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Flaccid
8850 Posts
On February 05 2012 21:08 squattincassanova wrote: [...] I suck dick [...] in [...] my bedroom lol. [...] I'll gladly demo with ya on Saturdays. Careful Rek - gotta read between the lines! Good luck! | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 09 2012 03:31 IntoTheWow wrote: Why do PUAs reffer it as "opening sets". Isnt' that just as an equivalent to "talking to girls"? What's the difference? It's only 3 more letters to write one phrase than another... "PUA lingo" is as abstract as it is because on one hand it allows the new found pickupper to get emotionally detached from the subject (e.g. you are not sleeping with a girl - you're laying her. You are not talking to girls - you approach them etc. pp.) and on the other hand it actually is sometims usefull when you have to communicate something in-set and don't know how to / don't have the balls to convey that information otherwise. But, yeah, prolly 90% of it is the emotional detachment. Personally I love ridiculing pickup lingo in sets, it's also one of my favorite tool to throw off some random "PUA" who takes a dump into my set. -"Oh gawd, the light, take it down" / "What?" / "YOUR BITCHSHIELD. TAKE IT DOWN OR I HAVE TO USE PHAZERS. - Hey, you, you're Scotty now. Can you give me an analysis of her shield capacity? How long can she withstand my awesomeness? Okay, so you (girl 1) are Scotty, you are obviously the Borg (bitching gurl) so what does that leave us with... you can be either Data, Riker or erh... Worf. CAREFULL WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE WILL ENABLE ME TO ANALYZE THE DEPTHS OF YOUR SOUL!" -"Oh, I see, you're the pickup artist here and are going to use evil AMOGERY to pull these lovely girls to the evil side of things. GUESS WHAT - IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE. Also I'm the one who has cookies. And... "milk". - Wow not that milk, stop thinking so dirty. Real. I'm not a sexobject like that dude. I HAVE FEELINGS SIS YO." Whenever a girl asks wtf I'm talking about I just explain the corresponding concept. "Why do you know that stuff?" - "Because I'm a shy and lonely guy who can't talk to girls. I need SPECIAL TACTICS to... well, to... -dirty smile, looking at her from top to bottom- - anyway, how do you like the weather?" @beg: If you're from southern germany by any chance give me a shout. If you're from farther away I usually get around in Europe/germany during summer at some point. Edit: Totally forgot to add. If you take any of the stuff I quoted above, with that type of stuff I'm opening 3-4 loops in each of those things. A lot of what I'm doing involves opening a fuckload of loops in a very short amount of time. That enables me to screen which of those loops seem interesting to her and persue into that direction, opens windows for some NLP-like trickery (because the brain can only process so much information at once) and it helps comfort/rapport ahead of time because she'll feel like as if we talked for hours and hours even if it was 30 minutes simply due to the sheer amount of different loops that I opened and kept open over time. If this sound like total gibberish to someone I'll rant a bit on loops and loopstructure, just shout. | ||
Chill
Calgary25988 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:25 r.Evo wrote: "PUA lingo" is as abstract as it is because on one hand it allows the new found pickupper to get emotionally detached from the subject (e.g. you are not sleeping with a girl - you're laying her. You are not talking to girls - you approach them etc. pp.) and on the other hand it actually is sometims usefull when you have to communicate something in-set and don't know how to / don't have the balls to convey that information otherwise. But, yeah, prolly 90% of it is the emotional detachment. Personally I love ridiculing pickup lingo in sets, it's also one of my favorite tool to throw off some random "PUA" who takes a dump into my set. -"Oh gawd, the light, take it down" / "What?" / "YOUR BITCHSHIELD. TAKE IT DOWN OR I HAVE TO USE PHAZERS. - Hey, you, you're Scotty now. Can you give me an analysis of her shield capacity? How long can she withstand my awesomeness? Okay, so you (girl 1) are Scotty, you are obviously the Borg (bitching gurl) so what does that leave us with... you can be either Data, Riker or erh... Worf. CAREFULL WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE WILL ENABLE ME TO ANALYZE THE DEPTHS OF YOUR SOUL!" -"Oh, I see, you're the pickup artist here and are going to use evil AMOGERY to pull these lovely girls to the evil side of things. GUESS WHAT - IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE. Also I'm the one who has cookies. And... "milk". - Wow not that milk, stop thinking so dirty. Real. I'm not a sexobject like that dude. I HAVE FEELINGS SIS YO." Whenever a girl asks wtf I'm talking about I just explain the corresponding concept. "Why do you know that stuff?" - "Because I'm a shy and lonely guy who can't talk to girls. I need SPECIAL TACTICS to... well, to... -dirty smile, looking at her from top to bottom- - anyway, how do you like the weather?" @beg: If you're from southern germany by any chance give me a shout. If you're from farther away I usually get around in Europe/germany during summer at some point. Was this English? | ||
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
Nope. It was pick up lingo haha | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
"im opening that set" "whos ur target" "lock in" "im trying to isolate / help me iso" "lets bounce them to Denny's" "im pulling, good night!" Nobody actually talks the way r.Evo described. You should know your wing well enough that saying a few words, he should know exactly what stage or phase you are in and what you are trying to do. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Actually more Star Trek / Pokémon / Star Wars than pickup lingo. fml. =( "Bitchshield" = a girl who get's approached a lot learns to quickly brush off guys approaching her. If she hurts your feelings in the process you can just call that "a bitchshield" & her "too bitchy", leave the set and feel good about yourself because after all, she was just a bitch. AMOG = Alpha male of the group. One of the most retarded pickup lingo abominations. Basicly just the dude who has the biggest balls in his respective group. "AMOGing" (MOAR ENGLISH ABOMINATION PLEASE) refers to the process of showing a certain group that you have bigger balls than some other dude. Usually ends up with a hilarious cockfight where one of them looks like a complete retard. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:38 squattincassanova wrote: Usually when I am winging, I use very short sentences. "im opening that set" "whos ur target" "lock in" "im trying to isolate / help me iso" "lets bounce them to Denny's" "im pulling, good night!" Nobody actually talks the way r.Evo described. You should know your wing well enough that saying a few words, he should know exactly what stage or phase you are in and what you are trying to do. Why make shit so complicated? "Let's get those girls." (to girls: ) "Okay, I like you." (to wing: ) "You want that one, right? Okay, now I'll try to just talk to this one and you try to lure that one away from her, k?" - "What are you guys talking about?" - "We're here to pick you up, doh." "WOW YOU LOOK LIKE A DOUCHECANNOE. STOP. - *grab wing, move him a few cm to where you want him* *poke girl into the direction you want her* - if she looks confused "I can't touch you, we don't even know each other, can you just... I'm incredibly OCD when it comes to these things, can you just move like half a meter over there? Ohmygawd, I love you. Thanks." "Hey, I really like this girl here. Can you tell the others that awsome joke you know so I can snag her away, get on a plane with her and flee to Acapulco?" "Oh, I know that AWESOME place where we can hang. (to wing: ) You remember Denny's?" "I g2g, good night!" Your sentences sound like a soldier on a mission, not like someone who's having fun going out and who met some cool girls in the process. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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Rabbet
Canada404 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:50 iNcontroL wrote: this is what it's like when PUA's collide ! ! ! I'm telling. | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:45 r.Evo wrote: Why make shit so complicated? "Let's get those girls." (to girls: ) "Okay, I like you." (to wing: ) "You want that one, right? Okay, now I'll try to just talk to this one and you try to lure that one away from her, k?" - "What are you guys talking about?" - "We're here to pick you up, doh." "WOW YOU LOOK LIKE A DOUCHECANNOE. STOP. - *grab wing, move him a few cm to where you want him* *poke girl into the direction you want her* - if she looks confused "I can't touch you, we don't even know each other, can you just... I'm incredibly OCD when it comes to these things, can you just move like half a meter over there? Ohmygawd, I love you. Thanks." "Hey, I really like this girl here. Can you tell the others that awsome joke you know so I can snag her away, get on a plane with her and flee to Acapulco?" "Oh, I know that AWESOME place where we can hang. (to wing: ) You remember Denny's?" "I g2g, good night!" Your sentences sound like a soldier on a mission, not like someone who's having fun going out and who met some cool girls in the process. I keep it dry for two reasons. 1. its short and to the point. Less stalling and more talking to the girls. 2. girls don't pick up on what we are talking about or what we are trying to do. When I say: "I'm pulling", my wing knows exactly what I am doing. When I say "I gtg". Its less detailed. Am I going but coming back? Am I going down stairs? Am I leaving the venue? Some times I'll tell my wing to "lock in" in the middle of a sentence. I certainly am not going to yell in front of the girls "Hey wing, change your body positioning into an optimal one, such that it looks like the girls are gaming you and that it increases the success of the set". The girl is going to be like wtf. If I just go to his ear and say "lock in", its much better. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On February 09 2012 08:07 squattincassanova wrote: I keep it dry for two reasons. 1. its short and to the point. Less stalling and more talking to the girls. 2. girls don't pick up on what we are talking about or what we are trying to do. When I say: "I'm pulling", my wing knows exactly what I am doing. When I say "I gtg". Its less detailed. Am I going but coming back? Am I going down stairs? Am I leaving the venue? Some times I'll tell my wing to "lock in" in the middle of a sentence. I certainly am not going to yell in front of the girls "Hey wing, change your body positioning into an optimal one, such that it looks like the girls are gaming you and that it increases the success of the set". The girl is going to be like wtf. If I just go to his ear and say "lock in", its much better. ok chillax virgin when you say "you're pulling" you mean you're pulling yourself alone at 12 in the shower after a night of unsuccessful clubbing fuck esports then we'll talk User was warned for this post | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32090 Posts
On February 09 2012 07:50 iNcontroL wrote: this is what it's like when PUA's collide ! ! ! *robust applause* | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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Kh0rne
Australia85 Posts
I like that this rescource exists for people having troubles with confidence / women etc etc what i dont like is the a lot of the general PUA community. People like squatting. So much ego So much objectifying & seeing "targets" instead of "people" Squatting you keep saying "its only practice, i'm getting better" what are you practicing for? what are you getting better for? I like your commitment to self improvement, but at this point surely you have improved your life, surely you are happier and more confident. If that wasnt the end goal of your PUA, what is? | ||
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Stenstyren
Sweden619 Posts
I was out clubbing with him a few nights ago and got sucked in to being his wingman. Was loads of fun because I knew what was happening and the girl was so clueless. Was also nice to see that she reacted in exactly the ways he said she would react. Unfortunately he did not get to take her home because he got into a bit of a fight with one of his friends which kind of spoiled the "set". Perhaps not something I would do. I have named myself an expert on breaking out of the friends zone and that is where I get most of my action. Or at least I go the friend zone route, make the girl believe that you are just a nice dude  EDIT: How to break out of the friends zone for the millions of girl bloggers: Drastically change something about yourself, make the girl see something she has not seen in you previously. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On February 09 2012 09:17 Stenstyren wrote: A friend of a friend is really into this and has gotten it to quite a high level (such that he can bring home a chick most nights). I was out clubbing with him a few nights ago and got sucked in to being his wingman. Was loads of fun because I knew what was happening and the girl was so clueless. Was also nice to see that she reacted in exactly the ways he said she would react. Unfortunately he did not get to take her home because he got into a bit of a fight with one of his friends which kind of spoiled the "set". Perhaps not something I would do. I have named myself an expert on breaking out of the friends zone and that is where I get most of my action. Or at least I go the friend zone route, make the girl believe that you are just a nice dude EDIT: How to break out of the friends zone for the millions of girl bloggers: Drastically change something about yourself, make the girl see something she has not seen in you previously. If you come across as a sexual and confident guy and treat her in a complete non-sexual way you can escalate whenever you want to pretty much. Basicly my goal with most girls nowadays (especially since I'm in a relationship) is to friendzone them AND give them "the speech" about liking them as a friend but not much more. That way I can integrate cool girls into my social circle and still have them available for casual fun. The advantage is that you pretty much have to deal with no shit-tests, no jealous boy-/girlfriends of her and are able to convey values way easier. It probably is a bit harder to pull off than most direct variants and you need to be a bit sneaky at times, but it doesn't even take that much longer unless you compare it to a balls out direct approach. Treat her as you'd treat your best buddy, isolate, escalate. That's how you seduce via "friendzone". Edit: I keep it dry for two reasons. 1. its short and to the point. Less stalling and more talking to the girls. 2. girls don't pick up on what we are talking about or what we are trying to do. When I say: "I'm pulling", my wing knows exactly what I am doing. When I say "I gtg". Its less detailed. Am I going but coming back? Am I going down stairs? Am I leaving the venue? Some times I'll tell my wing to "lock in" in the middle of a sentence. I certainly am not going to yell in front of the girls "Hey wing, change your body positioning into an optimal one, such that it looks like the girls are gaming you and that it increases the success of the set". The girl is going to be like wtf. If I just go to his ear and say "lock in", its much better. Why not? Picking up girls is fun. Getting picked up by a cool guy who knows how it works is fun for the girl. No reason not to play with the fact that you ARE there to take em home. There is NOTHING bad about the fact that the girl understands that you're being flirty with her. If you fucked up in the first 30s you won't get her to suddenly love you just because you are making cocktail conversation. I mean, even when I'm in an indirect mindset I want the girl to think "Is he hitting on me? Hm, I don't think so, but, wow, he's kinda cool. Maybe he is. Wtf is this guy on about?" ... Sure, you can machinegun talk the girl to death without purpose, but the goal of all this is to trigger EMOTIONS in her. Make her happy. Make her sad. Make her smile, make her laugh, make her feel with the stuff you're talking about. If you manage to give her the most awesome and fun emotional rollercoaster of her year during a 10-30 minute conversation she will cling to every single word you're talking. If you manage to get the girl to roll with whatever passion you're trying to get acrosss (that's the whole concept behind talking about nerdy things with a girl) she will enjoy your presence. She will want more. Will she get it? Not now, first she has to jump some hoops and invest some more. How much will she get? That's your personal moral obligation to tell her early enough before she invests too much. Since you're initating the process it's your damn job to take responsibility for (some of) her feelings. tl;dr: More fun, less military. | ||
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KoveN-
Australia503 Posts
It's all a covert operation! Lol at that post about how the "Modern PUA" is different to "Mystery Pickup", while right above him is an asian with the stupidest, tryhard hair I've ever seen haha. Wake up, the pickup community is here for your money, not your happiness. The longer they can get you chasing your own tails and buying their stuff, the better for them. Going out and approaching women at nightclubs and bars with the intent of sleeping with them is not a form of self-improvement. Vin Dicarlo (some of you might of heard of him) did a study on his target market, young men. He found that none of them wanted to change to get better with women. They wanted to stay the same physical shape, same body odour, same eating habits, same crappy life etc. but they also wanted to get laid. So he designed his products around NOT changing someone at all but instead giving them techniques and tricks (all the things you PUA's use today) so they can feel like they're making progress. Then once they get frustrated because they aren't getting results, they'll then buy his next groundbreaking product and go through the whole process again. So great  | ||
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On February 09 2012 10:17 KoveN- wrote: Right, because god forbid we let the girls know we are talking to them to sleep with them. It's all a covert operation! Lol at that post about how the "Modern PUA" is different to "Mystery Pickup", while right above him is an asian with the stupidest, tryhard hair I've ever seen haha. Wake up, the pickup community is here for your money, not your happiness. The longer they can get you chasing your own tails and buying their stuff, the better for them. Going out and approaching women at nightclubs and bars with the intent of sleeping with them is not a form of self-improvement. Vin Dicarlo (some of you might of heard of him) did a study on his target market, young men. He found that none of them wanted to change to get better with women. They wanted to stay the same physical shape, same body odour, same eating habits, same crappy life etc. but they also wanted to get laid. So he designed his products around NOT changing someone at all but instead giving them techniques and tricks (all the things you PUA's use today) so they can feel like they're making progress. Then once they get frustrated because they aren't getting results, they'll then buy his next groundbreaking product and go through the whole process again. So great We already know this. The average guy wont get good at anything. Pick up is no different. Diet books and exercise programs have been around for decades. Why doesn't everyone have a great physique? Same reason they aren't succeeding. Nobody wants real change... they want a quick fix pill. Thats because change is hard work and it takes getting out of the comfort zone. But if you are bad ass enough, and you want it enough, and you do it in a smart way, you will change. This is what I looked like before pickup, and this is what I look like after. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kYcRW.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vmSRP.jpg) | ||
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TheKwas
Iceland372 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On February 09 2012 10:55 TheKwas wrote: This is kinda unrelated and probably was mentioned somewhere in the depths of this thread, but what's your workout regiment like Squat? 80% of my workout consists of Squat Bench Deadlift Cleans Pullups Military Press http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Rippetoe-Lon-Kilgore-Starting/dp/B005PITS1E/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1328752633&sr=1-2 | ||
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