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hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
July 05 2011 19:02 GMT
#101
I dont understand why people are mad? Lets just think about this for one second If you were the defended and you HONESTLY believe you didn't kill your child. but that it was an accident that you just fucked up afterwards. Would you want to be put to death because you hide your child after death?

Because i wouldnt want to kill or be killed because of a death that was an accident. Since the only thing that person did wrong was hide the body and lie about it. If lieing about someone thats already dead worth killing one more?
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
July 05 2011 19:02 GMT
#102
I feel like this was a powerful testimony:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0630/Casey-Anthony-trial-Her-father-spoke-of-accident-alleged-mistress-says
"Testifying before the defense rested in the Casey Anthony trial, George Anthony's alleged mistress says he tearfully described Caylee's death as 'an accident that snowballed out of control"

This was around when I stopped following so I don't know much more. Compounding the mistress's testimony along with the expert analysis of the duct tape kind of had me expecting a not guilty charge.
Eroberer_
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
July 05 2011 19:03 GMT
#103
She did not hold her head underwater. She gave her pills to go to sleep, ducktaped her mouth and went out to party. when she came back her daughter was dead.
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
July 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#104
On July 06 2011 03:48 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:44 billyX333 wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:39 Hawk wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:35 EnWara wrote:
Does no one here know the burden of proof for a murder trial? It's beyond a reasonable doubt. So stop getting pissed at the court system and get pissed at the shitty investigation process.


This is what it would seem

is there any kind of good resource for the information in this case?? I am still kind of confused where the doubt is, but i had only been following it quite passively

I believe the first hole in the prosecution's case was when an expert showed that the duct tape had actually been placed on after the body had already decomposed. This brought up a lot of questions about the first post-mortem autopsy's accuracy and the competence of the original examiner. I didn't follow too closely after that but I also believe the defense brought up the possibility of a cover up story/possible accident that may have taken place involving Casey Anthony's father.


Cool, thanks.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:47 mewby wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:43 RoosterSamurai wrote:
I'd like to hear your guys' theories as to what happened to the baby, if you think Casey Anthony didn't kill her? I didn't follow the trial, but my parents did, so I ended up hearing a lot about it.

I mean....Whether she did it or not, the baby died somehow.

Our justice system is so fucked up it doesnt matter. All that matters is there was no physical evidence despite all the lying and bullshit. Anyone who has followed this with common sense would say she killed her daughter.



how fucked would the whole system be though if you could convict on flimsy evidence?


People don't understand how the justice system works. They think people should be found guilty based on how they are perceived. They think they should be found guilty of murder because they're bad parents, etc.

A woman at work said to me "I dont think that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she is not guilty." That's how people perceived this case, which is disgusting to me.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
yosisoy
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel202 Posts
July 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#105
Where's Dexter when you need him?
In Soviet Russia, sorrow harvest you
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
July 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#106
One more thing the defense put up a great fight to just show that their was no 100% evidence that the child was killed by the defended only that the child died and it was hidden.
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:06:13
July 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#107
I don't know still makes me wonder how she got off on aggravated child abuse / neglect since she didn't report her daughter missing after 30 days. Just enough time to party and get your parents to lie for you.

I wonder if her mother will get charged with purgury after saying she did the searches at home when she was really at work.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
July 05 2011 19:05 GMT
#108
On July 06 2011 04:04 yosisoy wrote:
Where's Dexter when you need him?



LOL
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:06:33
July 05 2011 19:05 GMT
#109
On July 06 2011 04:02 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
I dont understand why people are mad? Lets just think about this for one second If you were the defended and you HONESTLY believe you didn't kill your child. but that it was an accident that you just fucked up afterwards. Would you want to be put to death because you hide your child after death?

Because i wouldnt want to kill or be killed because of a death that was an accident. Since the only thing that person did wrong was hide the body and lie about it. If lieing about someone thats already dead worth killing one more?


There is a difference between being imprisoned and put to death, or even charged with murder 2 or EVEN FUCKING NEGLIGENCE.

There was NO justice for her child.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:07:22
July 05 2011 19:05 GMT
#110
On July 06 2011 03:37 MozzarellaL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:33 mewby wrote:
this is really sickening, im not a law expert but jesus christ. I learned that the law doesnt follow common sense.

there's no evidence of premeditation, so the correct ruling was not guilty on the charge of 1st degree murder

not entirely sure what aggravated manslaughter is, but based on what manslaughter is, doubt she is guilty of that either.

Involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide, more likely as to what happened, but they didn't try her for those crimes.

there was no violation of common sense.



This. I didn't follow this trial and have only heard about it in passing. I've served on a jury before, though. Generally, the judge gives the jury instructions about each possible charge. Each charge has a number of criteria that must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before you can convict.

Murder one, for example, requires premeditation among other things. I have no idea what aggravated manslaughter is, either, but it likely has a component in addition to killing someone.

Sometimes, prosecutors overreach. They think they can convict on a greater charge than what they have evidence for. They deliberately do not include the lesser charges to prevent juries from finding the suspect guilty on the lesser charge. That strategy can sometimes backfire.
Hister
Profile Joined June 2010
United States89 Posts
July 05 2011 19:06 GMT
#111
I don't understand this she told them the child got kidnapped 30 days before it was reported to a cop by her mother how isn't that child abuse. Even waiting a day or 2 wouldn't look good but an entire month WTF REALLY.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 05 2011 19:06 GMT
#112
On July 06 2011 04:04 Playguuu wrote:
I don't know still makes me wonder how she got off on aggravated chile abuse / neglect since she didn't report her daughter missing after 30 days. Just enough time to party and get your parents to lie for you.

I wonder if her mother will get charged with purgury after saying she did the searches at home when she was really at work.


I'm guessing that aggravated child abuse requires certain elements which they didn't prove, such as malice or intent etc.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
July 05 2011 19:06 GMT
#113
On July 06 2011 04:04 Playguuu wrote:
I don't know still makes me wonder how she got off on aggravated chile abuse / neglect since she didn't report her daughter missing after 30 days. Just enough time to party and get your parents to lie for you.

I wonder if her mother will get charged with purgury after saying she did the searches at home when she was really at work.


She was not guilty because she didn't abuse her child she died by an accident according with the defense. and you cant neglect something that's dead.
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
July 05 2011 19:06 GMT
#114
I haven't the slightest idea why National News has cared about this trial so much. I couldn't care less. It is one woman and one child. Who cares and why should we>?
TheFrankOne
Profile Joined December 2010
United States667 Posts
July 05 2011 19:07 GMT
#115
On July 06 2011 04:04 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 03:48 Hawk wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:44 billyX333 wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:39 Hawk wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:35 EnWara wrote:
Does no one here know the burden of proof for a murder trial? It's beyond a reasonable doubt. So stop getting pissed at the court system and get pissed at the shitty investigation process.


This is what it would seem

is there any kind of good resource for the information in this case?? I am still kind of confused where the doubt is, but i had only been following it quite passively

I believe the first hole in the prosecution's case was when an expert showed that the duct tape had actually been placed on after the body had already decomposed. This brought up a lot of questions about the first post-mortem autopsy's accuracy and the competence of the original examiner. I didn't follow too closely after that but I also believe the defense brought up the possibility of a cover up story/possible accident that may have taken place involving Casey Anthony's father.


Cool, thanks.

On July 06 2011 03:47 mewby wrote:
On July 06 2011 03:43 RoosterSamurai wrote:
I'd like to hear your guys' theories as to what happened to the baby, if you think Casey Anthony didn't kill her? I didn't follow the trial, but my parents did, so I ended up hearing a lot about it.

I mean....Whether she did it or not, the baby died somehow.

Our justice system is so fucked up it doesnt matter. All that matters is there was no physical evidence despite all the lying and bullshit. Anyone who has followed this with common sense would say she killed her daughter.



how fucked would the whole system be though if you could convict on flimsy evidence?


People don't understand how the justice system works. They think people should be found guilty based on how they are perceived. They think they should be found guilty of murder because they're bad parents, etc.

A woman at work said to me "I dont think that they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she is not guilty." That's how people perceived this case, which is disgusting to me.


That woman seems to be as confused as the people in this thread calling for "common sense" which is really "mob justice" and is no way to go about justice at all.
MozzarellaL
Profile Joined November 2010
United States822 Posts
July 05 2011 19:07 GMT
#116
So my take on what probably happened:

Casey was looking up ways to put her child asleep, so she could go off and do random shit without getting a babysitter. She finds something, accidentally OD's her kid in an attempt to put her to sleep, freaks out and tries to cover it up.

Is that murder? No.
Is it manslaughter? Probably not.
Criminally negligent homicide? Likely yes.

The hardass DA trying to make a career /name for himself did more to prevent justice being served, not the jury, or the defense, or the court of law.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 19:10:54
July 05 2011 19:08 GMT
#117
On July 06 2011 04:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:

There is a difference between being imprisoned and put to death, or even charged with murder 1 or EVEN FUCKING NEGLIGENCE.

There was NO justice for her child.


There is no justice in wrongful conviction or, as a previous poster puts it, "mob justice". And there apparently wasn't enough evidence to convict for aggravated child abuse.

Child neglect was dropped by both parties because you can't neglect a dead child.
mewbert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States291 Posts
July 05 2011 19:09 GMT
#118
On July 06 2011 04:06 Juddas wrote:
I haven't the slightest idea why National News has cared about this trial so much. I couldn't care less. It is one woman and one child. Who cares and why should we>?

People care because they have been so exposed to it, people want justice for a 2 year old that was killed.
hYdrA-MeNo
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico344 Posts
July 05 2011 19:10 GMT
#119
On July 06 2011 04:05 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 04:02 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
I dont understand why people are mad? Lets just think about this for one second If you were the defended and you HONESTLY believe you didn't kill your child. but that it was an accident that you just fucked up afterwards. Would you want to be put to death because you hide your child after death?

Because i wouldnt want to kill or be killed because of a death that was an accident. Since the only thing that person did wrong was hide the body and lie about it. If lieing about someone thats already dead worth killing one more?


There is a difference between being imprisoned and put to death, or even charged with murder 2 or EVEN FUCKING NEGLIGENCE.

There was NO justice for her child.


Take your emotions out of the equation. And look at the evidence the state only proved that the child was dead and was mistreated after death. The state provided no evidence of murder other than3 pieces of tape. Which was stated in court that the tape was around the child and was speculated that the tape was the murder weapon but with no proof would u give an guilty plea with no evidence of that action?
Cant Tell you Whats good....But i can tell you what's what
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
July 05 2011 19:11 GMT
#120
The best part about this verdict is listening to the manufactured rage of that shrill hag Nancy Grace and her murder-profiteering colleagues.
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