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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:10:57
January 20 2012 04:40 GMT
#1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304512

(thread is now deleted)

I have corrected some errors in this thread. I would like to apologize to Coach Lee for stating a few things as if they were fact when they were merely rumors floating around among the Korean Pro's. Even though I feel it is obvious that Lee is completely hypocritical in all his recent dealings with the EG/Puma situation and the Fnatic/Alive situation, in fairness I owe it to him to correct these things that were stated:

1. Lee never actually 'came to oGs desperately' to live there. He did hang out at the oGs Sook-so often during those times though.

2. While the events of that day are accurate with Spunky angrily storming into the new TSL Sook-so trying to get his players back, the stuff with the video cameras was speculation from the people at the Sook-so that day. Spunky never claimed it as a fact to me, I had just heard it through the grapevine.

3. At that time FD/Tester decided to stay with TSL on their own interest. It was actually still in their best interest financially to stay with TSL considering their situation as described in the original thread. Lee wasn't blackmailing them. They just made a stupid decision on their part and when the dust settled they said their apologies to oGs and stayed with TSL.

Once again, sorry Coach Lee for spreading misinformation and causing misunderstanding and possibly harming your reputation.

Edit: having TL delete the entire thread as it is too libelous.
why so 진지해?
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
January 20 2012 04:41 GMT
#2
--- Nuked ---
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 20 2012 04:41 GMT
#3
omg better to del my brain memory
RAGEMOAR The Pope
Profile Joined February 2011
United States216 Posts
January 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#4
Glad this is getting cleared up before more rumors spread.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
January 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#5
Does Lee have something on you as well? JK.

Thanks for clarifying things a bit.
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IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
January 20 2012 04:42 GMT
#6
Thank you for clarification :D
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xVoiid
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada199 Posts
January 20 2012 04:43 GMT
#7
But.. I had my pitchfork ready..
It ain't over 'till it's over.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 20 2012 04:43 GMT
#8
Well that actually changes the entire tone of the OP.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 05:39:45
January 20 2012 04:45 GMT
#9
At this point I feel like even with these errors corrected, Coach Lee still comes off as a bad person. It should say a lot that even if those things might not have been true, to have rumors about things as serious as this floating around there's something afoot.

I think the biggest thing needed to learn here is that without cited sources ANYTHING can be untrue/rumor no matter who posts it. (looking at you Chill).

Thanks for being forward with the revised information.

EDIT: I think it is an absolutely terrible decision to delete the thread.
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
January 20 2012 04:46 GMT
#10
well, gotta douse my torch now thanks for the clarity though rekrul
LittleAtari
Profile Joined August 2010
Jordan1090 Posts
January 20 2012 04:47 GMT
#11
still not fond of coach lee
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 20 2012 04:50 GMT
#12
Pretty sure this doesn't change any part of the story, except the fact that Coach Lee also isn't a mad scientist.
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McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
January 20 2012 04:50 GMT
#13
Besides number 1, I remember you stating 2-3 in your previous post (maybe you just implied that it was the case).

I respect you for writing this but you know there is going to be three people in this thread that will say "REKRUL CAN"T BE TRUSTED ANYMORE". Good luck with them.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 20 2012 04:51 GMT
#14
Dude, don't douse it.

Stir it up. Come on.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
January 20 2012 04:52 GMT
#15
The core of the problem is still clear. Hes a hypocrite and manipulated his way into "convincing" FD and Tester to switch. The corrections don't have the sensationalistic or the James Bond effect but boils down to the same message.

I just hope that everything works out for aLive and Fnatic. If he was on the verge of being offered a fantastic contract, I hope this situation didn't screw him out of it.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
January 20 2012 04:53 GMT
#16
Everything did seem a bit extreme...
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DrunkenTemplar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia647 Posts
January 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#17
On January 20 2012 13:43 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Well that actually changes the entire tone of the OP.


Not really, the bit about the video/audio thing was kinda far fetched in the original post, but everything else to do with Lee poaching ogs players and the confrontation hasn't changed. Lee is still a massive dick and a hypocrite in my opinion. Combined with:

- aLive reporting that coach lee has secretly accessed his skype logs which started the whole fanatic drama
- the blackmail and betting story on playxp where Lee threatened to release information that FD/Tester had been betting (illegal in SKorea) unless they apologised in public (not verified but pretty likely at this point, see Milkis' post)
- the metric fuck tonne of players leaving TSL regularly, usually with lots of drama involving Lee

Coach Lee is now in my mind an unbelievably shady charcter in the game and I don't see any progamers joining TSL anytime soon. I think he should resign imo
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#18
Nice clarification, but still doesn't change my opinion of Lee much.
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#19
Rekrul you really are a nice guy. Thanks for the clarification <3
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#20
The camera WAS quite extreme
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