On February 11 2012 08:24 squattincassanova wrote:
I beg to differ. Most guys are sluts who can't get any.
I beg to differ. Most guys are sluts who can't get any.
No most guys are awkward human being who have no clue how to utilize their hormones.
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On February 11 2012 08:24 squattincassanova wrote: Show nested quote + On February 11 2012 08:17 Kojak21 wrote: February 11 2012 08:13 squattincassanova wrote: "Trying to get 'lays' like others". You mean the average guy who gets 8 lays their entire lives? ya. most guys aren't sluts though I beg to differ. Most guys are sluts who can't get any. No most guys are awkward human being who have no clue how to utilize their hormones. | ||
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Rekrul
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especially in san diego, it's just an extremely low success rate, especially given how much you hype up the PUA approach, and the fact that you're a big ripped dude and girls love that i'm confused | ||
squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On February 11 2012 08:42 Rekrul wrote: cassanova u say u got laid 12 times last year, but considering all the time you've spent 'approaching sets,' studying, foruming, recording vids, posting them for comments and self analysis, online dating site stuff, that number is actually ridiculously low especially in san diego, it's just an extremely low success rate, especially given how much you hype up the PUA approach, and the fact that you're a big ripped dude and girls love that i'm confused Well....all I can say is this. A measure of success is not necessarily the end result after 1 year, but how far you come. I was the stereotypical Asian nerd who played Starcraft all day long. I had over 10,000 games of Starcraft under my belt. I also logged ridiculous hours in Team Fortress 2, Heroes of Newerth, Diablo 2, Counter Strike and a crap load of other games. In college, I studied engineering and worked 3 jobs. I never had the chance to socialize. My lay count before last year was 2. Now going from 2 lay count to 12 additional lay count in one year, I would consider that a MAJOR change. People say, well your lay to effort ratio is terrible. And I say who cares? If I didn't put in that effort, I would have gotten ZERO lays. And being buff doesn't mean shit if you don't have game because I was buff before I got into the game. Also, keep in mind, I live 70 miles from San Diego where I game, and this shit happens all the time where the girl is down but I can't get the logistics in my favor. This video happened last week and it happens ALLLLL the time. Was the girl down? 200% yes.... but did logistics cock block me? Absolutely. Did my skills increase over the year? X1000%. Getting the girl and adding the lay count doesn't mean much. I could fuck a buncha fatties but that doesn't make me happier or better at game, nor will it help me find my perfect 10. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On February 11 2012 09:04 Rekrul wrote: I see, that makes sense. What are your 2012 projections? At this point, I would want to focus on quality not quantity. Probably around 20 seems reasonable. I only go out twice a week. So thats roughly 1 out of 4 times I go out. | ||
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Xiphos
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On February 11 2012 09:25 mads wrote: Rekrul take me out when I'm in Seoul in 2 weeks. Bottles on me, cheachea. I don't have the time or energy to organize a meetup or anything like that. Well 'logistically' speaking, you are out of luck lol | ||
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Silentness
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On February 11 2012 08:13 squattincassanova wrote: "Trying to get 'lays' like others". You mean the average guy who gets 8 lays their entire lives? I think the average guy gets less than 8 lays (you mean 8 different women right?) their entire life. I know it's hard to swallow (ok that was a awful pun >,< ) but some guys actually have hobbies and goals in life to where chasing vagina isn't on the very top of their list of priorities. Yeah sometimes I think about what if I had banged 10+ different chicks in my lifetime, but now that I'm a married man I try to erase thoughts like that out of my mind. | ||
Deleted User 183001
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On February 11 2012 08:53 squattincassanova wrote: Show nested quote + On February 11 2012 08:42 Rekrul wrote: cassanova u say u got laid 12 times last year, but considering all the time you've spent 'approaching sets,' studying, foruming, recording vids, posting them for comments and self analysis, online dating site stuff, that number is actually ridiculously low especially in san diego, it's just an extremely low success rate, especially given how much you hype up the PUA approach, and the fact that you're a big ripped dude and girls love that i'm confused Well....all I can say is this. A measure of success is not necessarily the end result after 1 year, but how far you come. I was the stereotypical Asian nerd who played Starcraft all day long. I had over 10,000 games of Starcraft under my belt. I also logged ridiculous hours in Team Fortress 2, Heroes of Newerth, Diablo 2, Counter Strike and a crap load of other games. In college, I studied engineering and worked 3 jobs. I never had the chance to socialize. My lay count before last year was 2. Now going from 2 lay count to 12 additional lay count in one year, I would consider that a MAJOR change. People say, well your lay to effort ratio is terrible. And I say who cares? If I didn't put in that effort, I would have gotten ZERO lays. And being buff doesn't mean shit if you don't have game because I was buff before I got into the game. Also, keep in mind, I live 70 miles from San Diego where I game, and this shit happens all the time where the girl is down but I can't get the logistics in my favor. This video happened last week and it happens ALLLLL the time. Was the girl down? 200% yes.... but did logistics cock block me? Absolutely. Did my skills increase over the year? X1000%. Getting the girl and adding the lay count doesn't mean much. I could fuck a buncha fatties but that doesn't make me happier or better at game, nor will it help me find my perfect 10. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y24DgW8Uwc8 This logistics/convenience thing pisses me off. Logistics kill me bigtime, for everything. I'm going to rant and I don't care if I get flamed, because I need to let this off. Rather than going to an Ivy League or at least settling for the country's best public univ. in the States, I had to go live home, sometimes with a relative, because the family and financial situation is pretty shit and there was no way I could leave without literally things completely falling apart for my family and possibly losing the home. Why is this significant? Living on / near campus is the fulcrum of having a social life, and when you're an engineering student and working, it sucks, when kids with zero social skills (especially awkward asian people) and a personality worse than a 5-star douche can have a healthy social life just on the basis that they live and are with their peers 24/7. Meanwhile, I get complimented on lulz and other things and I have to try really, really hard to have an average social life that becomes really subpar during exam periods when I can't devote that time and energy. Meanwhile, herp-derps who can hate talking are having things to do all the time. I also know 0 people of my heritage/ethnicity, and that's been how it's been my whole life, so I don't have that "people naturally prefer me based off of same/similar ethnicity", and going to a school that is 50% oriental, who range from totally fobby and want nothing to do with anyone not their nationality to your overwhelming typical anti-social kid, it isn't easy either. And yes, this means a big deal to people. If I were say Chinese, my situation would probably be a lot better. Now what about the other 50%? It's both the same previous matter, and convenience. You see, people weigh their options. If they have pals that they see everyday, live right next to them, can do things on the spur of the moment, etc. why would they care about this somewhat cooler guy who's 10 miles away and whatnot? I'll be the first to admit that this is perfectly reasonable for them to act this way. So the fact I've been able to do things and make [flaky when I'm extremely busy with exam periods and/or work, not to mention I'm already overworked with just my school work, like cassanova was] friends is probably a success I haven't given enough pride to. How I've made girlfriends when the other options for them are so much more convenient (they can see them every single day all day and at any moment since they live 1,000 ft. apart and have total freedom), is beyond even my thoughtful mind and understanding. How I've made girlfriends out of reclusive Asian girls is even more absurd. Call me bragging, idgaf, but I'm just explaining my situation. I get shut down lots of times by potential friends, even by potential girlfriends, because of the inconvenience and logistics. It's happened so many times where everything is on a high peak and then they ask where I live and then it's like "oh...", like a huge buzzkill. It hurts when I realize I'd be in a really amazing social position had I lived on / near campus since starting, despite being a terribly busy engineering student. I got no doubt about that. Yes, logistics isn't just a cockblocker, it's a friend blocker too. If I were Asian (especially since most people in all engineerings here tend to be Asian and I find I tend to typically share interests with them too more than with other some other people) and living on campus, it's game over. Lights out. An Asian at my school who is even half-sociable and living with all the other students goes far. It's crazy. I'll be honest, even a guy like me who has a "Leave no man behind" mindset, would probably not care about the random person living way off campus with family when I have a bunch of pals who are completely convenient to me all the time, and I spend a lot of time with them. But you know what? (This is basically the TL;DR) I don't care that I am the 1% of people who aren't in the typical college living/social scenario. I don't lose my spirits, and I don't lose my hope. I don't care that herp-derps who are socially, and behaviorally, and physically repulsive can with 0 effort have a decent social life just on the basis on living with / near their peers. I don't care that I got rejected by the ARMY ROTC for being flat-footed and a bad past injury. I don't care the only thing going for me in my life is either my intelligence/intellect I've been working on my whole life, being great at vid games, alright social abilities, and sorta living middle class. And much more. Because what matters is that I keep my head up and keep on fighting. And it isn't about PU or whatever, it's about everything in life. Squattin goes 70 miles to do his favorite hobby, and maybe has had 120 girls put him down completely on the convenience issue, and yet he still sticks with it because he keeps his head up. Occasionally I get shit on by a course due to misgradings or just messing up, and I still try hard, and the other things, including making friends with people who basically have the mantra of "be convenient always and spend a lot of time with me or gtfo". It's about being in the lead of things. I'm sorry for talking about things unrelated to PU, but if PU relates to self-improvement, then I'm not too off-topic, because I'm all about improving myself. Anyways, peace. I'm out. Btw, squattin, a serious question: Why don't you go to clubs in Orange County or wherever you live? They're pretty good from what I've been told, and logistics becomes a non-issue. Your success rate gets 50% better, and you don't get trolled by people on this forum. Yeah sometimes I think about what if I had banged 10+ different chicks in my lifetime, but now that I'm a married man I try to erase thoughts like that out of my mind. It's easy to erase from your mind. I don't even think about it. When I decide to get married in 5+ years, I highly doubt it will trouble me. When I am in a relationship, it doesn't bother me, fwiw. | ||
Mjolnir
912 Posts
On February 11 2012 08:36 Xiphos wrote: Show nested quote + On February 11 2012 08:24 squattincassanova wrote: On February 11 2012 08:17 Kojak21 wrote: February 11 2012 08:13 squattincassanova wrote: "Trying to get 'lays' like others". You mean the average guy who gets 8 lays their entire lives? ya. most guys aren't sluts though I beg to differ. Most guys are sluts who can't get any. No most guys are awkward human being who have no clue how to utilize their hormones. Whaaaaaat? | ||
squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On February 11 2012 13:34 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: But you know what? (This is basically the TL;DR) I don't care that I am the 1% of people who aren't in the typical college living/social scenario. I don't lose my spirits, and I don't lose my hope. I don't care that herp-derps who are socially, and behaviorally, and physically repulsive can with 0 effort have a decent social life just on the basis on living with / near their peers. I don't care that I got rejected by the ARMY ROTC for being flat-footed and a bad past injury. I don't care the only thing going for me in my life is either my intelligence/intellect I've been working on my whole life, being great at vid games, alright social abilities, and sorta living middle class. And much more. Because what matters is that I keep my head up and keep on fighting. And it isn't about PU or whatever, it's about everything in life. Squattin goes 70 miles to do his favorite hobby, and maybe has had 120 girls put him down completely on the convenience issue, and yet he still sticks with it because he keeps his head up. Occasionally I get shit on by a course due to misgradings or just messing up, and I still try hard, and the other things, including making friends with people who basically have the mantra of "be convenient always and spend a lot of time with me or gtfo". It's about being in the lead of things. I'm sorry for talking about things unrelated to PU, but if PU relates to self-improvement, then I'm not too off-topic, because I'm all about improving myself. Anyways, peace. I'm out. Btw, squattin, a serious question: Why don't you go to clubs in Orange County or wherever you live? They're pretty good from what I've been told, and logistics becomes a non-issue. Your success rate gets 50% better, and you don't get trolled by people on this forum. Show nested quote + Yeah sometimes I think about what if I had banged 10+ different chicks in my lifetime, but now that I'm a married man I try to erase thoughts like that out of my mind. It's easy to erase from your mind. I don't even think about it. When I decide to get married in 5+ years, I highly doubt it will trouble me. When I am in a relationship, it doesn't bother me, fwiw. I feel you. You just gotta do what you gotta do. Also, dont forget, I started pickup legitly at age 28. Even if you waited till you are done with college, you would be 22 years old and you would still have a fucking 6 year head start. And this is why my logistics suck balls.... ![]() | ||
Greater Spire
Taiwan50 Posts
On February 11 2012 14:53 squattincassanova wrote: Show nested quote + On February 11 2012 13:34 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: But you know what? (This is basically the TL;DR) I don't care that I am the 1% of people who aren't in the typical college living/social scenario. I don't lose my spirits, and I don't lose my hope. I don't care that herp-derps who are socially, and behaviorally, and physically repulsive can with 0 effort have a decent social life just on the basis on living with / near their peers. I don't care that I got rejected by the ARMY ROTC for being flat-footed and a bad past injury. I don't care the only thing going for me in my life is either my intelligence/intellect I've been working on my whole life, being great at vid games, alright social abilities, and sorta living middle class. And much more. Because what matters is that I keep my head up and keep on fighting. And it isn't about PU or whatever, it's about everything in life. Squattin goes 70 miles to do his favorite hobby, and maybe has had 120 girls put him down completely on the convenience issue, and yet he still sticks with it because he keeps his head up. Occasionally I get shit on by a course due to misgradings or just messing up, and I still try hard, and the other things, including making friends with people who basically have the mantra of "be convenient always and spend a lot of time with me or gtfo". It's about being in the lead of things. I'm sorry for talking about things unrelated to PU, but if PU relates to self-improvement, then I'm not too off-topic, because I'm all about improving myself. Anyways, peace. I'm out. Btw, squattin, a serious question: Why don't you go to clubs in Orange County or wherever you live? They're pretty good from what I've been told, and logistics becomes a non-issue. Your success rate gets 50% better, and you don't get trolled by people on this forum. Yeah sometimes I think about what if I had banged 10+ different chicks in my lifetime, but now that I'm a married man I try to erase thoughts like that out of my mind. It's easy to erase from your mind. I don't even think about it. When I decide to get married in 5+ years, I highly doubt it will trouble me. When I am in a relationship, it doesn't bother me, fwiw. I feel you. You just gotta do what you gotta do. Also, dont forget, I started pickup legitly at age 28. Even if you waited till you are done with college, you would be 22 years old and you would still have a fucking 6 year head start. And this is why my logistics suck balls.... ![]() What's the population in your area? You can do pickup ANYWHERE. At the local library. At the grocery store. On the street right outside your door. Aren't you at university or something? | ||
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IDoNotAgree
Taiwan6 Posts
On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: I want to see a certain "wow, this feels awesome" in her eyes. So in short this (above) comes forth from this (below) On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: ....some kind of place in time and space where everything can be light-hearted, fun and easy-going. I mainly do day game (in Asia), so I've been trying not to be too much fun and confident, because girls will often conclude I'm some kind of player. Maybe I could try to create this feeling on the day 2, but my biggest problems is actually getting day 2's. On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: Show nested quote + I've been trying to make these topics more interesting; trying to communicate my values and talking in a way which isn't completely boring. However it's still miles away from "sparkles in her eyes". I think I know where you're coming from and I'll suggest to use a simple switch in your mindset: Don't try to make those topics more interesting, BE more interested in them. Be passionate about whatever you're talking about. Take stuff lightly and with a wink. Yeah that's what I try to do, but I haven't been able to keep it going for longer than 1 or 2 sentences. Your (Squatting's) example gave me a lot of ideas though. I just need to talk about the following in a silly way and involve her: -what my work means for other people in the long and short run -what my work means for me -anything she is likely to know related to my work -generalizations about my work or something related -simple explanation I'm not that interested in my own work. ;p I just realized I can easily shift the topic to what I want to do instead. I'll try your method of opening, maybe next time I do some night game. On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: The concept behind this is the answer to your question about how to make stuff more interesting. Make it emotional. If you talk about how you love a certain food you have to describe it in a way as if you're eating it right now and she wants some as well. If you describe a beautiful landscape (I usually describe one of my martial arts training camps we have during summer) you have to feel it as if you were there. You want to have her say/think "Wow, that sounds awesome I wish I'd have seen that, too!" Practice this stuff in your daily life. Storytelling. If you talk about awesome food, people should want to eat it. If you talk about awesome places, people should want to be there. If you talk about any experience, people should want to make that experience as well. Be passionate. ~ That's in a nutshell how you get someone to roll along. NLP/theory version: You state-break whatever she was doing/thinking/feeling, give her something intense but senseless to do/think/feel which you're experiencing as well (pacing). - Then you (emotionally) pick her up from there and lead her to the next experience. Repeat this process of pacing (let her talk too, doh!) and leading for 15-20 minutes and it will feel as if it was 1-2 hours. During those 15-20 minutes you are able to successfully screen her for stuff (give me an example you'd like to screen, then I can give a more concrete idea) and, if you still like her, can isolate and escalte further. Kino obv starts with the opening, but nothing "heavy" until after this phase. I've been trying to do this, but I can only do this somewhat successfully for a few topics. For this to be successful you need to be able to describe a certain experience which create these emotions, but I don't have a lot of emotional experiences. Of course you can easily exaggerate the emotions in any experience, but for some topics I have no experience at all. For example, some topic I have trouble with are: studying English, her job/study, where I live. Though as I'm writing this I'm getting some ideas, maybe I just haven't given it a serious attempt. How do you go about leading to the next experience? Let's say she brings up business management. You pace a story about how you worked in a business and everything was a chaos; Exaggeration a story that has really happened to you. Then what? Do you go into a story related to the business that has a different emotion to it? Or do you go into a different story not related to the business where everything was chaotic as well? Or something completely different? | ||
Greater Spire
Taiwan50 Posts
On February 11 2012 19:34 IDoNotAgree wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: I want to see a certain "wow, this feels awesome" in her eyes. So in short this (above) comes forth from this (below) Show nested quote + On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: ....some kind of place in time and space where everything can be light-hearted, fun and easy-going. I mainly do day game (in Asia), so I've been trying not to be too much fun and confident, because girls will often conclude I'm some kind of player. Maybe I could try to create this feeling on the day 2, but my biggest problems is actually getting day 2's. Show nested quote + On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: I've been trying to make these topics more interesting; trying to communicate my values and talking in a way which isn't completely boring. However it's still miles away from "sparkles in her eyes". I think I know where you're coming from and I'll suggest to use a simple switch in your mindset: Don't try to make those topics more interesting, BE more interested in them. Be passionate about whatever you're talking about. Take stuff lightly and with a wink. Yeah that's what I try to do, but I haven't been able to keep it going for longer than 1 or 2 sentences. Your (Squatting's) example gave me a lot of ideas though. I just need to talk about the following in a silly way and involve her: -what my work means for other people in the long and short run -what my work means for me -anything she is likely to know related to my work -generalizations about my work or something related -simple explanation I'm not that interested in my own work. ;p I just realized I can easily shift the topic to what I want to do instead. I'll try your method of opening, maybe next time I do some night game. Show nested quote + On February 10 2012 18:48 r.Evo wrote: The concept behind this is the answer to your question about how to make stuff more interesting. Make it emotional. If you talk about how you love a certain food you have to describe it in a way as if you're eating it right now and she wants some as well. If you describe a beautiful landscape (I usually describe one of my martial arts training camps we have during summer) you have to feel it as if you were there. You want to have her say/think "Wow, that sounds awesome I wish I'd have seen that, too!" Practice this stuff in your daily life. Storytelling. If you talk about awesome food, people should want to eat it. If you talk about awesome places, people should want to be there. If you talk about any experience, people should want to make that experience as well. Be passionate. ~ That's in a nutshell how you get someone to roll along. NLP/theory version: You state-break whatever she was doing/thinking/feeling, give her something intense but senseless to do/think/feel which you're experiencing as well (pacing). - Then you (emotionally) pick her up from there and lead her to the next experience. Repeat this process of pacing (let her talk too, doh!) and leading for 15-20 minutes and it will feel as if it was 1-2 hours. During those 15-20 minutes you are able to successfully screen her for stuff (give me an example you'd like to screen, then I can give a more concrete idea) and, if you still like her, can isolate and escalte further. Kino obv starts with the opening, but nothing "heavy" until after this phase. I've been trying to do this, but I can only do this somewhat successfully for a few topics. For this to be successful you need to be able to describe a certain experience which create these emotions, but I don't have a lot of emotional experiences. Of course you can easily exaggerate the emotions in any experience, but for some topics I have no experience at all. For example, some topic I have trouble with are: studying English, her job/study, where I live. Though as I'm writing this I'm getting some ideas, maybe I just haven't given it a serious attempt. How do you go about leading to the next experience? Let's say she brings up business management. You pace a story about how you worked in a business and everything was a chaos; Exaggeration a story that has really happened to you. Then what? Do you go into a story related to the business that has a different emotion to it? Or do you go into a different story not related to the business where everything was chaotic as well? Or something completely different? Are you in Taipei? Let's go sarging. | ||
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