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Gunther
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany139 Posts
July 05 2011 19:29 GMT
#161
Everyone is so convinced she is guilty, I'm afraid for her life. I feel like prison would have been a much safer place for it. I wonder if she will receive protection from the govt for the coming years.
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:29:39
July 05 2011 19:29 GMT
#162
On July 06 2011 04:26 mewby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:24 Eknoid4 wrote:
ITT: People insult the justice system because they believed the Media before even asking about the facts.

are you stupid? the facts are that she lied to police for months about helping them find her missing daughter, she partied and was getting tattoos and enjoying her life while her 2 year old daughter was missing, chloroform, smell of death, etc.

so what you're saying is that if you lie to the police you should get charged with murder ?
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10568 Posts
July 05 2011 19:30 GMT
#163
On July 06 2011 04:26 mewby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:24 Eknoid4 wrote:
ITT: People insult the justice system because they believed the Media before even asking about the facts.

are you stupid? the facts are that she lied to police for months about helping them find her missing daughter, she partied and was getting tattoos and enjoying her life while her 2 year old daughter was missing, chloroform, smell of death, etc.


The case was built on a narrative by the prosecution and a bunch of circumstantial evidence.

Summed up perfectly by one of the prosecution's closing argument:

"Who's life was better off with Caylee dead? That's the only question you have to consider."

No! That's not the only question you have to consider!!!!!! wtf!
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 05 2011 19:30 GMT
#164
Just curious as to the opinion of TL'ers


Poll: Did she murder her kid?

Yes (28)
 
53%

No (25)
 
47%

53 total votes

Your vote: Did she murder her kid?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


dar5283
Profile Joined June 2011
United States65 Posts
July 05 2011 19:31 GMT
#165
Dexter Morgan, meet Casey Anthony.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:31:25
July 05 2011 19:31 GMT
#166
I think my friend said it well in his facebook post:

I am not gonna say what I think about Casey Anthony and whether she is guilty or not. I will say, it disgusts me that someone can go through every element of the justice system with the fiercest opposition, be found not guilty, and still be crucified by people who have no idea what the truth is. A trial is meant to be what determines guilt and innocence. If you just decide that someone must have gotten it wrong and so it's your right, power and privilege to act as though they are exactly what they were not found to be, you demean justice. Even if you are right. Even if they did it. The idea of a trial is to avoid you and people like you seeking villification and vindication for their own ends. Just so you know.
yellingnewt
Profile Joined June 2011
United States22 Posts
July 05 2011 19:31 GMT
#167
off on reasonable doubt, probably did it but can't prove it 100%. What should of happened happened.
High Masters Protoss: :)
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#168
On July 06 2011 04:29 Gunther wrote:
Everyone is so convinced she is guilty, I'm afraid for her life. I feel like prison would have been a much safer place for it. I wonder if she will receive protection from the govt for the coming years.


Yeh same, I'm wouldn't be suprised if a bunch of weirdos try and go vigilante on her ass.
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:33:45
July 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#169
On July 06 2011 04:31 3clipse wrote:
I think my friend said it well in his facebook post:

Show nested quote +
I am not gonna say what I think about Casey Anthony and whether she is guilty or not. I will say, it disgusts me that someone can go through every element of the justice system with the fiercest opposition, be found not guilty, and still be crucified by people who have no idea what the truth is. A trial is meant to be what determines guilt and innocence. If you just decide that someone must have gotten it wrong and so it's your right, power and privilege to act as though they are exactly what they were not found to be, you demean justice. Even if you are right. Even if they did it. The idea of a trial is to avoid you and people like you seeking villification and vindication for their own ends. Just so you know.


That guy is an idiot, a non guilty verdict does not mean innocent. OJ simpson was found not guilty in criminal court, but still guilty in civil court and forced to pay the families of the two people he killed for murder.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#170
On July 06 2011 03:53 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:23 Dknight wrote:
She was accused of murdering her three year old child ;\


The key word there is accused. She was accused, and the public tried her and found her guilty before she got to trial. The prosecution did not have substantial enough evidence to convict her. No matter how much anyone wants her to be punished, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did the crime they were accused of.

Even though she's an absolutely horrible mother, and a bad person, she has the same rights regarding a fair trial as everyone else in the country.

Our justice system was thus not mocked today, but instead, it was exalted. Nobody really knows what happened to her daughter, but people have turned her into a murderer because she's a bad mother. There are only a couple of things that we know about Casey Anthony with absolute certainty: she's a liar (she lied to police, this is documented), and she is (what most would consider) an awful mother (partying during the month her daughter was missing would lead one to believe this). What we don't know, and cannot prove beyond reasonable doubt, is that she's a murderer--and that's what this trial was all about. Bad mother, liar . . . maybe not a murderer.

To note: I'm only defending our justice system, I think she probably did it, and probably deserves horrible things to happen to her regardless of whether or not she murdered her daughter, she seems soulless and evil, in my eyes. But my eyes are biased, and the eyes of the law must be unbiased.


Your eyes aren't biased, it's the fact that the human brain is capable of simple logic... But logic never gets you anywhere these days does it?

The fact that she tried that counter suit on her father was enough for me to make my decision on her. But the evidence wasn't there and the prosecution was painful to watch. I remember one of the state's pieces of evidence:
(Begin crude paraphrasing)
"We found a shovel and there was a hair on it."
"Was it her hair?"
"We don't know who it belongs to, but it has been tested and it is hair."

The end result isn't surprising, as the sentences increase, the chance of conviction decreases.
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:46:46
July 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#171
THIS JUST IN:

Not calling the authorities for 31 days after your child goes missing (kidnapped according to Casey's first story) isn't child abuse.

Cool jury bro.


Yeah I know we shouldn't be criticizing the jury, its how our justice system works. However, I just can't get past that logic.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#172
On July 06 2011 04:24 Eknoid4 wrote:
ITT: People insult the justice system because they believed the Media before even asking about the facts.



There's a reason that juries are forbidden to watch, listen to or read about a case while it is going on. The media is stupid.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#173
On July 06 2011 04:32 AzurewinD wrote:
THIS JUST IN:

Not calling the authorities for 31 days after your child goes missing isn't child neglect.

Cool jury bro.


Yeah I know we shouldn't be criticizing the jury, its how our justice system works. However, I just can't get past that logic.


You can't neglect something that's dead. That's why the charge was dropped.
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
July 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#174
On July 06 2011 04:32 dacthehork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:31 3clipse wrote:
I think my friend said it well in his facebook post:

I am not gonna say what I think about Casey Anthony and whether she is guilty or not. I will say, it disgusts me that someone can go through every element of the justice system with the fiercest opposition, be found not guilty, and still be crucified by people who have no idea what the truth is. A trial is meant to be what determines guilt and innocence. If you just decide that someone must have gotten it wrong and so it's your right, power and privilege to act as though they are exactly what they were not found to be, you demean justice. Even if you are right. Even if they did it. The idea of a trial is to avoid you and people like you seeking villification and vindication for their own ends. Just so you know.


That guy is an idiot, a non guilty verdict does not mean innocent. OJ simpson was found not guilty in criminal court, but still guilty in civil court and forced to pay the families of the two people he killed for murder.

Public vilification does not a villain make.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10568 Posts
July 05 2011 19:34 GMT
#175
On July 06 2011 04:31 3clipse wrote:
I think my friend said it well in his facebook post:

Show nested quote +
I am not gonna say what I think about Casey Anthony and whether she is guilty or not. I will say, it disgusts me that someone can go through every element of the justice system with the fiercest opposition, be found not guilty, and still be crucified by people who have no idea what the truth is. A trial is meant to be what determines guilt and innocence. If you just decide that someone must have gotten it wrong and so it's your right, power and privilege to act as though they are exactly what they were not found to be, you demean justice. Even if you are right. Even if they did it. The idea of a trial is to avoid you and people like you seeking villification and vindication for their own ends. Just so you know.


The outcome of a trial is completely irrelevant to what you should think about it when the entire trial is televised. You don't have to share the opinion of 12 random people anymore than you have to share the opinion of 60 million people that voted for Bush.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 05 2011 19:35 GMT
#176
the truth is out there

will we find it? we'll never know
banelings
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:37:52
July 05 2011 19:35 GMT
#177
It's amazing how people are surprised by this, all of the evidence was such circumstantial nonsense that didn't amount to anything.
Hudson Valley Progamer
dacthehork
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2000 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:37:07
July 05 2011 19:36 GMT
#178
On July 06 2011 04:33 Eknoid4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:32 dacthehork wrote:
On July 06 2011 04:31 3clipse wrote:
I think my friend said it well in his facebook post:

I am not gonna say what I think about Casey Anthony and whether she is guilty or not. I will say, it disgusts me that someone can go through every element of the justice system with the fiercest opposition, be found not guilty, and still be crucified by people who have no idea what the truth is. A trial is meant to be what determines guilt and innocence. If you just decide that someone must have gotten it wrong and so it's your right, power and privilege to act as though they are exactly what they were not found to be, you demean justice. Even if you are right. Even if they did it. The idea of a trial is to avoid you and people like you seeking villification and vindication for their own ends. Just so you know.


That guy is an idiot, a non guilty verdict does not mean innocent. OJ simpson was found not guilty in criminal court, but still guilty in civil court and forced to pay the families of the two people he killed for murder.

Public vilification does not a villain make.


Actually I would call her a villain or a psychopath. She was partying the entire time. Yes though you are right, I should not use my common sense on this case and instead defer to a legal system for determining my judgment. Again it just means the jurors, 12 people, decided it was not without a reasonable doubt, not that she did not do it.

She obviously did kill her child IMO. The justice system is wrong a lot of the time. they could not get a "smoking" gun, but it was pretty clear to most people.
Warturtle - DOTA 2 is KING
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
July 05 2011 19:37 GMT
#179
She whacked out her kid on accident because she wanted to put her to sleep while she was partying and OD'd her on homemade chloroform. Just like the Jon-Benet Ramsey girl was slapped/knocked down on accident because she didn't do her beauty pageant walk right, mommy dearest style.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
July 05 2011 19:38 GMT
#180
We'll never know whether or not she did it, but the fact is that SOMEONE did it, and NO ONE is going to jail over it. It's impossible to feel good about the situation for that reason alone.
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