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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
January 20 2012 05:38 GMT
#81
Exasperated: this is more back and forth than DRG vs MMA g7, and every bit as grueling. Tentatively optimistic: Let's hope we all "walk away winners!"

With mildy growing interest: actually, talking like an Elcor sounds pretty fun. Peaceful: peace.
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
January 20 2012 05:38 GMT
#82
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


I don't see how the few minor details he cleaned up completely make his previous post as something to disregard. One point was essentially not using the word desperate -_- . Another was obviously speculation in the original if you read into the post well enough (the camera part), but people were taking it to be fact. The last is just clearing up the extent of how malicious people make Lee out to be.

The ultimate point of his post is still relevant. Lee jacked players from oGs, later publicly causes drama and accuses teams of jacking his players.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
January 20 2012 05:39 GMT
#83
zZzZzZz who cares what was said or done. Here are the facts:

Coach Lee took FD and Tester out from under the noses of oGs whether it was legal or not. Coach Lee has now been in multiple controversies with EG for puma and fnatic for alive. So its just karma.
JD, need I say more? :D
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
January 20 2012 05:39 GMT
#84
On January 20 2012 14:26 SimDawg wrote:
You know what amazes me is the first thread was extremely condescending toward all the drama in the SC2 scene.

And it was labeled Pot Calling the Kettle Black.

You couldn't ask for more perfect irony.


That is hilarious. Oh well, props to owning up to it......I guess.
whatwhatanut
Profile Joined December 2010
United States195 Posts
January 20 2012 05:40 GMT
#85
On January 20 2012 14:36 Tek_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:35 whatwhatanut wrote:
Rekrul, your journalistic integraty just dropped a bit. You need to publish your articles to your sources first so that they can assure the info is valid, and if it is heresay either don't publish it or claim it as such.


He isn't a journalist, hth


Ok so his posting integraty he posted on the forum but I just felt my original terminology was stronger and more impactful.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:41:24
January 20 2012 05:40 GMT
#86
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


He wasn't wrong, there were just some details to the story that were exaggerated. The story afterwards is still pretty damning to lee, and he's still a massive drama stirring hypocrite.

He both admitted to and apologized for the inaccuracies. Would you like him burned at the stake?
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 20 2012 05:40 GMT
#87
well... lee still sounds like a douchebag
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 20 2012 05:41 GMT
#88
On January 20 2012 14:31 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:29 babylon wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:26 dmnum wrote:
Hopefully this will discourage people to stir up other dramas with hope of getting into the TL awards at the end of 2012.
Only drama I can think of that would be bigger than this is if someone posted a video of NaDa using a bunch of vietnamese kids to make the clothes he sells at his site.

I incidentally did find a video including a clip of NaDa actually working out at the gym.

I'm sorry for the offtopic, but are you fucking kidding me? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100673

Go post it there. NOW.

Had to find the video and then had to find the timestamp again. I'd meant to post it yesterday but I forgot. D:
DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
January 20 2012 05:41 GMT
#89
On January 20 2012 14:36 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:33 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:31 StyLeD wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:29 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


Ammendments didn't actually change anything significant...in the thread that is now deleted Rekrul just changed the bit about the hidden video to "it has been speculated by others that..." or words to that effect

Edit: lol double words


Rekrul should have never lambasted Coach Lee based on something he heard "through the grapevine".


About that one thing, sure. About the Lee poaching OGS players behind Spunky's back and the whole confrontation at the house, he absolutely should have lambasted him.


But when you're lambasting someone about something that can seriously affect his reputation, you better be damn sure you got all your facts right and that its not biased in any way.


...........I'm not saying otherwise. The facts about what went down with Lee poaching the players and Spunky confronting them and Lee remained consistant and other pro-gamers came out in that thread and said that they also knew about it.

Alright I'm done, no more time wasting at work lol
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
January 20 2012 05:41 GMT
#90
Welp, TSL being founded on poaching FD and Tester is still true. Lee is still the real villain here.
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
critique
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States135 Posts
January 20 2012 05:42 GMT
#91
Libelous is really not a word you should toss around lightly :/
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
January 20 2012 05:44 GMT
#92
On January 20 2012 14:38 Oiseaux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


I don't see how the few minor details he cleaned up completely make his previous post as something to disregard. One point was essentially not using the word desperate -_- . Another was obviously speculation in the original if you read into the post well enough (the camera part), but people were taking it to be fact. The last is just clearing up the extent of how malicious people make Lee out to be.

The ultimate point of his post is still relevant. Lee jacked players from oGs, later publicly causes drama and accuses teams of jacking his players.


I agree that the core of his post still stands, but the (wrong) minor details can also be very deadly.

If you were in a maths exam and had "10.3" (wrong answer) written in the final answer box instead of "1.03" (right answer) even though your entire working out on the same pieces of paper pointed to the answer being "1.03", you're still gonna be marked wrong.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
January 20 2012 05:45 GMT
#93
If Artosis is the Esports moss that shows what direction its going, Rekrul is the Esports mushroom patch that shows you were all the dead bodies are buried.



!!!rekruL og oG
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 20 2012 05:46 GMT
#94
On January 20 2012 14:31 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:29 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


Ammendments didn't actually change anything significant...in the thread that is now deleted Rekrul just changed the bit about the hidden video to "it has been speculated by others that..." or words to that effect

Edit: lol double words


Rekrul should have never lambasted Coach Lee based on something he heard "through the grapevine".

it's like you never even read his post lol
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 20 2012 05:46 GMT
#95
On January 20 2012 14:37 whatwhatanut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:33 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:31 StyLeD wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:29 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


Ammendments didn't actually change anything significant...in the thread that is now deleted Rekrul just changed the bit about the hidden video to "it has been speculated by others that..." or words to that effect

Edit: lol double words


Rekrul should have never lambasted Coach Lee based on something he heard "through the grapevine".


About that one thing, sure. About the Lee poaching OGS players behind Spunky's back and the whole confrontation at the house, he absolutely should have lambasted him.


I don't nessecarily agree with what Lee did but I can't say that he did anything legally or ethically wrong. OGS had an "open" house and no player contracts from my take. So he just took advantage of the oppurtunity as did the players. No blame should fall squarely on his shoulders as ultimately the players decided to join TSL, no one forced them.

legally wrong no ethically wrong yes.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
January 20 2012 05:46 GMT
#96
On January 20 2012 14:45 Antisocialmunky wrote:
If Artosis is the Esports moss that shows what direction its going, Rekrul is the Esports mushroom patch that shows you were all the dead bodies are buried.



!!!rekruL og oG


Ha. Great analogy. Rekrul, we still love you around these parts!
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46546 Posts
January 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#97
Thank you for clearing things up, Rekrul ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
January 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#98
{88}lurker fighting
yaya
ICCup.Tesla
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States841 Posts
January 20 2012 05:48 GMT
#99
Good idea with the clarification ^^ Thanks for keeping us all informed.
@DjTesla ~ CEO of GoSc, GoLoL, GoD3 & GoSmite ~ @The_GoSc ~ @TheGoLoL ~ The greatest glory of man, is not in never falling, but in rising after each time he has fallen.
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
January 20 2012 05:48 GMT
#100
On January 20 2012 14:41 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:36 Biane wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:33 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:31 StyLeD wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:29 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote:
You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.


Ammendments didn't actually change anything significant...in the thread that is now deleted Rekrul just changed the bit about the hidden video to "it has been speculated by others that..." or words to that effect

Edit: lol double words


Rekrul should have never lambasted Coach Lee based on something he heard "through the grapevine".


About that one thing, sure. About the Lee poaching OGS players behind Spunky's back and the whole confrontation at the house, he absolutely should have lambasted him.


But when you're lambasting someone about something that can seriously affect his reputation, you better be damn sure you got all your facts right and that its not biased in any way.


...........I'm not saying otherwise. The facts about what went down with Lee poaching the players and Spunky confronting them and Lee remained consistant and other pro-gamers came out in that thread and said that they also knew about it.

Alright I'm done, no more time wasting at work lol


..........I'm not saying otherwise too. I'm not questioning the core of his message, but the fact whether he should have posted what he posted with information he heard "through the grapevine". Straw man arguments isn't the way to go here.
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