On January 21 2012 02:17 copacetic wrote: how has this gone on for 21 pages? all you guys have no relationship/connection with Coach Lee and the players involved, it has absolutely no affect on your lives at all. Starcraft drama is fun to read about, but you guys are all acting like your 2cents means something.. it doesnt. Move along now unless you have real info about the situation at hand, you guys really shouldnt be posting again and again saying the same shit about "what u think of Coach Lee", you have NO idea who this guy is
We are fans. You should check out how much worse things get in other sports.
He is right tho. If you dont have anything to add to the topic beside your humble opinion, why dont you just it keep to your self ? Ppl most likely wont give a crap besides obvious trolls who try to steer up even more drama and derail the thread. If you have new informations feel free to add them but if all you gonna say is something like "rekrul dropping the knowledge" or "i never changed my view about Lee" chances are, you are just posting for the sake of posting.
Mods should be much strikter regarding these cases but most of them post needless 1 liners too.
On January 21 2012 02:17 copacetic wrote: how has this gone on for 21 pages? all you guys have no relationship/connection with Coach Lee and the players involved, it has absolutely no affect on your lives at all. Starcraft drama is fun to read about, but you guys are all acting like your 2cents means something.. it doesnt. Move along now unless you have real info about the situation at hand, you guys really shouldnt be posting again and again saying the same shit about "what u think of Coach Lee", you have NO idea who this guy is
We are fans. You should check out how much worse things get in other sports.
He is right tho. If you dont have anything to add to the topic beside your humble opinion, why dont you just it keep to your self ? Ppl most likely wont give a crap besides obvious trolls who try to steer up even more drama and derail the thread. If you have new informations feel free to add them but if all you gonna say is something like "rekrul dropping the knowledge" or "i never changed my view about Lee" chances are, you are just posting for the sake of posting.
Mods should be much strikter regarding these cases but most of them post needless 1 liners too.
This thread is more like a conversation than an official news source. Rekrul isn't a journalist, obviously, and none of this may even be true.
On January 21 2012 02:17 copacetic wrote: how has this gone on for 21 pages? all you guys have no relationship/connection with Coach Lee and the players involved, it has absolutely no affect on your lives at all. Starcraft drama is fun to read about, but you guys are all acting like your 2cents means something.. it doesnt. Move along now unless you have real info about the situation at hand, you guys really shouldnt be posting again and again saying the same shit about "what u think of Coach Lee", you have NO idea who this guy is
On January 21 2012 02:17 copacetic wrote: how has this gone on for 21 pages? all you guys have no relationship/connection with Coach Lee and the players involved, it has absolutely no affect on your lives at all. Starcraft drama is fun to read about, but you guys are all acting like your 2cents means something.. it doesnt. Move along now unless you have real info about the situation at hand, you guys really shouldnt be posting again and again saying the same shit about "what u think of Coach Lee", you have NO idea who this guy is
We are fans. You should check out how much worse things get in other sports.
He is right tho. If you dont have anything to add to the topic beside your humble opinion, why dont you just it keep to your self ? Ppl most likely wont give a crap besides obvious trolls who try to steer up even more drama and derail the thread. If you have new informations feel free to add them but if all you gonna say is something like "rekrul dropping the knowledge" or "i never changed my view about Lee" chances are, you are just posting for the sake of posting.
Mods should be much strikter regarding these cases but most of them post needless 1 liners too.
I'm usually all for people who post less often here, but geez, you two are ridiculous. 20ish pages, at 20 posts a page makes a mere 400 posts on this. Versus the tens of thousands of people who post on these forums.
On January 21 2012 02:17 copacetic wrote: how has this gone on for 21 pages? all you guys have no relationship/connection with Coach Lee and the players involved, it has absolutely no affect on your lives at all. Starcraft drama is fun to read about, but you guys are all acting like your 2cents means something.. it doesnt. Move along now unless you have real info about the situation at hand, you guys really shouldnt be posting again and again saying the same shit about "what u think of Coach Lee", you have NO idea who this guy is
We are fans. You should check out how much worse things get in other sports.
He is right tho. If you dont have anything to add to the topic beside your humble opinion, why dont you just it keep to your self ? Ppl most likely wont give a crap besides obvious trolls who try to steer up even more drama and derail the thread. If you have new informations feel free to add them but if all you gonna say is something like "rekrul dropping the knowledge" or "i never changed my view about Lee" chances are, you are just posting for the sake of posting.
Mods should be much strikter regarding these cases but most of them post needless 1 liners too.
This thread is more like a conversation than an official news source. Rekrul isn't a journalist, obviously, and none of this may even be true.
A good time to remember that nobody in Anglosphere eSports are. As far as I know, only Chobopeon majored in Journalism.
On January 21 2012 02:17 copacetic wrote: how has this gone on for 21 pages? all you guys have no relationship/connection with Coach Lee and the players involved, it has absolutely no affect on your lives at all. Starcraft drama is fun to read about, but you guys are all acting like your 2cents means something.. it doesnt. Move along now unless you have real info about the situation at hand, you guys really shouldnt be posting again and again saying the same shit about "what u think of Coach Lee", you have NO idea who this guy is
On January 20 2012 22:10 Utinni wrote: I wish I could type whatever I wanted and get the thread to stay...
Then maybe you should have contributed to this site for 6+ years bringing insider info from korea christ, some people.
I hope everyone doesn't think like that.There is a difference between good information and hearsay. I hope you don't become a reporter.
What? I never said anywhere he was an entirely credible source. Do you have any reading comprehension? I simply said that if you want to be treated with extreme leniency when you fuck up like rekrul, you'd need to have earned it. You're saying oh gee, i should be treated the exact same way as someone who has proved to be a valuable source of progamer gossip and hilarious stories about korean night clubs and such. He was a moderator here, and has earned the right to be treated differently, according to the TL Commandments. What you said was...ridiculously stupid. That you expect the same treatment without actually earning it shows how childish you are. edit: also its hilarious that you say I shouldn't be a reporter, when many of them inflate and put twists on whatever they report.
YES, The reason he gets to post stuff is because he has been contributing forever... and ALL of his contributions are usually valid... This particular thread was all hearsay and caused a lot of drama where there was nothing to back it. It MAY be true and MAY not be... but you can't just post whatever you want and perceive it as true. People will believe you (like most of TL did)
I am implying that it was silly to make that particular post, TL and Rekrul obviously agree since they took it down.
Have a good day.
What you are implying is irrelevant. Whether or not rekrul was right to do what he did is also irrelevant. When i made that post, I made it to respond to only one sentence. "I wish I could type whatever I wanted and get the thread to stay...".
I have corrected some errors in this thread. I would like to apologize to Coach Lee for stating a few things as if they were fact when they were merely rumors floating around among the Korean Pro's. Even though I feel it is obvious that Lee is completely hypocritical in all his recent dealings with the EG/Puma situation and the Fnatic/Alive situation, in fairness I owe it to him to correct these things that were stated:
1. Lee never actually 'came to oGs desperately' to live there. He did hang out at the oGs Sook-so often during those times though.
2. While the events of that day are accurate with Spunky angrily storming into the new TSL Sook-so trying to get his players back, the stuff with the video cameras was speculation from the people at the Sook-so that day. Spunky never claimed it as a fact to me, I had just heard it through the grapevine.
3. At that time FD/Tester decided to stay with TSL on their own interest. It was actually still in their best interest financially to stay with TSL considering their situation as described in the original thread. Lee wasn't blackmailing them. They just made a stupid decision on their part and when the dust settled they said their apologies to oGs and stayed with TSL.
Once again, sorry Coach Lee for spreading misinformation and causing misunderstanding and possibly harming your reputation.
Edit: having TL delete the entire thread as it is too libelous.
Rekrul,
Just WOW, floating rumors but told them like you witnessed everything. Only life is this easy. Making all the accusations of someone, ruining his reputation, and calling him out on something that never happened... but next day one apology in the tread makes it all go away.
Both Your orignial post and your apology are translated and posted on PlayXP (Korean SC2 community site). And Koreans seem to be apalled and upset with your haste and thoughtless accusations.
2 things I don't feel right about:
1. When someone make an accusation like rekrul- you better have all of your facts, not what you heard from your friends, or "floating rumors" should not warrant an accusation of someone. And one apology on the very next day should not get him off the hook after he made all these fictional/ false accusations about someone.
2. so far, TL commmutiny seems to "overly" kind and generous about this- "thanks for the apology, you made it all clear to me now." .... come on. I know rekrul has been a credible source for a long time but this time he pulled this out of his ass. Can't imagine if the community would react the same way if it was Milkis or someone else.
Exactly my thoughts. I was wondering the whole time why almost noone was at least slightly critical about Rekruls behaviour. What basically happened is that an important person just shitted all over someone else with only hear-say-"facts". This is just insulting towards Coach Lee. And it's all done because he apologized? lol...
That's not true. A lot were critical and skeptical of Rekrul's info, but they were mocked by others saying lol noob, don't know bw history and were warned and banned by mods saying Rekrul is never wrong.
ya i didnt believe everything Rekrul posted. I was Bashed for not sideing with him because he is "rekrul". He NEVER post anything that isnt 100% true. IF he posts it, thats what happend end of story, dont even try to say otherwise or we will stone you to death.
[QUOTE]On January 20 2012 14:36 Biane wrote: [QUOTE]On January 20 2012 14:33 DrunkenTemplar wrote: [QUOTE]On January 20 2012 14:31 StyLeD wrote: [QUOTE]On January 20 2012 14:29 DrunkenTemplar wrote: [QUOTE]On January 20 2012 14:27 Ruscour wrote: You were so goddamn aggressive in your last post and you went as far as you could to shit on Coach Lee, then when it turns out you're wrong everything's fine? Old boys club around here I guess.[/QUOTE]
Ammendments didn't actually change anything significant...in the thread that is now deleted Rekrul just changed the bit about the hidden video to "it has been speculated by others that..." or words to that effect
Edit: lol double words [/QUOTE]
Rekrul should have never lambasted Coach Lee based on something he heard "through the grapevine". [/QUOTE]
About that one thing, sure. About the Lee poaching OGS players behind Spunky's back and the whole confrontation at the house, he absolutely should have lambasted him.[/QUOTE]
On January 21 2012 00:39 Fyrewolf wrote: Too many noobies around in these threads that just don't understand the great Rekrul..... sigh. At least all of those retractions are cosmetic changes only, hopefully that will help the thread not to flare up so poorly again.
Pot calling the kettle black? But I guess you were a long-time lurker.
Indeed, I lurked TL for what feels like forever before I actually took the time to join. I've played Starcraft since comsat cost 75 energy and have lurked since about mid 2003, yet despite that didn't join until just before you did lol
On January 20 2012 22:10 Utinni wrote: I wish I could type whatever I wanted and get the thread to stay...
Then maybe you should have contributed to this site for 6+ years bringing insider info from korea christ, some people.
I hope everyone doesn't think like that.There is a difference between good information and hearsay. I hope you don't become a reporter.
What? I never said anywhere he was an entirely credible source. Do you have any reading comprehension? I simply said that if you want to be treated with extreme leniency when you fuck up like rekrul, you'd need to have earned it. You're saying oh gee, i should be treated the exact same way as someone who has proved to be a valuable source of progamer gossip and hilarious stories about korean night clubs and such. He was a moderator here, and has earned the right to be treated differently, according to the TL Commandments. What you said was...ridiculously stupid. That you expect the same treatment without actually earning it shows how childish you are. edit: also its hilarious that you say I shouldn't be a reporter, when many of them inflate and put twists on whatever they report.
YES, The reason he gets to post stuff is because he has been contributing forever... and ALL of his contributions are usually valid... This particular thread was all hearsay and caused a lot of drama where there was nothing to back it. It MAY be true and MAY not be... but you can't just post whatever you want and perceive it as true. People will believe you (like most of TL did)
I am implying that it was silly to make that particular post, TL and Rekrul obviously agree since they took it down.
Have a good day.
What you are implying is irrelevant. Whether or not rekrul was right to do what he did is also irrelevant. When i made that post, I made it to respond to only one sentence. "I wish I could type whatever I wanted and get the thread to stay...".
You took things in a literal context while I was mocking his ability to write anything he wants as a thread even if it is against the rules and not proven.
Interesting. I remember a certain mod making a header at the top of the old thread saying something like "Rekrul's word is unbiased fact", and someone even got banned for saying it was wrong for that to be there. Very interesting.
On January 21 2012 06:31 BasilForSkin wrote: Interesting. I remember a certain mod making a header at the top of the old thread saying something like "Rekrul's word is unbiased fact", and someone even got banned for saying it was wrong for that to be there. Very interesting.
On January 20 2012 20:06 Plexa wrote: If anyone has an issue with any of the bans issued please PM me and I'll look into it.
It's just pretty ridiculous to post a thread like Rekrul did with such flimsy certainty that he's apologizing for it so soon afterwards. What the fuck was he thinking? Honestly, it seems to me like a lot of it was trashing on people because he "knew better" than them. Why else would you start a post like that with such SC2 trollbait.
Once you throw in all the warnings and bans for people not worshipping his shit talk, it's just an embarrassing event.
On January 21 2012 06:31 BasilForSkin wrote: Interesting. I remember a certain mod making a header at the top of the old thread saying something like "Rekrul's word is unbiased fact", and someone even got banned for saying it was wrong for that to be there. Very interesting.
Basically, instead of acting snide, if you really care about revoking any of the bans do something about it.
I don't remember who got banned exactly and the thread is deleted anyway. That certain mod knows who he banned and should probably fix it, unless he feels that the bans were justified for some other reasons.
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