On August 21 2011 20:49 hugman wrote: Four Koreans seeded into MLG Pool Play every time is a way bigger deal than two or three foreigners getting a Code-A spot even if it's the same people.
making it through the open bracket of MLG is 10x easier than qualifying for code A
Yet, Alicia loses in the first round of the open bracket to an unknown player. The reason it's more difficult is because you don't know a lot of the players in the open bracket. And the ones you know are generally really solid players.
Are you implying that ToD is unknown? :o
In Starcraft 2 for sure - I was a fan in WC3... but this is a different game...
There's a difference between being unknown and bad. And I think ToD is neither, he just has to work out his PvZ imo
I'm not saying he's bad - his pvp is obviously sick because he beat alicia twice. I'm saying the opposite - there are players that the Koreans don't know about who are actually really solid players. You can't tell me that Alicia was thinking "Oh snap, better practice hard for ToD!!!"
Oh you meant unknown for the Koreans ^_^ Then I definitely agree, I thought you were saying he was unknown in the foreign scene
On August 21 2011 20:49 hugman wrote: Four Koreans seeded into MLG Pool Play every time is a way bigger deal than two or three foreigners getting a Code-A spot even if it's the same people.
making it through the open bracket of MLG is 10x easier than qualifying for code A
Yet, Alicia loses in the first round of the open bracket to an unknown player. The reason it's more difficult is because you don't know a lot of the players in the open bracket. And the ones you know are generally really solid players.
Are you implying that ToD is unknown? :o
In Starcraft 2 for sure - I was a fan in WC3... but this is a different game...
There's a difference between being unknown and bad. And I think ToD is neither, he just has to work out his PvZ imo
I'm not saying he's bad - his pvp is obviously sick because he beat alicia twice. I'm saying the opposite - there are players that the Koreans don't know about who are actually really solid players. You can't tell me that Alicia was thinking "Oh snap, better practice hard for ToD!!!"
Oh you meant unknown for the Koreans ^_^ Then I definitely agree, I thought you were saying he was unknown in the foreign scene
On August 21 2011 20:49 hugman wrote: Four Koreans seeded into MLG Pool Play every time is a way bigger deal than two or three foreigners getting a Code-A spot even if it's the same people.
making it through the open bracket of MLG is 10x easier than qualifying for code A
Yeah but it's way more expensive and time-consuming to go to Korea for 30 days to have a small chance to win $1400 than for 4 top Koreans to come to USA for 3 days and have a big chance to win $5000 and a code S spot. It's pretty obvious that the Koreans gets the upper-hand in this league-exchange deal.
Yeah, that's somewhat true, but you can look at it in a different way. First off I'd like to mention that GSL provides housing, food, and I believe flights as well for the foreigners, but the trip to GSL isn't about playing 1 tournament and leaving.
Code A itself is only 1500 for the winner, but if you can manage to make it into the top 8 (that's 2 rounds) and miraculously get through the up and down and make it into code S, you're guaranteed $1500 anyway just for being code S. If you make it 1 round past that you've secured code S as well as made a lot more money.
The amount of time you have to stay is the only real hindering part, but at the same time you're getting a good experience and becoming a better player out of it.
food? the fuck. you dont have any clue what you are talking about.
On August 21 2011 20:49 hugman wrote: Four Koreans seeded into MLG Pool Play every time is a way bigger deal than two or three foreigners getting a Code-A spot even if it's the same people.
making it through the open bracket of MLG is 10x easier than qualifying for code A
Yeah but it's way more expensive and time-consuming to go to Korea for 30 days to have a small chance to win $1400 than for 4 top Koreans to come to USA for 3 days and have a big chance to win $5000 and a code S spot. It's pretty obvious that the Koreans gets the upper-hand in this league-exchange deal.
Yeah, that's somewhat true, but you can look at it in a different way. First off I'd like to mention that GSL provides housing, food, and I believe flights as well for the foreigners, but the trip to GSL isn't about playing 1 tournament and leaving.
Code A itself is only 1500 for the winner, but if you can manage to make it into the top 8 (that's 2 rounds) and miraculously get through the up and down and make it into code S, you're guaranteed $1500 anyway just for being code S. If you make it 1 round past that you've secured code S as well as made a lot more money.
The amount of time you have to stay is the only real hindering part, but at the same time you're getting a good experience and becoming a better player out of it.
food? the fuck. you dont have any clue what you are talking about.
Could you please shed light over the details of the exchange? Do you have to go through qualies? :-s
On August 21 2011 20:49 hugman wrote: Four Koreans seeded into MLG Pool Play every time is a way bigger deal than two or three foreigners getting a Code-A spot even if it's the same people.
making it through the open bracket of MLG is 10x easier than qualifying for code A
Yeah but it's way more expensive and time-consuming to go to Korea for 30 days to have a small chance to win $1400 than for 4 top Koreans to come to USA for 3 days and have a big chance to win $5000 and a code S spot. It's pretty obvious that the Koreans gets the upper-hand in this league-exchange deal.
Yeah, that's somewhat true, but you can look at it in a different way. First off I'd like to mention that GSL provides housing, food, and I believe flights as well for the foreigners, but the trip to GSL isn't about playing 1 tournament and leaving.
Code A itself is only 1500 for the winner, but if you can manage to make it into the top 8 (that's 2 rounds) and miraculously get through the up and down and make it into code S, you're guaranteed $1500 anyway just for being code S. If you make it 1 round past that you've secured code S as well as made a lot more money.
The amount of time you have to stay is the only real hindering part, but at the same time you're getting a good experience and becoming a better player out of it.
food? the fuck. you dont have any clue what you are talking about.
Could you please shed light over the details of the exchange? Do you have to go through qualies? :-s
Nani hwaiting!
No, he's already answered that in this thread and since he got top 4 foreigner at MLG Anaheim he got another Code A spot.
On August 21 2011 13:40 KingofGods wrote: Tastosis said that all those foreigners will have to try and qualify.
Yes this is true. Getting 2 chances @ THE hardest thing to qualify for would be insanely unfair. THere are people who are twice as good as Naniwa (No offense to him hes one of my favorite players) that can't even qualify for the tournament because Code B is that hard. HoSoe Team for example... pretty sure i spelt that wrong.
The rules are all there... he earned it twice, why is that unfair?
On August 21 2011 13:40 KingofGods wrote: Tastosis said that all those foreigners will have to try and qualify.
Yes this is true. Getting 2 chances @ THE hardest thing to qualify for would be insanely unfair. THere are people who are twice as good as Naniwa (No offense to him hes one of my favorite players) that can't even qualify for the tournament because Code B is that hard. HoSoe Team for example... pretty sure i spelt that wrong.
So you think a foreigner with worse results than Naniwa should get it because Naniwa already got it once? Because Code B players will not get it from MLG anyway.
Not sure why people think there was any possibility of Naniwa getting denied a second Code A spot (that he earned) just because he had already earned one previously. Do people really think GOM wouldn't have considered the possibility of multiple qualifying finishes by a single player? They obviously did, and the fact that they didn't explicitly say something is pretty clear evidence that there is no restriction on how many times you can win a spot through MLG.
I tried to get word from MLGLee (the guy that manages the "Rules" for MLG) about this. It was something noticed back before Anaheim. We've got no word, from any public source, about how the very fine details of the Code A slots work. By simply what has been posted, Naniwa *could* take rolling Code A invites. But, I imagine there's likely a time-limit of "you can take 1 Code A invite every X tournaments" type deal.
On August 21 2011 22:40 Taf the Ghost wrote: I tried to get word from MLGLee (the guy that manages the "Rules" for MLG) about this. It was something noticed back before Anaheim. We've got no word, from any public source, about how the very fine details of the Code A slots work. By simply what has been posted, Naniwa *could* take rolling Code A invites. But, I imagine there's likely a time-limit of "you can take 1 Code A invite every X tournaments" type deal.
Why would it be? Ofc they want the best foreigners in GSL so if one player finish as the top foreigner every MLG they'd obviously want him to come back rather than someone who finish around 15th and only gets invited because no one else want to. That would be like if a Code B player qualify for code A but lose in ro32 and then can't try to qualify again next season.
On August 21 2011 14:30 Naniwa wrote: Well i am very sorry for coming top3 foreigner at MLG everytime. that is indeed very unfair towards some of the koreans in code B who are extremly good. but thats just the way it is right now. why should i not use every method available to try to get into code S, It is true right now that my play has been broken down since i came to korea which will result in me losing a few more games in the start, but once i stabilize and get used to their style i am sure i will become a much better player.
Dude it is a lot better than seeing other foreigners in code A. It is how the exchange program works and they want the best foreigners, no need to apologize.
While some people may think it is unfair for some really good Code B players, I think they would find guys like Naniwa and Thorzain more respectable as opposed to inviting the semi-pros we have in NA participating in MLG.
On August 21 2011 22:40 Taf the Ghost wrote: I tried to get word from MLGLee (the guy that manages the "Rules" for MLG) about this. It was something noticed back before Anaheim. We've got no word, from any public source, about how the very fine details of the Code A slots work. By simply what has been posted, Naniwa *could* take rolling Code A invites. But, I imagine there's likely a time-limit of "you can take 1 Code A invite every X tournaments" type deal.
Why would you "imagine" there should be an arbitrary time limit?
This has been covered in this thread by people who know. Not speculate but fucking know what they're talking about.
As long as Naniwa stays in Korea, I don't care how he stays or gets second chances in code a. I just want to see what he can do after six months or w/e in Korea, I want to see Naniwa's full potential! Awesome to see it is code a next season too, looking forward to it alot. Good luck and have fun! Also, I hope the sushi in Korea is good or I am afraid we might see Naniwa back in Sweden in much too short a time.
It should be pointed out that, given the time framing, it was fully possible for the Code A invites to fall to players placing in the 20s or low at MLG Anaheim, from asking various people. A lot of NA/EU pros are still in school for a year or two more, which complicates matters.
On August 21 2011 20:49 hugman wrote: Four Koreans seeded into MLG Pool Play every time is a way bigger deal than two or three foreigners getting a Code-A spot even if it's the same people.
making it through the open bracket of MLG is 10x easier than qualifying for code A
Yeah but it's way more expensive and time-consuming to go to Korea for 30 days to have a small chance to win $1400 than for 4 top Koreans to come to USA for 3 days and have a big chance to win $5000 and a code S spot. It's pretty obvious that the Koreans gets the upper-hand in this league-exchange deal.
Yeah, that's somewhat true, but you can look at it in a different way. First off I'd like to mention that GSL provides housing, food, and I believe flights as well for the foreigners, but the trip to GSL isn't about playing 1 tournament and leaving.
Code A itself is only 1500 for the winner, but if you can manage to make it into the top 8 (that's 2 rounds) and miraculously get through the up and down and make it into code S, you're guaranteed $1500 anyway just for being code S. If you make it 1 round past that you've secured code S as well as made a lot more money.
The amount of time you have to stay is the only real hindering part, but at the same time you're getting a good experience and becoming a better player out of it.
food? the fuck. you dont have any clue what you are talking about.
Could you please shed light over the details of the exchange? Do you have to go through qualies? :-s
Nani hwaiting!
I think it was in this video where Artosis interviews John the translator from GOMTV about the foreigner house. I watched this a long while ago. If I remember correctly, John mentioned that they don't provide food
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