The PUA community - Page 84

On February 14 2012 08:03 squattincassanova wrote:
First of all, I'm an Asian telling you that we don't like to be called Orientals. Its from experience, not from theory.

Second of all, when you call someone Asian, its assumed he looks like Chinese/ Korean / Japanese etc etc. Nobody calls a Saudi Arabian Asian. Nor does anybody call a Saudi Arabian Oriental either.

Wikipedia:

"The adjectival term Oriental has been used by the West to mean cultures, peoples, countries, and goods from the Orient. "Oriental" means generally "eastern". It is a traditional designation (especially when capitalized) for anything belonging to the Orient or "East" (for Asia), and especially of its Eastern culture. It indicated the eastern direction in historical astronomy, often abbreviated "Ori."[3] In contemporary English, Oriental usually refers to things from the parts of East Asia traditionally occupied by East Asians and most Central Asians and Southeast Asians racially categorized as "Mongoloid". This excludes Indians, Arabs, most other West Asian peoples. Because of historical discrimination against Chinese and Japanese, in some parts of the United States, the term is considered derogatory; for example, Washington state prohibits use of the word "Oriental" in legislation and government documentation, preferring the word "Asian" instead.[4]"


Don't need to give you a reason other than the fact that most Asians don't like to be called by it, just like Black people don't like the N word either. Also in pickup, most people learning it from Asia are Asians. Nobody ever classifies Asians with Indians. Nobody ever classifies Asians with Middle Eastern people. We don't look alike, we don't have the same type of cultures or personalities, therefore Oriental has no purpose other than the fact its a stupid word.

On February 12 2012 02:28 r.Evo wrote:


First of all I gotta say that I definitly have fuck no idea about your culture over there and how it influences the whole dating culture. I'm fine with the asian girls I've met around here, but most of them (while more shy than the locals) have been in the country for 10+ years. Germany has the huge (dis-)advantage of being a melting pot of cultures so we basicly have everything around and most have their own sub-scenes and clubs where they hang, but for asians there just aren't enough of them to really do their own thing.

Basicly the only Asians I'm seeing here in groups among themselves are Japanese who are hired by the bigger companies. =D


tl;dr version for day 2s: Talk to her, have fun with her for 10ish minutes and then either bounce her to a café and do your "day 2" right there (instant-date) or be along the lines of "wow, you are a lot of fun, any idea how we can continue this some other time?" ... if the conversation was cool for her there is usually not a lot that keeps her from giving you her number. Be ready for some small resistance though ("Oh, no, sorry, I have a boyfriend!" - "Wowow, I said I think you're a cool person, I don't want to marry you." / *random hesitation* "Oh, don't worry. I'll just sit at home for the next two weeks and won't have anything better to do than call you about 15 times per day. Only 10 times per night though since I probably will need some sleep. After a few days." etc. pp.)




Either you're lucky and you actually are reminded of something and connect it to the current topic or you pretend you're reminded of something and pretend it has something to do with the current topic. e.g. You're talking about business management (usually sounds like an incredibly boring topic unless, good point, you got some funny story where shit was going TOTALLY chaotic but somehow it was still fun) and then you can be like "Oh, by the way that reminds me of a story I read yesterday. Did you know that that the people in LA aren't allowed to play frisbee anymore at the beach? They are fining KIDS for kicking footballs over there." ... about 70% of the time (especially if she is okay with the conversation she will just go along with it, if you get called out for the fact that there is like NO connection what so ever you can shrug it off with a "Oh, yeah, my brain sometimes makes awesome connections, does that never happen to you?" and all is good again.

"Oh, that reminds me of..."
"Now that you're saying that I read yesterday that..."
"While we're at it, did you know that..."


A good practice is, once again, doing stuff like that with your buddies and, bonus exercise, if you get called out you make out some kind of logical connection with the original topic on the spot. e.g. "Business management" -> "chaotic" -> "big cities" -> "LA".

Back top pickup this type of thoughtprocess enables you to instantly find 3-4 possible topics from wherever you started once you get used to it. If you get called out that you make no sense you can pull out some chain of thoughts out of your ass (which usually makes somewhat sense since so much stuff can be connected) and see if she reacts to any of it.


e.g. you're at the business management talk, try to switch to some stupid law in LA, she calls you out for it. "Oh, yeah, my brain makes sometimes awesome connections. Does that never happen to you? ... I was like: 'Business management is chaotic, I find big cities chaotic and confusing as hell and despite that I always wanted to visit Los Angeles.' - That's what reminded me of that stupid law. Anyway, is there a place for you which you always wanted to visit but never got around to go for it?"

Please note that basicly ANY chain of thoughts that makes sense creates some kind of a mental "yes-chain" with the person who listens. Basicly free "bonus points" in terms of rapport out of nowhere so to speak. You're kinda getting the other person to agree to listen to you further without saying anything with actual content, but that's slightly drifting off-topic.





If you draw attention from the people around you and are not obviously influenced by it (the guy who suddenly tries to be the big MC who get's people to copy him) you create attraction. Whoever is in the spotlight is usually more attractive than some guy no one likes to watch. (hint: We're talking about the "wow, cool"-spotlight not the "LOL LOOK AT THAT MOVEMENT-DYSLEXIC DUDE"-spotlight)

Have fun on the dancefloor, don't give a shit about others and then... watch out for those damn approach invitations. Girls who "accidently" bump into you multiple times (you bumping into them doesn't count) might be candidates. Look up, see if you can get eye-contact. If you walk away from the dance floor, watch for dat eye-contact. If you managed to pull off something hilarious that someone can talk to you about (think physical peacocking here) you might even be "approached" by a girl.



EMBARASSING STORY TIME YO.

A wing of mine I just love to go out with is dancing argentine tango since like 5 years. Since I'm dancing salsa since like 3 years we had one club night where he was like THAT SONG RIGHT THERE WOULD BE SO PERFECT FOR TANGO and I'm like SHOW ME DUDE LOL. In the end we were leading each other (we switched who played the woman like every song) for like 15-20 minutes and literally EVERY SINGLE GIRL was staring at us and pointing fingers. However, since we both knew what we were doing, laughed our asses off during breaks and switched roles including the most stupid poses (need to get them titties back into position, yo!) we came off some mix between confident, insane and drunk.

What happened afterwards was one girl slapping my wings ass on the way off the dance floor and a girl from a different group asking me "So, how long are you and your buddy together?" while giggling like mad. We (unintended) both ended up demanding drinks from those two and ended up doing 5 questions game at the bar while their (female) buddies stood around us laughing and watching.

-> 2 dudes who just looked crazy and were totally fine doing absolutely gay stuff on the dancefloor are surrounded by 8+ girls at the bar afterwards who are all laughing and seemingly have lots of fun.

Every female who got a glimpse of that was easy game for the rest of the night. (End result for me were 2 KCs and like 6-7 numbers which all resulted in day 2s, can't remember what my wing got out of it but it wasn't shabby either). Basicly once we were done with the groups and walked through the club we had girls burst out laughing or silently grinning when they saw us. -> "WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING AT ME, TELL ME RIGHT NOW OR... OR... OR ILL CALL YOUR MOM AND ASK HER." -> "Hihihihi I saw you earlier hihihi" -> normal game.


Whenever I'm going out with that guy and we're having a rough start it ends with LETS PULL OUT THE BIG GUNS and the story above repeats itself in terms of success.



tl;dr: If you manage to pull off something that every other guy would be ashamed of (anything that's perceived as "gay" is e.g. very powerfull. Both against guys and to get lots of attention from girls. - Basicly you're either really into men or you're a heterosexual who is INCREDIBLY confident with his sexuality.), and look as if you're having insane amounts of fun you will get attention. Attention is usually followed by some kind of approach from the girl (girls are so bad at this, watch out) or invitations via eye-contact, poses, etc. - Abuse those spots well, seducing a girl that gave you an invite is like the easiest set possible to pull off unless you go full retard mode.

On the dancefloor basicly every dude who is capable of more than nodding with the beat without looking like a douche cannoe is instantly high-value imoimo. =P