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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
Providence was in 2011. | ||
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LeopoldStotch
United States158 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:02 Split. wrote: Does anybody know if there was a reason they didn't regame? I mean they weren't exactly behind in schedule after the probe rush... so if they wanted a serious game why didn't they tell him and let the players play again? GOM can't be that narrow minded to say a regame is impossible If a player takes his hand off the keyboard and probe rushes, chances are he's not going to want to regame. | ||
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Atlantik
Germany17 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
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dp
United States234 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Your analogy is still faulty. Naniwa always plays to win tournaments, and he doesn't care about entertaining audiences. That's the way he is. If he loses, he wants to move on. He doesn't care about pleasing the crowd. He doesn't have the greatest personality (which clearly hurts him in situations like this, as Huk wouldn't have been punished in an identical situation), but he cares about success. The point is that what Naniwa finds to be meaningless at the time is not relevant. He is there to do a job, whether he wants to or not doesn't matter. Whether the outcome matters is irrelavant. If I go to work today and no customers come in, my boss still has to pay he. He can't decide not to. Likewise if I go in tomorrow and don't work while there are customers there, he has the right to fire me. This is how the world works. His personal view on the situation at the time doesn't matter. | ||
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Brandish
United States339 Posts
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Pirat6662001
Russian Federation949 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:58 zala2023 wrote: sadly they can naniwa is just one player, gomtv is the one making the calls what's naniwa going to do huh? Hopefully learn a lesson and always remember that people are paying him to entertain/play sc2, not to just be in it for himself. He is not banned from future GSL. | ||
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Skyreaper
70 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:53 baoluvboa wrote: Misunderstanding with MLG and all the sources came from the MLG page and that tweet meant that Naniwa was the highest seed for the invite but he blew it. So there are still people like you who really understand the situation. I hope others realize that they are misunderstanding. | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
Mr.Chae calling Naniwa "amateur prize money hunter" for sure made me lose respect for GOM, even if Naniwa did something wrong starting to call him words like that is just plain wrong... | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
And the spot would've been for a 2012 tournament so your point is? | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:02 WigglingSquid wrote: Did Mr. Chae actually call Naniwa an "amateur money prize hunter", or was that a coloured translation for emphasis' sake? Im pretty sure thats what he called him. At least that is was have been written everywhere. | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:04 Arceus wrote: Yes I think you deserve a ban. Please be thankful to GOM for spreading the love for e-sport. Jesus H. Christ you actually think GOM would be so benefited with like $5 per ticket ? Do you think some thousands ticket sold would be enough to cover the cost for hiring casters, renting houses, setting up streams etc. ? Thats not reasonable in any simple business sense. Sometimes reading post like this make me pretty sad starcraft is a way of life for koreans. they're willing to go the distance to create the best games and hire the best casters, so its pretty stupid that the ones who benefit from all this arent willing to spend a few bucks to keep it going. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
Personally I could care less, I just find the fact that people are defending naniwa to be mindblowing. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:01 Giriath wrote: In a court of law a rule on a contract like the one GomTV used to remove NaNiWa's rights to play in Code S would get laughed at, and then GomTV would get sued. You can't have a rule that literally means players can't play a game outside the preferences of the GomTV management, and then not state what those preferences are-rules have to be clear and precise in a real, professional business environment. The GomTV management have proved themselves more incompetent with every step they've taken in regards to this incident, and perhaps even illegally. I doubt Quantic would want to go through the hassle of suing them when NaNiWa was not actually banned, but they should, for themselves and the entire community who would be much better off if Mr. Chae and the GomTV management were removed and replaced with people more able to organize and run an event like the GSL. Thats bullshit GOM has every right to argue that Naniwa did this on purpose to insult them / the tournament whatever and plenty there's plenty of evidence in Naniwas past to proof their point. This wasn't the first time for him to act like an asshole there's at least 3 major and some minor incidents they could point to. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
Which is why it did not apply to 2012. You are making the same point as me. | ||
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Wipples
Canada269 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:57 Wicelo wrote: people need to boycott gomtv and gsl, make them bankroot and maybe they'll show more respect for foreign ppl in the future I'm stopping buying season tickets for the future and I call people to do the same lol seriously? They have the utmost respect for foreign players and have never shown otherwise. This may have been a bad call by them, I think it's a little excessive, but it doesn't change the fact that Naniwa was(is) a dick and didnt play out the game and at least pretend to try. I can't imagine his sponsors are too happy with him. IMO they shouldn't have denied him code S, but whatever, if he's as good as people claim he is he'll get back in. No reason to boycott. They've banned Koreans before, broski. | ||
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LeopoldStotch
United States158 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:05 TaKemE wrote: ""Mr.Chae has announced that they made Code S seeds for a professional minded pro-gamer not for an amateur prize money hunter."" Mr.Chae calling Naniwa "amateur prize money hunter" for sure made me lose respect for GOM, even if Naniwa did something wrong starting to call him words like that is just plain wrong... I thought it was funny and deserving, he got a laugh out of me. | ||
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whereyouat
United States65 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:59 Warillions wrote: right on. there all about makin that cash and dont care for the players. we seen it already in BW. not really sure why u'd expect anything different from a country like that anyway. ppl dont really fight for there rights too much there if ya catch my drift. oh and the entire world needs to disconnect themselves from GOM. theres enough foriegn money in viewership to pay for the great koreans to play in our tournies. they wont need GOM for too much longer i hope Such ignorance brings this community down to a stupid level. People don't fight for their rights? Korea over threw dictatorships through the people, and take a look at their riots or their parliament saying they don't fight for what they believe in. Either way there will be people who stop watching, people who say they are going to stop watching but keep watching and people who keep watching. Also of course everything is about making cash. It always has been with SK because they actually have a professional scene and always have had it. | ||
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Master_Blaster
United Kingdom269 Posts
That match had to been canceled. The grudge match we all expected was not when they were both 0-3 and lost all motivation. People brining this lie to themselves that it was an important match. Non of the both players could have bragged about that match even if they played seriously because of the circumstances. And the reasoning is clearly subjective and addressed to Naniwa because the same characteristics apply to idrA, the new invite but we don't see them to have any problem with him at the moment. | ||
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Wallstreet11
133 Posts
On December 15 2011 03:02 Kznn wrote: yes, he used to play and live with them. And they are glad he doesnt anymore. They have nothing to do with him now, and they have all the rights to shit on his head for what hes done. I don't really see your point. Most ignorant poster ever. Please go and hide under your 12023 IQ score | ||
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