EPTWhat do people expect from DotA2
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BadgerBadger8264
Netherlands409 Posts
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ToXi-
Switzerland19 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
The overall feel of the games, animations and specially balancing is actually very diferent. HoN heros, in my opinion, seem much stronger than Dota heroes, or at least much more well rounded, with less flaws. I don't think think we could ever see a hero with a nuke + silence, a slow + nuke that hits two players even in fog of war, a skill that gives map control plus a hold and a ulti that does damage with no mana cost and heals you, in a hero with 3.0 agi gain and above average range. Most ports from dota also seem to be buffed in some way. There are also new items, like spellshards, that make a big diference in the way the game is played. | ||
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koprulureport
Austria43 Posts
- no runes at 00:00 in hon - buyback limit per player in hon - not sure, but i think the orb mechanics are a bit different im sure there are more, but i dont know every one. | ||
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Taco_Bueno
United States43 Posts
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EtherealBlade
660 Posts
I also expect it to be expensive >.> | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
- HoN has toooo many stupid changes ie. giving blink/leap-esque ability to every hero, or creating stupid concepts - Porting heroes totally differently from DotA(wtf, "The Admiral" became a Gladiator? REALLY?) - Too flashy graphics(although I could say it can be changed in your Options) Also, personal dislikes about HoN: - Small letters and icons - what is the point of an icon if you need bottle-glasses to see it? How the hell am I supposed to read all the words when I'm at a "safe distance" from the screen? - herpderp microtransactions, but I guess it is a consequence of the f2p model. Still, having only 15+x heroes available at a time sucks. - "Double Tap"? "Hat Trick"? QUAD KILL? Annihilation kinda saves itself but it is still bad. Bloodlust makes no sense. etc - Annoying alternate announcers, and lack of UT announcer by itself(which is so awesome). And that is why, IMO, DotA2>HoN. And I didn't even took matchmaking or other stuff into consideration(also, Steam rulez), because I haven't had the chance to try it out. | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
On August 18 2011 22:32 Muki wrote: I expect DotA2 to kill HoN and force LoL to the 2nd place. I also expect it to be expensive >.> keep those comments to yourself why would you ever wish a company to go under and all those people to lose their jobs. | ||
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Canola
Canada159 Posts
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EtherealBlade
660 Posts
On August 18 2011 22:34 MavercK wrote: keep those comments to yourself why would you ever wish a company to go under and all those people to lose their jobs. I don't want them to go under, I want Dota 2 to be more successful which would mean the competition suffers anyway. Also they are just living off other people's work anyway but that's a long debate. | ||
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BadgerBadger8264
Netherlands409 Posts
I don't want them to go under, I want Dota 2 to be more successful which would mean the competition suffers anyway. Also they are just living off other people's work anyway but that's a long debate. How are they living off of other peoples work? | ||
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kiddie
Canada70 Posts
On August 18 2011 23:15 BadgerBadger8264 wrote: How are they living off of other peoples work? Icefrog didn't make DotA, Guinsoo/Pendragon (the creators of LoL) made DotA Allstars. If anything, Valve/Icefrog are living off of their work. The game was in a pretty terrible state when Euls, Guinsoo were developing the map. It was terribly imbalanced. It was also nowhere near as popular as it is now until Icefrog started working on the map. Icefrog deserves all the credit for turning DotA into the game it is today. On topic: I expect Dota2 to be exactly like DotA plus all the neat features and dedicated servers, etc. | ||
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LynxLynx
Czech Republic38 Posts
On August 18 2011 23:15 BadgerBadger8264 wrote: Icefrog didn't make DotA, Guinsoo/Pendragon (the creators of LoL) made DotA Allstars. If anything, Valve/Icefrog are living off of their work. No, they didnt. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 18 2011 23:15 BadgerBadger8264 wrote: How are they living off of other peoples work? Icefrog didn't make DotA. Blizzard first created the DotA genre in Starcraft (in the Aeon of Strife map), Eul created the first DotA and Guinsoo/Pendragon (the creators of LoL) made DotA Allstars. If anything, Valve/Icefrog are living off of their work. http://i.imgur.com/hczA2.jpg this should answer all of your questions. credit: reddit.com/r/dota2 | ||
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BadgerBadger8264
Netherlands409 Posts
The game was in a pretty terrible state when Euls, Guinsoo were developing the map. It was terribly imbalanced. It was also nowhere near as popular as it is now until Icefrog started working on the map. Icefrog deserves all the credit for turning DotA into the game it is today. Still, how are they living off of Icefrog's work? What Icefrog did made DotA more popular, not LoL. It doesn't even come close to catering to the same group of people, and the amount of people going from DotA to LoL isn't really big. It's still stupid to say they "live off of his work". League of Legends earned its spot by itself. Period. Now HoN is a different story, and you *could* argue there considering it directly takes a lot of concepts and heroes from DotA. But saying LoL lives off of Icefrog's work is, at best, ridiculous. | ||
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iYiYi
United States489 Posts
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Invoker
Belgium686 Posts
That's a very similar question to what you asked imo. But DotA is quite new comparing to SC/BW. And that's why there is not much changes in the game mechanics. It's like the DotA with better graphics. And It has huge support from Valve. | ||
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TheOuroboros
France68 Posts
But i don't think they will do it... | ||
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kiddie
Canada70 Posts
On August 18 2011 23:30 BadgerBadger8264 wrote: Still, how are they living off of Icefrog's work? What Icefrog did made DotA more popular, not LoL. It doesn't even come close to catering to the same group of people, and the amount of people going from DotA to LoL isn't really big. It's still stupid to say they "live off of his work". League of Legends earned its spot by itself. Period. Now HoN is a different story, and you *could* argue there considering it does take a lot of concepts from DotA. I said nothing about them living off of Icefrog's work. On August 18 2011 23:15 BadgerBadger8264 wrote: How are they living off of other peoples work? Icefrog didn't make DotA. Blizzard first created the DotA genre in Starcraft (in the Aeon of Strife map), Eul created the first DotA and Guinsoo/Pendragon (the creators of LoL) made DotA Allstars. If anything, Valve/Icefrog are living off of their work. You said Valve/Icefrog are living off their work. I'm saying Euls, Guinsoo have done little to nothing for DotA in comparison to Icefrog. | ||
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Yurie
12079 Posts
Continued updates with heroes added now and then, focus being on balance and bug fixes. Basically I expect DotA 7.0 from Dota 2. | ||
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