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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
On February 22 2005 19:40 HnR)hT wrote: Shit, now I'm gonna get flamed :O Eat penguin shit you ass be honker* Some people on this forum are so disputatious. Oh and babo, he probably saw the gamecube version - the Twin Snakes ;p. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
It’s a common dogma that you shouldn’t use the same words over and over again because its sounds bad. Therefore I don’t use the same words over and over again because it sounds bad. [quote] Anyways, I can honestly say that I've probably picked up a lot more knowledge through tl.net than I have done from school..[/quote] I don’t know about Sweden, but the pre-university educational system here is terrible. On one hand this attests to the failure of the school system. On the other hand if you read as many words in print as you have on tl.net, what would you guess would be the difference? [quote] My english is pretty much entirely a product of playing games/reading stuff online.. And it turned out pretty well I think.[/quote] No doubt, although don’t people in Sweden begin elementary English training in grade 1? Until grade 8 my English was pretty sub-par (I only began learning it in grade 2), but I’ve never, even in the period when I relied on imitation to learn English, used popular slang and euphemisms. [quote] Doesn't this have more to do with the tone of the forum for which you are trying to express your views?[/quote] It might. I generally adapt my replies to simulate the tone of the thread. It’s very difficult to do otherwise. Can you imagine this: Poster: Boxer beat yellow bunk rush 3-0 ROFL Reply: Had boxer the propriety of clean conscience, his characteristic vanity might have been arrested to the advantage of the spectators. As it goes, repetition merely signifies a paralysis of human creativity, the virtues of which his fans unduly adorn him [quote] Doesn't this just mean that a) The author is not very good or b) you are quite fed up with the subject? I know that I was becoming a bit bored with reading the threads here on tl, and I did indeed just scroll through stuff.. But then I went to some other board, completely unrelated to this one and yeah, none of those signs were there..[/quote] I think that when one goes through a massive amount of material of low substance, it contributes to the decay of attention span. It’s a well known fact that people’s attention spans have decreased in the past several generations. I think the very stimuli of interest have shifted from a literary medium to a visual medium in the last one hundred years, thus the human appetite for literature gradually decreased. For example, the readership of novels have become almost extinct now. [quote] Hm.. I think this is a load of crap? Maybe if you tried to read everything out there.. How is this any different from a library (aside from the fact that a library usually is pretty calm and there's no advertizing, but it's not like you can't get around that)?[/quote] I have an easier time reading from paper than from a computer screen. I tried to read Schiller’s Heroic Age of the Netherlands a few weeks ago from the Gutenberg project site. I could not manage more than a few paragraphs (I probably instinctively typed [url=http://www.teamliquid.net]www.teamliquid.net[/url] or something with the intention to eventually go back to the book and never did) I have no idea why, but the sensation of reading a book is a hundred times more intense than reading from a computer screen. I have been emotionally affected by reading books (to the point of outright sentimentality), but I have never read anything from the computer which aroused emotions other than mocking condescension. [quote] There's plenty of books reproduced in their entirety online.. And plenty of articles that are just as well written if you read them online as if you should read them in a magazine, newspaper or what have you, no?[/quote] I do read a lot of newspapers online. Generally I think journalism is rubbish today and has been for some time. I do occasionally read e-journals (academic journals published on the web), but I could never maintain the interest as I could sitting in a library with the book. [quote] My english is almost exclusively self learned.. Very little stems from school.. Again, doesn't this largely depend on who you are talking to? If you are addressing a bunch of kindergardeners day out and day in, and only speak to these kids you would probably experience the same thing you are experiencing now, right?[/quote] While you may have learned English from experience, I am guessing you had some sort of formal training to back it up. It’s very difficult to grasp a language from experience alone (took me quite a few years living in an English speaking country) You’re providing an unrealistic scenario. I hate kids and would never be caught in the midst of people with a mental maturity of less than say…12. My antipathy for stupidity recognizes no bounds, not even excusing age. | ||
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EAGER-beaver
Canada2799 Posts
[quote]I think he sometimes used 'alternate' words more for the effect than for efficiency but.. It wasn't really excessive and it wasn't exactly hard to read :-) It’s a common dogma that you shouldn’t use the same words over and over again because its sounds bad. Therefore I don’t use the same words over and over again because it sounds bad. [quote] Anyways, I can honestly say that I've probably picked up a lot more knowledge through tl.net than I have done from school..[/quote] I don’t know about Sweden, but the pre-university educational system here is terrible. On one hand this attests to the failure of the school system. On the other hand if you read as many words in print as you have on tl.net, what would you guess would be the difference? [quote] My english is pretty much entirely a product of playing games/reading stuff online.. And it turned out pretty well I think.[/quote] No doubt, although don’t people in Sweden begin elementary English training in grade 1? Until grade 8 my English was pretty sub-par (I only began learning it in grade 2), but I’ve never, even in the period when I relied on imitation to learn English, used popular slang and euphemisms. [quote] Doesn't this have more to do with the tone of the forum for which you are trying to express your views?[/quote] It might. I generally adapt my replies to simulate the tone of the thread. It’s very difficult to do otherwise. Can you imagine this: Poster: Boxer beat yellow bunk rush 3-0 ROFL Reply: Had boxer the propriety of clean conscience, his characteristic vanity might have been arrested to the advantage of the spectators. As it goes, repetition merely signifies a paralysis of human creativity, the virtues of which his fans unduly adorn him [quote] Doesn't this just mean that a) The author is not very good or b) you are quite fed up with the subject? I know that I was becoming a bit bored with reading the threads here on tl, and I did indeed just scroll through stuff.. But then I went to some other board, completely unrelated to this one and yeah, none of those signs were there..[/quote] I think that when one goes through a massive amount of material of low substance, it contributes to the decay of attention span. It’s a well known fact that people’s attention spans have decreased in the past several generations. I think the very stimuli of interest have shifted from a literary medium to a visual medium in the last one hundred years, thus the human appetite for literature gradually decreased. For example, the readership of novels have become almost extinct now. [quote] Hm.. I think this is a load of crap? Maybe if you tried to read everything out there.. How is this any different from a library (aside from the fact that a library usually is pretty calm and there's no advertizing, but it's not like you can't get around that)?[/quote] I have an easier time reading from paper than from a computer screen. I tried to read Schiller’s Heroic Age of the Netherlands a few weeks ago from the Gutenberg project site. I could not manage more than a few paragraphs (I probably instinctively typed [url=http://www.teamliquid.net]www.teamliquid.net[/url] or something with the intention to eventually go back to the book and never did) I have no idea why, but the sensation of reading a book is a hundred times more intense than reading from a computer screen. I have been emotionally affected by reading books (to the point of outright sentimentality), but I have never read anything from the computer which aroused emotions other than mocking condescension. [quote] There's plenty of books reproduced in their entirety online.. And plenty of articles that are just as well written if you read them online as if you should read them in a magazine, newspaper or what have you, no?[/quote] I do read a lot of newspapers online. Generally I think journalism is rubbish today and has been for some time. I do occasionally read e-journals (academic journals published on the web), but I could never maintain the interest as I could sitting in a library with the book. [quote] My english is almost exclusively self learned.. Very little stems from school.. Again, doesn't this largely depend on who you are talking to? If you are addressing a bunch of kindergardeners day out and day in, and only speak to these kids you would probably experience the same thing you are experiencing now, right?[/quote] While you may have learned English from experience, I am guessing you had some sort of formal training to back it up. It’s very difficult to grasp a language from experience alone (took me quite a few years living in an English speaking country) You’re providing an unrealistic scenario. I hate kids and would never be caught in the midst of people with a mental maturity of less than say…12. My antipathy for stupidity recognizes no bounds, not even excusing age. [/QUOTE] After reading your original post I have to say that you suck. In general. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On February 22 2005 20:21 EAGER-beaver wrote: After reading your original post I have to say that you suck. In general. And with far less research and effort on my part, I have to say that you suck more than me. | ||
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EAGER-beaver
Canada2799 Posts
On February 22 2005 20:27 MoltkeWarding wrote: And with far less research and effort on my part, I have to say that you suck more than me. Talk about being an unoriginal hack. You shamelessly copied my marvel of literature.  ? | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
On February 22 2005 20:45 EAGER-beaver wrote: Talk about being an unoriginal hack. You shamelessly copied my marvel of literature. ?Are you a hairy beaver, or a bald beaver? | ||
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ReBanned
1929 Posts
On February 22 2005 20:27 MoltkeWarding wrote: And with far less research and effort on my part, I have to say that you suck more than me. I don't like you. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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