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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
January 20 2012 05:16 GMT
#41
On January 20 2012 14:14 moonmeh wrote:
Rekrul could you please confirm what monster said here is legit? (On the playXP comments)
While I translated what he wrote, a lot of is big stuff and I want to make sure you actually know him and vouch for him

Translation Source

Rekrul is my friend who can speak Korean well. In Korea with Elky he was a pro-gamer and now he is a poker player. The four, Dan, Elky, Giyom and Steven King, they are the same case and is very fiend and also friendly with spunky. He’s not a reporter but has been active on TL since BW (playXP mistakenly wrote Rekrul as reporter)

Previously during the FD/Tester team change where both players criticized the Coach and then apologized and disappeared Coach Lee blackmailed both FD and Tester and the ST coach so that the apology statement came up.
Since FD and Tester were soon going to the army we were like let’s spill it all but because we thought about the SC2 scene as a whole FD and Tester wrote the apology and became the bad guys on the outside. It’s nothing big in some way but these two enjoyed sports betting websites and were blackmailed by the fact that did. If they didn’t raise the apology article, he (coach Lee) threatned to post it on an article. Seeing as SC2 is small and struggling, having two best players at the time being involved in such a scene would make it even harder so we accepted and posted the fake apology. This FD and Tester lied that Coach Lee did the job of the coach properly. Basically anything after the apology can be counted as lies and the previous information were all true. Also when Puma was changing team, he was congratulating him until the last day he stayed in the team house and the posted the article online the very next day. That is Coach Lee. He really often does things that cannot be comprehended. He must be mentally retarded.

Not sure about the players after, I quite paying attention to SC2. When Polt left Prime he got offers from IM, StarTale and TSL. I called him later saying don’t go to TSL no matter what but he replied back saying he got the contract on that exact day.

Additionally from what I remember when Coach Lee met with FD, Tester and the StarTale coach (Killer and Clide was there as well) one of the people from TSL was recording.

sorry if the translation seems to be off I'm tired as fuck

Translation seems about right, or at least covers the main points
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 20 2012 05:17 GMT
#42
On January 20 2012 14:14 moonmeh wrote:
Rekrul could you please confirm what monster said here is legit? (On the playXP comments)
While I translated what he wrote, a lot of is big stuff and I want to make sure you actually know him and vouch for him

Translation Source

Rekrul is my friend who can speak Korean well. In Korea with Elky he was a pro-gamer and now he is a poker player. The four, Dan, Elky, Giyom and Steven King, they are the same case and is very fiend and also friendly with spunky. He’s not a reporter but has been active on TL since BW (playXP mistakenly wrote Rekrul as reporter)

Previously during the FD/Tester team change where both players criticized the Coach and then apologized and disappeared Coach Lee blackmailed both FD and Tester and the ST coach so that the apology statement came up.
Since FD and Tester were soon going to the army we were like let’s spill it all but because we thought about the SC2 scene as a whole FD and Tester wrote the apology and became the bad guys on the outside. It’s nothing big in some way but these two enjoyed sports betting websites and were blackmailed by the fact that did. If they didn’t raise the apology article, he (coach Lee) threatned to post it on an article. Seeing as SC2 is small and struggling, having two best players at the time being involved in such a scene would make it even harder so we accepted and posted the fake apology. This FD and Tester lied that Coach Lee did the job of the coach properly. Basically anything after the apology can be counted as lies and the previous information were all true. Also when Puma was changing team, he was congratulating him until the last day he stayed in the team house and the posted the article online the very next day. That is Coach Lee. He really often does things that cannot be comprehended. He must be mentally retarded.

Not sure about the players after, I quite paying attention to SC2. When Polt left Prime he got offers from IM, StarTale and TSL. I called him later saying don’t go to TSL no matter what but he replied back saying he got the contract on that exact day.

Additionally from what I remember when Coach Lee met with FD, Tester and the StarTale coach (Killer and Clide was there as well) one of the people from TSL was recording.

sorry if the translation seems to be off I'm tired as fuck


All of this is very inaccurate and I do know this guy IRL.
why so 진지해?
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
January 20 2012 05:18 GMT
#43
On January 20 2012 13:50 tree.hugger wrote:
Pretty sure this doesn't change any part of the story, except the fact that Coach Lee also isn't a mad scientist.


well put. he's just a normal guilt tripper, not also the hitler of esports now.
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XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
January 20 2012 05:18 GMT
#44
I remember some guy in the other thread posted something about Lee owning a PC bang or something and they were confused as to how it was originally claimed that Lee was desperate to stay somewhere because he was poor or homeless or something.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
moonmeh
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)105 Posts
January 20 2012 05:19 GMT
#45
On January 20 2012 14:17 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:14 moonmeh wrote:
Rekrul could you please confirm what monster said here is legit? (On the playXP comments)
While I translated what he wrote, a lot of is big stuff and I want to make sure you actually know him and vouch for him

Translation Source

Rekrul is my friend who can speak Korean well. In Korea with Elky he was a pro-gamer and now he is a poker player. The four, Dan, Elky, Giyom and Steven King, they are the same case and is very fiend and also friendly with spunky. He’s not a reporter but has been active on TL since BW (playXP mistakenly wrote Rekrul as reporter)

Previously during the FD/Tester team change where both players criticized the Coach and then apologized and disappeared Coach Lee blackmailed both FD and Tester and the ST coach so that the apology statement came up.
Since FD and Tester were soon going to the army we were like let’s spill it all but because we thought about the SC2 scene as a whole FD and Tester wrote the apology and became the bad guys on the outside. It’s nothing big in some way but these two enjoyed sports betting websites and were blackmailed by the fact that did. If they didn’t raise the apology article, he (coach Lee) threatned to post it on an article. Seeing as SC2 is small and struggling, having two best players at the time being involved in such a scene would make it even harder so we accepted and posted the fake apology. This FD and Tester lied that Coach Lee did the job of the coach properly. Basically anything after the apology can be counted as lies and the previous information were all true. Also when Puma was changing team, he was congratulating him until the last day he stayed in the team house and the posted the article online the very next day. That is Coach Lee. He really often does things that cannot be comprehended. He must be mentally retarded.

Not sure about the players after, I quite paying attention to SC2. When Polt left Prime he got offers from IM, StarTale and TSL. I called him later saying don’t go to TSL no matter what but he replied back saying he got the contract on that exact day.

Additionally from what I remember when Coach Lee met with FD, Tester and the StarTale coach (Killer and Clide was there as well) one of the people from TSL was recording.

sorry if the translation seems to be off I'm tired as fuck


All of this is very inaccurate and I do know this guy IRL.



Wait so the whole thing abt FD and Tester being forced to apologize is complete BS?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 20 2012 05:19 GMT
#46
These changes are all rather minor in the grand scheme of things.

The original thread could have just been amended IMO.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 20 2012 05:19 GMT
#47
On January 20 2012 14:19 moonmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:17 Rekrul wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:14 moonmeh wrote:
Rekrul could you please confirm what monster said here is legit? (On the playXP comments)
While I translated what he wrote, a lot of is big stuff and I want to make sure you actually know him and vouch for him

Translation Source

Rekrul is my friend who can speak Korean well. In Korea with Elky he was a pro-gamer and now he is a poker player. The four, Dan, Elky, Giyom and Steven King, they are the same case and is very fiend and also friendly with spunky. He’s not a reporter but has been active on TL since BW (playXP mistakenly wrote Rekrul as reporter)

Previously during the FD/Tester team change where both players criticized the Coach and then apologized and disappeared Coach Lee blackmailed both FD and Tester and the ST coach so that the apology statement came up.
Since FD and Tester were soon going to the army we were like let’s spill it all but because we thought about the SC2 scene as a whole FD and Tester wrote the apology and became the bad guys on the outside. It’s nothing big in some way but these two enjoyed sports betting websites and were blackmailed by the fact that did. If they didn’t raise the apology article, he (coach Lee) threatned to post it on an article. Seeing as SC2 is small and struggling, having two best players at the time being involved in such a scene would make it even harder so we accepted and posted the fake apology. This FD and Tester lied that Coach Lee did the job of the coach properly. Basically anything after the apology can be counted as lies and the previous information were all true. Also when Puma was changing team, he was congratulating him until the last day he stayed in the team house and the posted the article online the very next day. That is Coach Lee. He really often does things that cannot be comprehended. He must be mentally retarded.

Not sure about the players after, I quite paying attention to SC2. When Polt left Prime he got offers from IM, StarTale and TSL. I called him later saying don’t go to TSL no matter what but he replied back saying he got the contract on that exact day.

Additionally from what I remember when Coach Lee met with FD, Tester and the StarTale coach (Killer and Clide was there as well) one of the people from TSL was recording.

sorry if the translation seems to be off I'm tired as fuck


All of this is very inaccurate and I do know this guy IRL.



Wait so the whole thing abt FD and Tester being forced to apologize is complete BS?

Oh damn, all your translation work. TT
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
January 20 2012 05:20 GMT
#48
It seems like threats of a libel/slander lawsuit were at hand.....

hmmm.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
January 20 2012 05:20 GMT
#49
Well thanks for clearing that up. It's really unfortunate though that the previous thread is unavailable. I think some people might have wanted to read it but nevermind
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
January 20 2012 05:20 GMT
#50
I'm still not very fond of Coach Lee.
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LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
January 20 2012 05:21 GMT
#51
isn't it a little confusing to have these corrections without the old thread?
striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
January 20 2012 05:21 GMT
#52
bottom line - mr lee is still a d-bag in his dealings with players, other teams and the community
moonmeh
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:22:46
January 20 2012 05:21 GMT
#53
On January 20 2012 14:19 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:19 moonmeh wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:17 Rekrul wrote:
On January 20 2012 14:14 moonmeh wrote:
Rekrul could you please confirm what monster said here is legit? (On the playXP comments)
While I translated what he wrote, a lot of is big stuff and I want to make sure you actually know him and vouch for him

Translation Source

Rekrul is my friend who can speak Korean well. In Korea with Elky he was a pro-gamer and now he is a poker player. The four, Dan, Elky, Giyom and Steven King, they are the same case and is very fiend and also friendly with spunky. He’s not a reporter but has been active on TL since BW (playXP mistakenly wrote Rekrul as reporter)

Previously during the FD/Tester team change where both players criticized the Coach and then apologized and disappeared Coach Lee blackmailed both FD and Tester and the ST coach so that the apology statement came up.
Since FD and Tester were soon going to the army we were like let’s spill it all but because we thought about the SC2 scene as a whole FD and Tester wrote the apology and became the bad guys on the outside. It’s nothing big in some way but these two enjoyed sports betting websites and were blackmailed by the fact that did. If they didn’t raise the apology article, he (coach Lee) threatned to post it on an article. Seeing as SC2 is small and struggling, having two best players at the time being involved in such a scene would make it even harder so we accepted and posted the fake apology. This FD and Tester lied that Coach Lee did the job of the coach properly. Basically anything after the apology can be counted as lies and the previous information were all true. Also when Puma was changing team, he was congratulating him until the last day he stayed in the team house and the posted the article online the very next day. That is Coach Lee. He really often does things that cannot be comprehended. He must be mentally retarded.

Not sure about the players after, I quite paying attention to SC2. When Polt left Prime he got offers from IM, StarTale and TSL. I called him later saying don’t go to TSL no matter what but he replied back saying he got the contract on that exact day.

Additionally from what I remember when Coach Lee met with FD, Tester and the StarTale coach (Killer and Clide was there as well) one of the people from TSL was recording.

sorry if the translation seems to be off I'm tired as fuck


All of this is very inaccurate and I do know this guy IRL.



Wait so the whole thing abt FD and Tester being forced to apologize is complete BS?

Oh damn, all your translation work. TT


Lmao I don't care, i spend like 15minutes doing it (thus the roughness). But PlayXP is kinda getting active about and it would be hilariously tragic if what he said was inaccurate BS and would like to comment on PlayXP comments to calm the fuck down about it if it is so.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
January 20 2012 05:22 GMT
#54
On January 20 2012 14:05 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 14:00 johnnywup wrote:
that doesnt really change anything imo


Pretty much.


Pretty much 2x.
I don't know if it warranted deleting the thread.. That's what the edit button is for, but I'll take what I get and accept its deletion. With that being said, Rek did the right thing in immediately identifying what he did wrong, explained it to the community, and allowed everyone to make their own choices.
As stated above, and with this new clarification, the story still pretty much remains the same and doesn't give Lee too much credit for what he did as rational.

This should NOT make what Lee did acceptable, and everyone who tries to turn it around on Rek is just blind to the obvious, claiming 2 wrongs makes a right will never be acceptable.

+ Show Spoiler +
Although 3 rights do make a left.
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XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
January 20 2012 05:24 GMT
#55
So was all of what Rekrul claimed originally from Spunkys viewpoint? Before posting the original thread why didn't he approach Spunky to corroborate the rumors or was Spunky being bias ?
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
January 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#56
This does not change my mind at ALL on the situation, thanks for clearing a few things up, but the message is still the eact same, coach lee is a d-bag.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:27:26
January 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#57
The clarifications really change nothing in this case.

The fact that it was more hanging around and not desperation that caused him to be in the oGs residence I think most people had already independently concluded was a bit of hyperbole to show the general demeanor with which he approached Spunky. I think it was clear enough from context that Lee wasn't in so bad a ways as to need to beg for a roof over his head.

The camera thing was already pretty clearly mentioned as hearsay from the players involved, with no claims to the actual truth of the matter. Regardless of whether there were any cameras there, I think there is still a pretty clear picture of how Lee was attempting to handle the situation (trying to create a situation where he can use blackmail, clearly his M.O. at this point).

FD and Tester's situation I think was also pretty clearly illustrated in the original post as a simple business decision on their part. Blackmail or not, it's clear by the end result that they were not happy with their decisions in the end anyways.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 20 2012 05:26 GMT
#58
We need to stop Blast from writing his fanfic about Lee as Tucker-from-FMA!
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:27:28
January 20 2012 05:26 GMT
#59
Hopefully this will discourage people to stir up other dramas with hope of getting into the TL awards at the end of 2012.
Only drama I can think of that would be bigger than this is if someone posted a video of NaDa using a bunch of vietnamese kids to make the clothes he sells at his site.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
January 20 2012 05:26 GMT
#60
You know what amazes me is the first thread was extremely condescending toward all the drama in the SC2 scene.

And it was labeled Pot Calling the Kettle Black.

You couldn't ask for more perfect irony.
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