thread made me scared, don't write it as a fact!

Although, you might be right.
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Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 13:53:56
February 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#37
SC2 BETA was from March - July. If they plan on releasing it next year, expect a beta in like June at the earliest.

I do hope they release this year tho
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
February 10 2012 13:54 GMT
#38
Misleading title. Should at least have put a question mark on the end.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#39
The only disconcerting thing is that they won't commit to what game is being released in 2012, if any of them. For all we know it could be the great Blizzard DOTA coming out in 2012 alongside Diablo 3. The other alternative is that it's like some sort of internal race, whichever team finishes their expansion first gets it out the door in 2012, but what if neither do (which is more than likely considering how slow Blizzard is)

Neither seem particularly far along if they can't say what game is coming out this year along with D3
xOAngel
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
February 10 2012 14:00 GMT
#40
On February 10 2012 22:55 floor exercise wrote:
The only disconcerting thing is that they won't commit to what game is being released in 2012, if any of them. For all we know it could be the great Blizzard DOTA coming out in 2012 alongside Diablo 3. The other alternative is that it's like some sort of internal race, whichever team finishes their expansion first gets it out the door in 2012, but what if neither do (which is more than likely considering how slow Blizzard is)

Neither seem particularly far along if they can't say what game is coming out this year along with D3


Well, they sorta have. I don't think they would count Blizzard DOTA as a game so that leaves HOTS and MOP. WoW is already dying at a noticeable rate due to lack of content. Even if MOP is unfinished they still HAVE to release it within the next six months. There's just no way around it... people will not be content raiding Deathwing for another year, and Blizzard has stated 100% there will be no more content in Cataclysm.

That alone guarantees MOP will be out this year. As far as priority goes HOTS is last on the list. Diablo 3 will sell millions of copiest and MOP will sell millions of copies plus slow or halt the dying of WoW. HOTS will have the worst sales of the three by far and there's no way investors would allow Blizzard to push that out before the other two titles.

While it COULD be released this year I have never known Blizzard to release a game early, so when they say they don't anticipate it this year I can't bring myself to believe it will exceed their expectations as far as a release goes.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
February 10 2012 14:03 GMT
#41
What a terribly misleading title, this kind of shit shouldn't be allowed here.
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XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 14:03:54
February 10 2012 14:03 GMT
#42
The full HOTS release will most likely be in 2013, but the Beta should come out in late 2012 or so, I can't imagine they'd wait a whole 'nother year before even the Beta is released.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45399 Posts
February 10 2012 14:11 GMT
#43
On February 10 2012 23:03 XenoX101 wrote:
The full HOTS release will most likely be in 2013, but the Beta should come out in late 2012 or so, I can't imagine they'd wait a whole 'nother year before even the Beta is released.


I'd imagine it'd be at least something like this... from a marketing perspective, it would be nice for the release or reservations to come out for the holiday season, no?

Although, to be frank, Blizzard doesn't half-ass games in order to rush and push forwards release dates. I'm willing to wait a little more for a more solid game, if they're consistently working on it. I'm not going anywhere
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
February 10 2012 14:13 GMT
#44
This isn't really a bad thing.
If they would release HOTS right in the middle of the tournament season it would screw up a lot of things.
Releasing it around X-mas would be best.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 14:15:20
February 10 2012 14:15 GMT
#45
Wish it wasn't a whole year to release HotS, really want it out now.
Also, I'm reading D3 coming out in Q2
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AxUU
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Finland162 Posts
February 10 2012 14:15 GMT
#46
:< I was anxiously waiting for HotS full release for this year.
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LITTLEHEAD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
February 10 2012 14:15 GMT
#47
Diablo 3 has already been said to be a Q2 release, and I would assume HOTS comes before MOP, but nothing has been mentioned about this from what i know of.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 14:17:44
February 10 2012 14:17 GMT
#48
On February 10 2012 22:14 Zzoram wrote:
They recently said they were redesigning the entire skill system for Diablo 3.


Source? I really hope that is true because I actually do not like Diablo 3 at the moment despite spending hundreds (maybe thousands) of hours on Diablo 2. The game BADLY needs skill trees.
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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
February 10 2012 14:19 GMT
#49
Makes sense if you think about that Blizzard just announced a year long cup, to release the game just as it finishes
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10866 Posts
February 10 2012 14:19 GMT
#50
Good... The multiplayer ideas shown were all terrible...
zelgadissan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 14:32:57
February 10 2012 14:22 GMT
#51
On February 10 2012 23:17 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 22:14 Zzoram wrote:
They recently said they were redesigning the entire skill system forDiablo 3.


Source?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4325959/Systems_Changes-1_19_2012#blog

Key quote (paragraph 2):
"In addition we’re working on major changes to the skill and rune systems that we’re not ready to talk about, but I promise you we can’t possibly ship without a finished skill and rune system. "

EDIT: this thread really needs to have title changed or closed or something, it's speculative information at best.
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xOAngel
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
February 10 2012 14:24 GMT
#52
On February 10 2012 23:15 LITTLEHEAD wrote:
Diablo 3 has already been said to be a Q2 release, and I would assume HOTS comes before MOP, but nothing has been mentioned about this from what i know of.


What on earth makes you believe HOTS would take priority over MOP? Blizzard is currently losing $2,250,000 per month due to lost WoW subs and that amount will increase until MOP is released. Meanwhile Blizzard is losing nothing by delaying HOTS. That's just the current situation... not even accounting for the fact that MOP will sell ten times as many copies as HOTS does.
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
February 10 2012 14:25 GMT
#53
Good. Maybe they will use this time to redesign some of the new units/changes, some of them are just awful
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 14:28:13
February 10 2012 14:27 GMT
#54
misleading title, PLEASE CHANGE! This is not what came out of the conference call, it was not confirmed.
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SunTzuEU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden221 Posts
February 10 2012 14:27 GMT
#55
What an unecessary drama thread, it should at the very least have a question mark in the title. This is just pure speculations on your part, backed up by no facts.

It may aswell be WoW expo or Diablo 3 that is delayed.
Indolent
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland137 Posts
February 10 2012 14:28 GMT
#56
I don't mind if HotS will be released in 2013, but beta stage just HAS TO start in this year.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 14:31:23
February 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#57
lol its like they know sc2 is gona die like wc3 and they want to delay it as much as possible lol.

I dissapoint btw.
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xOAngel
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
February 10 2012 14:31 GMT
#58
I don't understand why there are so many illiterate people posting in this thread. Like, I understand you want HOTS now but it's dumb to get so angry and go into denial mode over this.

Fact: Diablo III slated for Q2 release
Fact: Mists of Pandaria out this year

You guys really need to stop being so delusional and going "oh well maybe d3 won't be out until 2013, not hots!" I mean come on now :/
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
February 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#59
Title is not misleading at all, reading comprehension for the win. D3 = 2012 Q2, MoP = 2012 Q4, HotS = 2013...
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
February 10 2012 14:40 GMT
#60
On February 10 2012 22:15 CaptainCrush wrote:
I bet its diablo that is delayed as well.... in all honesty, I wouldnt be surprised if they both got delayed to 2013. It's just a trend with many video games these days, especially ones from Blizz.

trend is to publish them too early, because theyre losing too much money durcing the developement process.
Have to give Blizz credits to not publish games too early.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 10 2012 14:43 GMT
#61
Lol what a worthless thread, the OP has absolutely no idea whether the 2013 game will be MoP, D3, or HotS. He offered zero evidence for it being HotS.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
February 10 2012 14:45 GMT
#62
You guys are scary. D3 is guaranteed this year. Blizzard has also said a kazillion times that MoP is coming out this year. Powers of deduction a-go-go!
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xOAngel
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
February 10 2012 14:46 GMT
#63
On February 10 2012 23:45 Gescom wrote:
You guys are scary. D3 is guaranteed this year. Blizzard has also said a kazillion times that MoP is coming out this year. Powers of deduction a-go-go!


Yeah. It's depressing the amount of people in this thread that can't read.
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
February 10 2012 14:47 GMT
#64
I'd rather have them delaying HOTS for another year and giving us actual units that the races need instead of the shitty ones ATM.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 10 2012 14:47 GMT
#65
On February 10 2012 23:45 Gescom wrote:
You guys are scary. D3 is guaranteed this year. Blizzard has also said a kazillion times that MoP is coming out this year. Powers of deduction a-go-go!



You trust Blizzard's word on release dates? You must be new to Blizzard games.
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
February 10 2012 14:48 GMT
#66
I wished to have these two expansion as fast as possible. I feel like they holding back units that will complete the races and (hopefully) create a really balanced game so that they can have smt to sell in these expansions. I really think three expansion strategy is affecting sc2 pro scene negatively.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 10 2012 14:49 GMT
#67
Sensasionalist topic much ? Can we stick to facts instead of throwing out wild attention grabbing topics just to get more reads ?
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Tofugrinder
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria899 Posts
February 10 2012 14:49 GMT
#68
I would be totally fine with a hots delay if the reason would be that blizzard themselfes think that a few months more time will make a better product. But somehow I doubt that that's the logic Blizzard.. or to be more realistic Activision - is taking
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
February 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#69
Closing this - bad OP.
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