• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:46
CET 01:46
KST 09:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Soulkey's decision to leave C9 mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How much money terran looses from gas steal?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Darkest Dungeon Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5270 users

Apologies for Incorrect Information

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 22 23 24 Next All
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:10:57
January 20 2012 04:40 GMT
#1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304512

(thread is now deleted)

I have corrected some errors in this thread. I would like to apologize to Coach Lee for stating a few things as if they were fact when they were merely rumors floating around among the Korean Pro's. Even though I feel it is obvious that Lee is completely hypocritical in all his recent dealings with the EG/Puma situation and the Fnatic/Alive situation, in fairness I owe it to him to correct these things that were stated:

1. Lee never actually 'came to oGs desperately' to live there. He did hang out at the oGs Sook-so often during those times though.

2. While the events of that day are accurate with Spunky angrily storming into the new TSL Sook-so trying to get his players back, the stuff with the video cameras was speculation from the people at the Sook-so that day. Spunky never claimed it as a fact to me, I had just heard it through the grapevine.

3. At that time FD/Tester decided to stay with TSL on their own interest. It was actually still in their best interest financially to stay with TSL considering their situation as described in the original thread. Lee wasn't blackmailing them. They just made a stupid decision on their part and when the dust settled they said their apologies to oGs and stayed with TSL.

Once again, sorry Coach Lee for spreading misinformation and causing misunderstanding and possibly harming your reputation.

Edit: having TL delete the entire thread as it is too libelous.
why so 진지해?
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
January 20 2012 04:41 GMT
#2
--- Nuked ---
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 20 2012 04:41 GMT
#3
omg better to del my brain memory
RAGEMOAR The Pope
Profile Joined February 2011
United States216 Posts
January 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#4
Glad this is getting cleared up before more rumors spread.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
January 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#5
Does Lee have something on you as well? JK.

Thanks for clarifying things a bit.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
January 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#6
Thank you for clarification :D
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
xVoiid
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada199 Posts
January 20 2012 04:43 GMT
#7
But.. I had my pitchfork ready..
It ain't over 'till it's over.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 20 2012 04:43 GMT
#8
Well that actually changes the entire tone of the OP.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:39:45
January 20 2012 04:45 GMT
#9
At this point I feel like even with these errors corrected, Coach Lee still comes off as a bad person. It should say a lot that even if those things might not have been true, to have rumors about things as serious as this floating around there's something afoot.

I think the biggest thing needed to learn here is that without cited sources ANYTHING can be untrue/rumor no matter who posts it. (looking at you Chill).

Thanks for being forward with the revised information.

EDIT: I think it is an absolutely terrible decision to delete the thread.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
January 20 2012 04:46 GMT
#10
well, gotta douse my torch now thanks for the clarity though rekrul
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
January 20 2012 04:47 GMT
#11
still not fond of coach lee
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 20 2012 04:50 GMT
#12
Pretty sure this doesn't change any part of the story, except the fact that Coach Lee also isn't a mad scientist.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 20 2012 04:50 GMT
#13
Besides number 1, I remember you stating 2-3 in your previous post (maybe you just implied that it was the case).

I respect you for writing this but you know there is going to be three people in this thread that will say "REKRUL CAN"T BE TRUSTED ANYMORE". Good luck with them.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 20 2012 04:51 GMT
#14
Dude, don't douse it.

Stir it up. Come on.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 20 2012 04:52 GMT
#15
The core of the problem is still clear. Hes a hypocrite and manipulated his way into "convincing" FD and Tester to switch. The corrections don't have the sensationalistic or the James Bond effect but boils down to the same message.

I just hope that everything works out for aLive and Fnatic. If he was on the verge of being offered a fantastic contract, I hope this situation didn't screw him out of it.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
January 20 2012 04:53 GMT
#16
Everything did seem a bit extreme...
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
January 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#17
On January 20 2012 13:43 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Well that actually changes the entire tone of the OP.


Not really, the bit about the video/audio thing was kinda far fetched in the original post, but everything else to do with Lee poaching ogs players and the confrontation hasn't changed. Lee is still a massive dick and a hypocrite in my opinion. Combined with:

- aLive reporting that coach lee has secretly accessed his skype logs which started the whole fanatic drama
- the blackmail and betting story on playxp where Lee threatened to release information that FD/Tester had been betting (illegal in SKorea) unless they apologised in public (not verified but pretty likely at this point, see Milkis' post)
- the metric fuck tonne of players leaving TSL regularly, usually with lots of drama involving Lee

Coach Lee is now in my mind an unbelievably shady charcter in the game and I don't see any progamers joining TSL anytime soon. I think he should resign imo
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#18
Nice clarification, but still doesn't change my opinion of Lee much.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#19
Rekrul you really are a nice guy. Thanks for the clarification <3
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#20
The camera WAS quite extreme
Moderator
1 2 3 4 5 22 23 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Korean StarCraft League #87
CranKy Ducklings109
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
18:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #18
SteadfastSC51
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason118
RuFF_SC2 91
SteadfastSC 51
Vindicta 29
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5371
Rock 16
NaDa 14
Dota 2
monkeys_forever107
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear9
Counter-Strike
fl0m793
taco 433
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox460
C9.Mang0386
Other Games
summit1g8492
tarik_tv4489
ViBE76
minikerr5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV73
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta34
• RyuSc2 26
• EnkiAlexander 23
• mYiSmile112
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 53
• sM.Zik 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3361
Other Games
• Scarra660
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
11h 14m
Big Brain Bouts
16h 14m
Fjant vs SortOf
YoungYakov vs Krystianer
Reynor vs HeRoMaRinE
RSL Revival
1d 9h
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
1d 11h
Platinum Heroes Events
1d 14h
BSL
1d 19h
RSL Revival
2 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
2 days
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.