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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 02:20:44
August 16 2011 00:48 GMT
#1
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Dota2 general discussion!

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XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 16 2011 00:53 GMT
#2
On August 16 2011 09:16 paper wrote:
I'd create a thread in that forum out of fear that someone is gonna make a barely passable thread that won't be updated after the game is released, but I'm kind of lazy too haha (but willing!). I also don't know what I'd put in the OP given the limited information that exists at this point, so I'm afraid a new thread would get closed out of overlap? :<

coolcrimefighter
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States378 Posts
August 16 2011 00:53 GMT
#3
lets talk about the top clans to watch out for in dota2. In my opinion clan NBD is on the rise and will surely dominate the dota2 scene.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 16 2011 00:53 GMT
#4
.... general discussion. Trust me i will be playing this game after release. but an announcement thread and a general discussion thread are very different things T.T
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
August 16 2011 00:55 GMT
#5
Let's discuss the rise of dota 2 in esport and how that correlates to the slow and painful downfall of LoL in the competitive esport scene.

User was temp banned for this post.
It aint easy being crazy
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 16 2011 00:57 GMT
#6
hey i like LoL too
Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
August 16 2011 00:59 GMT
#7
Only two more days until we get a view at everything. So exciting. I wonder if there have been any changes or if they added an extra spell to each hero, or raised the level cap. Im sure they did a whole knew re-balance of the game. It'll be really interesting to see how well valve has put together their tourney and what the production quality is like compared to a mlg or gsl. Only time will tell.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 16 2011 01:03 GMT
#8
somebody make a poll on who gona win 1mil $ :D im rooting for starboba, my home team
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 16 2011 01:04 GMT
#9
On August 16 2011 09:55 Xplitcit wrote:
Let's discuss the rise of dota 2 in esport and how that correlates to the slow and painful downfall of LoL in the competitive esport scene.


Don't purposely try to turn this thread into DotA2 vs HoN. With Gamescon coming up soon, you guys have plenty to talk about without relying on flame bait.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 16 2011 01:04 GMT
#10
On August 16 2011 09:55 Xplitcit wrote:
Let's discuss the rise of dota 2 in esport and how that correlates to the slow and painful downfall of LoL in the competitive esport scene.

THIS!!! Let's start a LoL vs DotA flame war and how much cooler and smarter we are for playing our cooler game.

User was warned for this post
lazydino
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
August 16 2011 01:07 GMT
#11
The graphics were kind of disappointing from the pictures I've seen so far. Looks like HoN and LoL graphics mixed together.
"I have this moron thing that I do, it's called thinking" - George Carlin
Snickersnee
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States241 Posts
August 16 2011 01:08 GMT
#12
So do we have any Idea if we will get all the hero when the game comes out or will they slowly release the 80+ heroes?
Had an idea that combines the intimate moment of delivering babies with Crazy Taxi last night. Can emotional arcade style gaming work?
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 16 2011 01:11 GMT
#13
On August 16 2011 10:08 Snickersnee wrote:
So do we have any Idea if we will get all the hero when the game comes out or will they slowly release the 80+ heroes?



the most used heroes in pro scene will be in the tournament, while the rest will be added in the beta-early release.
RLTY
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States965 Posts
August 16 2011 01:11 GMT
#14
On August 16 2011 09:53 coolcrimefighter wrote:
lets talk about the top clans to watch out for in dota2. In my opinion clan NBD is on the rise and will surely dominate the dota2 scene.

I think you're right; NBD kept a low profile in DotA but I think they'll explode in dota2

NBD HWAITING! ~
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
August 16 2011 01:12 GMT
#15
I was out of touch for quite some time, whos NBD?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
August 16 2011 01:12 GMT
#16
As cool as this is, the real thread will be made by paper.

Just like nba, football, nfl, hockey, ufc threads are maintained by a core group, this is just a placeholder until open beta.

And in case no one has seen it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOEGD7kzUEM

It's hard to predict who will play the best, but those who possess high competitive ability from dota should be the ones you can bet on.
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 16 2011 01:13 GMT
#17
On August 16 2011 10:12 Steveling wrote:
I was out of touch for quite some time, whos NBD?



/sarcasm
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 01:14:28
August 16 2011 01:14 GMT
#18
I just hope this thread doesn't turn to a DotA vs LoL/HoN endless debate

The 17th is the day.Can't wait
''They put signs, but I can't read''
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 16 2011 01:15 GMT
#19
On August 16 2011 10:12 Ack1027 wrote:
It's hard to predict who will play the best, but those who possess high competitive ability from dota should be the ones you can bet on.



DotA skill will easily translate to D2, so
Best DotA teams = Best DotA 2 teams = MYM HWAITING!!!
Mangix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
August 16 2011 01:16 GMT
#20
wow the trailer is giving me chills...im so hyped.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 16 2011 01:19 GMT
#21
On August 16 2011 10:12 Ack1027 wrote:
As cool as this is, the real thread will be made by paper.

Just like nba, football, nfl, hockey, ufc threads are maintained by a core group, this is just a placeholder until open beta.

And in case no one has seen it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOEGD7kzUEM

It's hard to predict who will play the best, but those who possess high competitive ability from dota should be the ones you can bet on.

what i was TRUELY expected when i heard about dota2 trailer:

1/INVOKER
2/storm ultimate (a little disappointing)
3/The carriers lineup: Troll Void PA Riki Spec
4/ Tinker Zeus :<
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
August 16 2011 01:21 GMT
#22
Can a mod make a sticky

"DotA 2 discussions ONLY, no HoN/LoL"

Seems like we'd need one -_-
HueHang
Profile Joined August 2010
73 Posts
August 16 2011 01:21 GMT
#23
Well, it's a cinematic trailer so it differs from the real ingame graphics and effects. It's a nice trailer, though

Can't wait to see it at GamesCom, Cologne :O
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
August 16 2011 01:26 GMT
#24
It would seem that a million dollar tournament would be worth streaming so is it safe to say they will be casted and streamed live? I'm not familiar with how IEM usually runs their events : /
iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
August 16 2011 01:27 GMT
#25
The trailer is amazing! Am I the only one who spotted furion?
Snickersnee
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States241 Posts
August 16 2011 01:37 GMT
#26
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon
Had an idea that combines the intimate moment of delivering babies with Crazy Taxi last night. Can emotional arcade style gaming work?
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 16 2011 01:42 GMT
#27
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon



Honestly i think they'll get it for tournaments-only, since it's incredibly dangerous to put LAN in a game whose main playerbase is located in China/Philippines (no offense to pinoys )
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
August 16 2011 01:42 GMT
#28
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon


Thats actually a very interesting concept and never actually thought about it. I definitely don't have 10 friends who would play DotA 2 though and I doubt a lot of people out there actually do. If they are so eager about their competitive scene though it would be the logical choice.
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
August 16 2011 01:42 GMT
#29
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon


We really can't tell at this moment, we don't even know wether the game is gonna be f2p or if we have to pay for it. I guess things will clear up when beta finally arrives...
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 16 2011 01:46 GMT
#30
On August 16 2011 10:42 spacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon


We really can't tell at this moment, we don't even know wether the game is gonna be f2p or if we have to pay for it. I guess things will clear up when beta finally arrives...


I think LAN is important for such a game, so I'm guessing it would be f2p.
Dear Sixsmith...
Snickersnee
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States241 Posts
August 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#31
Very true Spacer, but if it does go F2P then I wouldn't really see the point to not having it in there. MOBA games in general require alot of timing and micro and any lag would just fuck them all over.
Had an idea that combines the intimate moment of delivering babies with Crazy Taxi last night. Can emotional arcade style gaming work?
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
August 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#32
On August 16 2011 10:21 HueHang wrote:
Well, it's a cinematic trailer so it differs from the real ingame graphics and effects. It's a nice trailer, though

Can't wait to see it at GamesCom, Cologne :O


It's actually entirely the Source engine. They didn't use any special CGI.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 16 2011 01:54 GMT
#33
I think valve is going to have to make it ftp to compete with LoL casuals wise. I also don't see why not, as the format has been so massively successful for riot games. Just include like a fixed price that can unlock all heroes and we good.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 16 2011 01:57 GMT
#34
On August 16 2011 10:12 Ack1027 wrote:
As cool as this is, the real thread will be made by paper.

Just like nba, football, nfl, hockey, ufc threads are maintained by a core group, this is just a placeholder until open beta.

And in case no one has seen it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOEGD7kzUEM

It's hard to predict who will play the best, but those who possess high competitive ability from dota should be the ones you can bet on.

meh i dont see the problem with this thread, new game and all...
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
August 16 2011 02:02 GMT
#35
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon


Companies don't leave LAN out to annoy customers. They do it because of the insane amounts of piracy that goes on when LAN is available on a game. They are a business trying to make profits so its a decision that usually needs to be made.
Snickersnee
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States241 Posts
August 16 2011 02:06 GMT
#36
On August 16 2011 10:54 redFF wrote:
I think valve is going to have to make it ftp to compete with LoL casuals wise. I also don't see why not, as the format has been so massively successful for riot games. Just include like a fixed price that can unlock all heroes and we good.

With TF2 being Valves lab rat I think they know they would be able to be F2P and get away with it. I just really hope they don't make it so i need to buy Champions... That's the thing that really turns me off to LoL and HoN. I don't mind if they sell skins, taunts, hats(lol ^_^), and etc. It would just be a real bummer if they did that shit.
Had an idea that combines the intimate moment of delivering babies with Crazy Taxi last night. Can emotional arcade style gaming work?
Omegastorm
Profile Joined July 2011
102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 02:09:13
August 16 2011 02:08 GMT
#37
Its the community that will be a huge factor in who's the 'better' game.
So try to be as supportive as possible and clean as possible too.
LoL is just bashing DotA2 any chance they have, don't get hurt or ath because i can guarantee you that DotA 2 is better than LoL and i've played both games.

All it needs is a good community.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 16 2011 02:09 GMT
#38
On August 16 2011 10:11 XnG_777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:08 Snickersnee wrote:
So do we have any Idea if we will get all the hero when the game comes out or will they slowly release the 80+ heroes?



the most used heroes in pro scene will be in the tournament, while the rest will be added in the beta-early release.


Seen interviews with top players complaining due to counters not being released yet, making some champs pretty op in the beta. Also if you've followed the changelogs at all there is a ton of bugs with every champ when they are first introduced into dota 2, so may take quite a while to get everyone in game.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 16 2011 02:11 GMT
#39
Add our steam group to op! Ask me if you want to help out with the group and be a mod / admin!
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/TeamLiquidDota2
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 16 2011 02:11 GMT
#40
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon


Doubt it as if you've noticed wc3 would be the best selling pc game off all time(or close) if it wasn't for all the pirating and private servers, especially in asia.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Omegastorm
Profile Joined July 2011
102 Posts
August 16 2011 02:12 GMT
#41
On August 16 2011 11:09 bigjenk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:11 XnG_777 wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:08 Snickersnee wrote:
So do we have any Idea if we will get all the hero when the game comes out or will they slowly release the 80+ heroes?



the most used heroes in pro scene will be in the tournament, while the rest will be added in the beta-early release.


Seen interviews with top players complaining due to counters not being released yet, making some champs pretty op in the beta. Also if you've followed the changelogs at all there is a ton of bugs with every champ when they are first introduced into dota 2, so may take quite a while to get everyone in game.


So they won't be playing with 80+ heroes? That sucks, i was hoping to see some special picks to beat the chinese. Heroes Heroes Heroes not champions, Thanks.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 16 2011 02:12 GMT
#42
Yeah, someone is gonna get stabbed for calling heroes champs soon for sure.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
August 16 2011 02:17 GMT
#43
so pumped for dota 2

lol/hon were terrible
young ho
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
August 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#44
I like the trailer except I think that the sound effects are wimpy. Maybe they are trying to make use of the same sound effects that will be in the game but they all feel very light or low impact. But it's just a trailer so no harm done.
twitter: @terrancem
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#45
On August 16 2011 10:42 XnG_777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon



Honestly i think they'll get it for tournaments-only, since it's incredibly dangerous to put LAN in a game whose main playerbase is located in China/Philippines (no offense to pinoys )


Well the game is F2P ANYWAY! why not lan? Lets look at tf2 for a moment.

The main reason for valve making TF2 f2p not only for testing out dota2 model but also because in China there is a replicate of TF2 with chinese features. It obviously will attract more user due to the culture and language barrier of TF2 to chinese fans.

If DotA2 is does not has LAN, there soon will be a crack for it (even sc2 got LAN crack now) and valve wont be able to do shit. The best solution here is to make the online feat. so good that LAN will be less in use. Single players will be able to find their own team using online feat. instead of LAN. Achievement unlock skin and items etc... LAN is needed but removing LAN is not the answer to anti-piracy.
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howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 16 2011 03:45 GMT
#46
On August 16 2011 11:21 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 10:42 XnG_777 wrote:
On August 16 2011 10:37 Snickersnee wrote:
Hmmmmm.... do you guys think they will have LAN? All valve games have it so I would guess this one will as well. Lately most company's are just saying fuck it... I really hope Valve doesn't join that bandwagon



Honestly i think they'll get it for tournaments-only, since it's incredibly dangerous to put LAN in a game whose main playerbase is located in China/Philippines (no offense to pinoys )


Well the game is F2P ANYWAY! why not lan? Lets look at tf2 for a moment.

The main reason for valve making TF2 f2p not only for testing out dota2 model but also because in China there is a replicate of TF2 with chinese features. It obviously will attract more user due to the culture and language barrier of TF2 to chinese fans.

If DotA2 is does not has LAN, there soon will be a crack for it (even sc2 got LAN crack now) and valve wont be able to do shit. The best solution here is to make the online feat. so good that LAN will be less in use. Single players will be able to find their own team using online feat. instead of LAN. Achievement unlock skin and items etc... LAN is needed but removing LAN is not the answer to anti-piracy.


Where did you read that it was f2p?
I know we are all assuming it is, but is it confirmed?
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-16 04:00:48
August 16 2011 03:59 GMT
#47
closing this one because only one general discussion thread is needed and the other one had nice warning at the top and more info in the op.

edit - the other is here if it wasn't obvious: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359
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